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Apr 8 2019, 08:18
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 19-February 16

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QUOTE(morineko @ Apr 8 2019, 07:43)  was there a tradeable PHOH? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) no, don't worry. QUOTE(Saioux @ Apr 8 2019, 07:55)  So I had my first go at the imperil dark mage and I must say I'm quite satisfied (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) It's got 10% lower magic/arcane score than my elec set and still managed to cut down on the DwD turn by 200 (2450->2250). On normal arenas not much difference I guess. Its proficiency is crap so I guess the dark day effect was quite significant, but once I get my equipments more optimized (4+1 robe prof, 5 phase for SG arenas, soulfuse everything) it'd be much better (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Another thing is, I think I can finally try IW/Grindfest since I've got a willow p5s4 and charged equipments now (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Hence, I'd really appreciate your tips on which scrolls to use when for IW and GF. I might try out IWBFEST first to see how it rolls before going for PFFEST. I guess I could just salvage my elec set now :3   Dark imperil PFFEST, yeah that should work. Infusion of darkness + all scrolls from around round 400-500.
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Apr 8 2019, 08:24
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xesxesgnik
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,228
Joined: 28-April 14

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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Apr 8 2019, 02:18)  no, don't worry. Dark imperil PFFEST, yeah that should work. Infusion of darkness + all scrolls from around round 400-500.
Dang it would be quite costly huh. I guess absorption as well? Does the same apply for IW as well? Or only the haste, protection, shadows? How many scrolls are spent per fest roughly? This post has been edited by Saioux: Apr 8 2019, 08:31
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Apr 8 2019, 08:27
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KitsuneAbby
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 12-July 14

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Don't take PFFEST lightly.
Do you seriously think that all Charged is enough to attempt PFFEST? Given your DwD results, I bet you won't stand 200 rounds, maybe not even 100. I mean, 2 spirit potions and 1 spirit elixir! You shouldn't even need either of those in any arena.
Do tell me that you did listen to me when I told you to have a rock-solid 1H set to clear difficult challenges (IW100/PFFEST).
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Apr 8 2019, 08:37
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xesxesgnik
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 28-April 14

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I might try out IW soon, but I'll probably not bother with pffest until I get my gears more optimized. I borrowed the cap from a friend until I get my hands on a phase cap, and robe and shoes are also for temporary use until I build up my prof so I can swap them out with prof robe and phases shoes, for a 0.8 prof factor 4+1 set. So that's Jug15 and one more phase piece and one more charged/radiant to go.
As for the 1H set, I've one decent enough to clear 85 IW but with consumables, idk about pffest tho, I'll never try pffest with my 1h set idk about that, but I'm satisfied with the rate at which I'm building styles etc. so there's that.
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Apr 8 2019, 08:59
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KitsuneAbby
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Do try PFFEST as 1H. Then you will understand what exactly the following chart means: DwD -> Easy Regular arena -> Normal IW100 -> Lunatic PFFEST -> Phantasm
To be able to clear IW100 as mage, it already requires an enormous amount of credits worth of forging. Full forged is pretty much the norm for PFFEST.
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Apr 8 2019, 09:42
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 19-February 16

