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Apr 6 2019, 17:17
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yami_zetsu
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Apr 6 2019, 10:13)  some people do listen to decondelite apparently
poor fools wont upgrade adept learner as well
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Apr 6 2019, 17:29
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Fap.Fap
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,551
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QUOTE(yami_zetsu @ Apr 6 2019, 17:17)  poor fools wont upgrade adept learner as well
damn Im a fool
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Apr 6 2019, 17:40
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KitsuneAbby
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(yami_zetsu @ Apr 6 2019, 15:17)  poor fools wont upgrade adept learner as well
I feel like I'm doing something wrong. (IMG:[ i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/A4NtF5h.png)
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Apr 6 2019, 17:48
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Basara Nekki
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 13-September 12

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QUOTE(decondelite @ Apr 6 2019, 12:16)  If an ethereal is worth 40M, how much is my Arctic worth? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) I also saw someone in the WTB who wants to purchase one aswell. I bought my Peerless Shocking Shortsword of Slaughter for only 700k. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) I think only Hallowed and Demonic is that they can be sold for a slightly higher value, but far from the value of an Ethereal ("prefix overprice" (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) ). But the saddest thing in the end is that this will be just another good piece of equipment that will rustle in a mage's inventory. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) EDIT: With the difference of 39.3m, how many Featherwieght Shards can I buy? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) This post has been edited by Basara Nekki: Apr 6 2019, 18:16
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Apr 7 2019, 02:45
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Fudo Masamune
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some things never change.... 
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Apr 7 2019, 02:51
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KamuiSeph
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Apr 7 2019, 09:45)  some things never change....  Clearly the answer is ∞. What are you, blind? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) Sorry, my bad, The answer is clearly a̷͕̦̬͙͙͚͎̹̤͎̪̓̃̂͗́̔̎̑̀ͅl͑͂ͥ̀҉̛͕̹̙̠͉̜̬̜͉͓̮͈̼l̶̢̜͔̖̞ͦ͆̾̐̅̄́̉͑͘͡ ̌ͫ̒ͤ̐̋̂͐͛͐̂ͩͮͨ̍҉̴̷̤̹͈̲̪̭̻̯̤̤͍̝̤̖͕̬̖͎͟ͅt̢̐͊ͯ̅̌̏̃̈́̉͏̶̱̠͖̪̗̗͖̪̝͓̙̩͉́͞h̏ͪͬͫͬͭͩ̿̓ ̸̢̧̯͔̻̭̣̥̘̤͖̭̥͕͉̣̘̘͍͎̔͐͐̿̿̉̎̽ͪ͝e̴͑̋͌̐̑̉̇̈ͨͦͭ̆ͣͨ̉͆̊́̚̚҉͓̹̰̺̮̼̭͇͈ ̴̎ͪ̚҉̧͇͉͇̺͚p̷̧̡̲̠̗̮̼͚̳̜̺̳̻̞̳̠̼̳̥͂̂ͩͣ̿o̴̧̠̯̖ͧ̽͊̂̀̇͂ͨͫ͑͑ͩͮͦ̏̐̈̌̕n̉̓ͤ̋́͋ͧ̑̅̐̌ͤ͒ ̵̵̙͍̞͓͓͇̙̻̭̥͟͡ͅͅͅi̛̳̠̝̩̜̳̪͍̙̤̮̟̞̙̳͎̟͎̎̍ͨ͌͢ḛ̷̢̤̠͉͂ͤ͌̅ͯ̋͂̄̈́͛ͮ̇̄̋̓͒͘͡ͅs̵̵ͪ͗ͨ̾́ ̨͏̤̮̮͖̫̪̯̬̟ This post has been edited by KamuiSeph: Apr 7 2019, 02:52
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Apr 7 2019, 03:27
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feathered
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Apr 6 2019, 17:11)  Daaamn, how much chapter that credit alone could translate??
