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May 15 2011, 13:05
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Namespoofer
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QUOTE(vean @ May 15 2011, 12:03)  Shocked. Our best old EDB phase will lower than worst NEW EDB phase now?!
I don't know what to say...
"I quit this game, goodbye henteiverse" seems good.
LOL. Wanna gimme your stuff then? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Yeah, its much harder for mages now.... I don't know if Tenb is trying to cause mass inflation intentionally or not, that or make people quit. Maybe infusions will rise in demand?
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May 15 2011, 13:45
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buktore
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QUOTE(vean @ May 15 2011, 17:03)  I don't know what to say...
"I quit this game, goodbye henteiverse" seems good.
That's what you said last time... (IMG:[ bbs.pramool.com] http://bbs.pramool.com/webboard/pic/103.gif) This post has been edited by buktore: May 15 2011, 13:52
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May 15 2011, 15:47
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Ichy
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QUOTE(sushi0 @ May 15 2011, 12:48)  I'm sorry for pushing you up to 1.6 mil. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) I just put about 10000 Crystals in my Elemental. I hope the Magic Attack was worth it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) /edit: Snowflake and the moogles are taking an early dip in the still-warming ocean. Check back later. again This post has been edited by Ichy: May 15 2011, 16:06
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May 15 2011, 16:34
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Conquest101
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El Oh El.
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May 15 2011, 18:05
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20200
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May 15 2011, 18:13
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20200
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Double posting because this is my thread and I can fucking do what I want: I think Tenboro straight fucked up the term pre-nerf in regards to equipment. Old evasion phase is still better than what will ever drop now, but this patch brought a massive boost to a number of pieces of gear (largely offsetting the massive magic nerf, but that's besides the point when it comes to equipment). This brings up the question: are we still going to call it pre-nerf gear? Because really, it is now pre-nerf pre-buff gear...
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May 15 2011, 18:17
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Death Grunty
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Gen1 gear? (don't know about that.) But at least it's gen1 phase right?
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May 15 2011, 18:19
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Sushilicious
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ May 15 2011, 11:13)  I think Tenboro straight fucked up the term pre-nerf in regards to equipment. Old evasion phase is still better than what will ever drop now, but this patch brought a massive boost to a number of pieces of gear (largely offsetting the massive magic nerf, but that's besides the point when it comes to equipment).
Sounds like a complaint. Complaints go here. Back on topic: QUOTE(Boggyb @ May 15 2011, 11:13)  This brings up the question: are we still going to call it pre-nerf gear? Because really, it is now pre-nerf pre-buff gear...
Sure, why not. Now we just have a separate category of post-nerf gear that aren't actually nerfs.
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May 15 2011, 18:20
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Ichy
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How about old shit?
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May 15 2011, 18:23
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20200
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QUOTE(Death Grunty @ May 15 2011, 09:17)  Gen1 gear? (don't know about that.) But at least it's gen1 phase right?
This might have potential. Generation 1 gear- everything up to the nerf (which patch was the nerf? I don't want to look at the old patch notes) Generation 2 gear- post-nerf, pre-5.3 gear Generation 3 gear- post-5.3 gear
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May 15 2011, 18:26
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varst
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ May 16 2011, 00:23)  Generation 1 gear- everything up to the nerf (which patch was the nerf? I don't want to look at the old patch notes)
That's 0.4.0
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May 15 2011, 18:39
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20200
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Oops.
This post has been edited by Boggyb: May 15 2011, 18:39
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May 15 2011, 18:50
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coredumperror
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What stats on pre-nerf gear are still better than post 0.5.3 gear? That EDB buff sounds pretty stellar.
I'm really glad that I had no EDB gear... I have no reason to complain that the worst new gear is better than the best old gear!
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May 15 2011, 19:07
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Death Grunty
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QUOTE(coredumperror @ May 15 2011, 10:50)  What stats on pre-nerf gear are still better than post 0.5.3 gear? That EDB buff sounds pretty stellar.
I'm really glad that I had no EDB gear... I have no reason to complain that the worst new gear is better than the best old gear!
Evade is most likely still better on pre-nerf phase. (The global scaling factor was changed.) As for everything else.. it was a stupid way to upgrade the gear. He could've changed the scaling factor on edb too, but instead he increased the possible base. Which makes every other piece up to this point worthless. (Same for mitigation.) I really don't get why he nerfed retroactively by changing the scaling factor, but buffed everything else by increasing max base. I doubt I can ever trust hv equipment again. By this I mean, before I considered equipment to be a good and necessary investment. But now it's pray it's still any good in a few month' time. That said there's hope. So let's wait and see how it goes. QUOTE(Tenboro @ May 15 2011, 04:29)  QUOTE(Ichy @ May 15 2011, 04:22)  An (expensive) feature to upgrade old phase would be great (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Well, you might want to hang on to it. I have some, uhm.. "tentative" plans for 0.6.
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May 15 2011, 19:56
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Slobber
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Nevermind, wrong place to ask (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) This post has been edited by dcherry: May 16 2011, 11:01
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May 15 2011, 20:06
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Tenboro

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QUOTE(Death Grunty @ May 15 2011, 19:07)  He could've changed the scaling factor on edb too, but instead he increased the possible base. I could, but increasing the scaling factor would also have increased the natural EDB on staffs, and I didn't want to do that. "Investing" in equipment isn't really any different from any other "MMO".
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May 15 2011, 20:10
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marcho
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I've never played WoW, but I've heard (lol Drunk Tank podcasts) that each time a major patch is released pretty much every piece of equipment that people spent extraordinary amounts of time and effort into obtaining becomes useless.
From personal experience, I know that when Diablo II went to LoD and then as new runewords were introduced, previously valuable equipment turned to shit.
Such is life.
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May 15 2011, 20:11
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Death Grunty
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ May 15 2011, 12:06)  I could, but increasing the scaling factor would also have increased the natural EDB on staffs, and I didn't want to do that. "Investing" in equipment isn't really any different from any other "MMO".
True. But it seems way more whimsical here. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Though my mmo experience is confined to 2 games that should not be named. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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May 15 2011, 20:11
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Slobber
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QUOTE(marcho @ May 15 2011, 12:10)  I've never played WoW, but I've heard (lol Drunk Tank podcasts) that each time a major patch is released pretty much every piece of equipment that people spent extraordinary amounts of time and effort into obtaining becomes useless.
From personal experience, I know that when Diablo II went to LoD and then as new runewords were introduced, previously valuable equipment turned to shit. Such is life.
Lies! I still play Diablo II. The old gear is worth a lot still. Some way more than the new stuff (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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May 15 2011, 20:14
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Death Grunty
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ May 15 2011, 12:06)  I could, but increasing the scaling factor would also have increased the natural EDB on staffs, and I didn't want to do that. "Investing" in equipment isn't really any different from any other "MMO".
Oh but wouldn't nerfing the scaling for MDM while buffing the scaling for edb solve this?
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