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I am a bit ashamed to admit that my Very Expensive set stll has troubke reaching round 800. Usually I need vase / gum around 600-700 . I can do without, but hihg chance of death. And yes, almost fully forged. IW100 is piece of cake though
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Apr 8 2019, 10:05
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xesxesgnik
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Isn't your Very Expensive set non-imperil? So I guess you have to be much much stronger than imperil elemental mage to be able to clear pffest ugh. Maybe imperil dark won't be viable for pffest after all due to its slower speed... qr12345 seems to clear pffest in a breeze with his arctic willow set. Well I expected dark imperil to fall behind wind/elec willow, but if it's less viable than cold/fire willow than it just makes me feel very sad (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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Apr 8 2019, 10:24
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qr12345
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Apr 8 2019, 08:05)  Isn't your Very Expensive set non-imperil? So I guess you have to be much much stronger than imperil elemental mage to be able to clear pffest ugh. Maybe imperil dark won't be viable for pffest after all due to its slower speed... qr12345 seems to clear pffest in a breeze with his arctic willow set. Well I expected dark imperil to fall behind wind/elec willow, but if it's less viable than cold/fire willow than it just makes me feel very sad (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) With my cold mage set I can clear PFFEST quite stably (0 vase/gum, <5 scroll of life&spirit elixir). But I still can die if I am making mistake. And it can happen in a blink. In latter rounds I can drop 300+spirit in short span and I am getting vital alert/sparked quite frequently. Major cause of death is casting imperil right after get sparked. My set is relatively cheap but still much expensive compared to 1H. More correctly mage itself is expensive. Base equipment cost <20m. Forge cost is 120~150m. Also I have DD5 which is 30k haths. So I pay around 250m in total. This post has been edited by qr12345: Apr 8 2019, 10:25
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Apr 8 2019, 10:32
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xesxesgnik
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Yea, I def got some forging to do lol. I'll find out for myself sooner or later eventually, but I just hope imperil dark is not viable for pffest due to dark spells having slower speed compared to elemental (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) It seems like whenever I'll be able to pull off pffest is quite distant a future tho. First my evade chance is just way too low lol. It's at 50% and I think you guys have it at least around 60% right? I might try out iwbth fest once I've got enough prof factor and 4+1. btw, putting aside pffest, what'd you say is a sweetspot forge level, at least for major attributes (edb, evade, pab)? Right now I've got those to 10 and rest at 5 lol.
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Apr 8 2019, 10:39
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-vincento-
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Apr 8 2019, 16:32)  -snip
My dark set which was forged to on average 27 can clear PFDfest. Dark is faster than wind/elec in terms of turns. But the problem is low casting speed makes you heal more frequently during late GF. In the end, it will somehow slow down your t/s a bit. If you forged to maximum, I suppose this wouldn't be a shortcoming anymore. As for DJ's experience on non-imperil, that's why I recommended imperil dark instead of non-imperil dark.
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Apr 8 2019, 10:49
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xesxesgnik
Group: Gold Star Club
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That's quite nice to hear lol. Yea I'm going towards a 4+1 imperil dark right now. I might get a phase robe later for SG but anyways. Thanks for sharing (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I feel a bit better about it now lol. What's your DD btw? Also, when you were forging, did you forge everything at the same time, or the more important ones first? I've got bindings for edb evade and pabs. but for other things I don't have bindings and plus that'd just too much HGC lol.
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Apr 8 2019, 10:59
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-vincento-
Group: Gold Star Club
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DD1 I forged EDB, evade and Agi as much as possible. Rest stop at 20~25.
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Apr 8 2019, 11:21
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KitsuneAbby
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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You guys are talking so casually about building a mage set. Bounties are really ultra well paid.
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Apr 8 2019, 11:34
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yami_zetsu
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Apr 8 2019, 04:21)  Bounties are really ultra well paid.
but they require either money, photoshop skills or knowing written japanese, easy
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Apr 8 2019, 11:37
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xesxesgnik
Group: Gold Star Club
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Is DD V like a hard limit for most ppl, I guess? After that the payoff is just so horrendously low - probably comparable to spending one phazon for pushing your mdb one level over lv50 on your radiant (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) This post has been edited by Saioux: Apr 8 2019, 11:50
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Apr 8 2019, 15:27
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mouisaac
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 31-March 18

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QUOTE(yami_zetsu @ Apr 8 2019, 01:05)  if it were a PHOH it would be 3m+ tickets by now
When I aim for the grand prize, I got GLT. When I aim for GLT, I got candies. When I aim for candies, I got tokens. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) I had a feeling of getting something but I still fail to get the things I want (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Anyway, 1 Token cost 11.4k :S Thanks to it, I reached exactly 100 monster slots :3 This post has been edited by mouisaac: Apr 8 2019, 16:15
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Apr 8 2019, 15:55
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KitsuneAbby
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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I did waste 20k tickets, but at least I won't hate myself for soulfusing my cap some time ago. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Apr 8 2019, 16:41
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KamuiSeph
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 29-August 08

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QUOTE(qr12345 @ Apr 8 2019, 17:24)  Major cause of death is casting imperil right after get sparked.
Ooooh boy I have died from that exclusively. Literally the only way I die with mage (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Apr 8 2019, 16:49
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KamuiSeph
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 29-August 08

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QUOTE(decondelite @ Apr 8 2019, 18:21)  You guys are talking so casually about building a mage set. Bounties are really ultra well paid.
Unfortunately right now there's no good standard bounties ._. Out of the top 10: 1. Waaay too few credits. Considering shipping/payment option costs and scanning costs 220mil is like the cheapest I would start that bounty at. 2. Same as 1. Too many pages too many books ~200mil minimum 3. Unavailable for purchase anywhere you look (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) 4. Don't even understand what the heck this guy wants (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) 5. Same as 3. 6. Same as 3. 7. Same as 3. 8. Same as 3. 9. Too low of a profit margin. Too many pages, book only available new not used. Should be ~45mil minimum. 10. Same as 3. Yeah.... If you go below 10th spot it's the same story. Either it's unavailable in any of the stores they list (or any others I check) Either the profit margin is way too low (would be cheaper to sell a gold star) Or the request is not a doujin purchase but some weird something. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) I want to do more bounties
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Apr 8 2019, 17:01
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qr12345
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Apr 8 2019, 14:41)  Ooooh boy I have died from that exclusively. Literally the only way I die with mage (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I have tried these. Trying to cheap out spirit elixirs at 40~50% SP level -> taking skill criticals -> SP drained by SS -> not enough SP for SoL -> death Hit to exact Hp1 -> SoL not triggering -> death This post has been edited by qr12345: Apr 8 2019, 17:02
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