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Apr 7 2019, 03:45
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magiclamp
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Joined: 27-February 10

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QUOTE(decondelite @ Apr 6 2019, 10:40)  I feel like I'm doing something wrong. (IMG:[ i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/A4NtF5h.png) I think adept learner actually would be considerably more efficient from a proficiency perspective at higher levels, as the dawn exp will start to account for a larger portion of overall exp, with lower proficiency/exp compared to battle exp, so having adept learner will increase the portion of battle exp which in turn will help proficiency. (I think)
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Apr 7 2019, 10:13
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KitsuneAbby
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 7,568
Joined: 12-July 14

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QUOTE(magiclamp @ Apr 7 2019, 01:45)  I think adept learner actually would be considerably more efficient from a proficiency perspective at higher levels, as the dawn exp will start to account for a larger portion of overall exp, with lower proficiency/exp compared to battle exp, so having adept learner will increase the portion of battle exp which in turn will help proficiency. (I think)
The goal here is not to get higher raw proficiency, but higher proficiency factors (prof level/player level). Higher proficiency factors makes one have higher stats for the same player level, thus the game slightly easier, mostly thanks to abilities. Keep in mind that there do are players who can't afford leveling up too fast, mostly because of the equipment upgrade costs that are needed to compensate the higher monster levels. And that's my case. Yes, I can be criticized for the amount of credits invested in assimilator for how effective it actually is (it pains me to see how little the difference is with those who have 10/25), but that much is still lower than the costs of forging. Regarding my own objectives, Adept Learner is perfectly useless and counter-productive. It may raise the speed at which one gains proficiency, but it raises the speed at which one XPs just as much. In the end, the prof factor remains unaffected. For me, it's a big, huge, fat, no-no.
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Apr 7 2019, 10:21
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Noni
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Apr 7 2019, 10:13)  The goal here is not to get higher raw proficiency, but higher proficiency factors (prof level/player level). Higher proficiency factors makes one have higher stats for the same player level, thus the game slightly easier, mostly thanks to abilities. Keep in mind that there do are players who can't afford leveling up too fast, mostly because of the equipment upgrade costs that are needed to compensate the higher monster levels. And that's my case. Yes, I can be criticized for the amount of credits invested in assimilator for how effective it actually is (it pains me to see how little the difference is with those who have 10/25), but that much is still lower than the costs of forging.
Regarding my own objectives, Adept Learner is perfectly useless and counter-productive. It may raise the speed at which one gains proficiency, but it raises the speed at which one XPs just as much. In the end, the prof factor remains unaffected. For me, it's a big, huge, fat, no-no.
That's a sensible way to look at it. Me, I rushed to lv 500. And by then, the exp bonus became really, really helpful. Because now level is capped, and prof is still growing. So I need all the exp I can get. If you look at it that way, rushing to 500 is also sensible because it works as well. What did I lose by rushing? Mayby acouple of legendaries that didn't sell as well as they would at lower level? Meh. Real good gear sells anyway. And what did I gain? Awesomeness! (but I admit, that's rather subjective)
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Apr 7 2019, 10:40
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magiclamp
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 802
Joined: 27-February 10

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QUOTE(decondelite @ Apr 7 2019, 03:13)  The goal here is not to get higher raw proficiency, but higher proficiency factors (prof level/player level). Higher proficiency factors makes one have higher stats for the same player level, thus the game slightly easier, mostly thanks to abilities. Keep in mind that there do are players who can't afford leveling up too fast, mostly because of the equipment upgrade costs that are needed to compensate the higher monster levels. And that's my case. Yes, I can be criticized for the amount of credits invested in assimilator for how effective it actually is (it pains me to see how little the difference is with those who have 10/25), but that much is still lower than the costs of forging.
Regarding my own objectives, Adept Learner is perfectly useless and counter-productive. It may raise the speed at which one gains proficiency, but it raises the speed at which one XPs just as much. In the end, the prof factor remains unaffected. For me, it's a big, huge, fat, no-no.
I agree, but what I meant was that since the dawn event gives exp without the equivalent proficiency (compared to battles) and adept learner increases battle exp (along with proficiencies) but does not affect dawn of a new day, adept learner actually will improve proficiency factor as well.
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Apr 7 2019, 10:49
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KitsuneAbby
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Well, if you do can go to level 500, yes that's a thing to do. At some point I will do that myself too. Where I am right now, it's not a matter of equipments drops anymore: the majority that is meh at Lvl500 is also meh at Lvl420. I'm already at the point where every Magnificent is only worth bazaar/HGC, low ADB Legendary Power is bazaar aswell, and all those fancy things.
It's really all about being unable to acquire the goods that I'd need to proceed to higher levels. Heck even with 97 monsters the amount of rares+bindings I get is a joke, and none of them is strong enough to bring in a decent amount of High-Grade.
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Apr 8 2019, 07:05
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yami_zetsu
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Apr 7 2019, 23:57)  While y'all aiming for the cap, may I get the candies? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) if it were a PHOH it would be 3m+ tickets by now
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Apr 8 2019, 07:55
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xesxesgnik
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So I had my first go at the imperil dark mage and I must say I'm quite satisfied (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) It's got 10% lower magic/arcane score than my elec set and still managed to cut down on the DwD turn by 200 (2450->2250). On normal arenas not much difference I guess. Its proficiency is crap so I guess the dark day effect was quite significant, but once I get my equipments more optimized (4+1 robe prof, 5 phase for SG arenas, soulfuse everything) it'd be much better (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Another thing is, I think I can finally try IW/Grindfest since I've got a willow p5s4 and charged equipments now (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Hence, I'd really appreciate your tips on which scrolls to use when for IW and GF. I might try out IWBFEST first to see how it rolls before going for PFFEST. I guess I could just salvage my elec set now :3  This post has been edited by Saioux: Apr 8 2019, 07:56
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Apr 8 2019, 08:18
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(morineko @ Apr 8 2019, 07:43)  was there a tradeable PHOH? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) no, don't worry. QUOTE(Saioux @ Apr 8 2019, 07:55)  So I had my first go at the imperil dark mage and I must say I'm quite satisfied (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) It's got 10% lower magic/arcane score than my elec set and still managed to cut down on the DwD turn by 200 (2450->2250). On normal arenas not much difference I guess. Its proficiency is crap so I guess the dark day effect was quite significant, but once I get my equipments more optimized (4+1 robe prof, 5 phase for SG arenas, soulfuse everything) it'd be much better (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Another thing is, I think I can finally try IW/Grindfest since I've got a willow p5s4 and charged equipments now (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Hence, I'd really appreciate your tips on which scrolls to use when for IW and GF. I might try out IWBFEST first to see how it rolls before going for PFFEST. I guess I could just salvage my elec set now :3   Dark imperil PFFEST, yeah that should work. Infusion of darkness + all scrolls from around round 400-500.
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Apr 8 2019, 08:24
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xesxesgnik
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Apr 8 2019, 02:18)  no, don't worry. Dark imperil PFFEST, yeah that should work. Infusion of darkness + all scrolls from around round 400-500.
Dang it would be quite costly huh. I guess absorption as well? Does the same apply for IW as well? Or only the haste, protection, shadows? How many scrolls are spent per fest roughly? This post has been edited by Saioux: Apr 8 2019, 08:31
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Apr 8 2019, 08:27
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KitsuneAbby
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Don't take PFFEST lightly.
Do you seriously think that all Charged is enough to attempt PFFEST? Given your DwD results, I bet you won't stand 200 rounds, maybe not even 100. I mean, 2 spirit potions and 1 spirit elixir! You shouldn't even need either of those in any arena.
Do tell me that you did listen to me when I told you to have a rock-solid 1H set to clear difficult challenges (IW100/PFFEST).
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Apr 8 2019, 08:37
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xesxesgnik
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I might try out IW soon, but I'll probably not bother with pffest until I get my gears more optimized. I borrowed the cap from a friend until I get my hands on a phase cap, and robe and shoes are also for temporary use until I build up my prof so I can swap them out with prof robe and phases shoes, for a 0.8 prof factor 4+1 set. So that's Jug15 and one more phase piece and one more charged/radiant to go.
As for the 1H set, I've one decent enough to clear 85 IW but with consumables, idk about pffest tho, I'll never try pffest with my 1h set idk about that, but I'm satisfied with the rate at which I'm building styles etc. so there's that.
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