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post Jan 21 2019, 21:20
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damn, i forgot to sell stuffers some days ago when they were worth 150k...
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post Jan 21 2019, 21:34
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QUOTE(Xythy @ Jan 20 2019, 18:07) *

I don't have enough credits to buy the perk in one go, so I'm buying hath in chunks of 1000. But I'm having problems with my last attemp... there are only tumbleweeds in my wtb and zero hath sellers. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)
I also only have DDI. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Your price is too low, anything above 4060 might catch more attention. Hath was going for 4080 the other day in the Bid/Buyers column in the exchange and I sold some. No one really thinks about the fee, we just go for what we see in front of us and if it makes us salivate then we quickly go for it. I need credits, too, but I only have my hath to rely on and saving it up takes time so I want my money's worth.

I would sell to buyers in WTB but only if they stop being cheap and make some attractive offers. But everything is bad these days, the H-Verse is collapsing upon itself.
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post Jan 21 2019, 22:05
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QUOTE(Honeycat @ Jan 21 2019, 14:34) *

Your price is too low, anything above 4060 might catch more attention. Hath was going for 4080 the other day in the Bid/Buyers column in the exchange and I sold some. No one really thinks about the fee, we just go for what we see in front of us and if it makes us salivate then we quickly go for it. I need credits, too, but I only have my hath to rely on and saving it up takes time so I want my money's worth.

I would sell to buyers in WTB but only if they stop being cheap and make some attractive offers. But everything is bad these days, the H-Verse is collapsing upon itself.

You're taking fewer credits for your hath because the initial number you see is bigger? Selling direct at 4045 nets you about the same credits as selling at the hath exchange at 4085 or 4086. Is there a simple way to phrase this in the topic description that would help?
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post Jan 21 2019, 22:15
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QUOTE(jantch @ Jan 21 2019, 21:05) *

Is there a simple way to phrase this in the topic description that would help?

You mean in a way people would actually sell hath for 4040 in WTB instead for 4060 in the Exchange and make still more credits? Nope, people are lazzy and stupid, bigger number is better, they will never care about small details. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Jan 21 2019, 22:19
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QUOTE(Honeycat @ Jan 21 2019, 13:34) *

Your price is too low


That's your personal opinion others may think the same as you, but I differ.

QUOTE(Honeycat @ Jan 21 2019, 13:34) *

Hath was going for 4080 the other day in the Bid/Buyers column in the exchange and I sold some.


Other days are in the past, the only thing that matter is that as of today and ever since I started my wtb I'm offering more credits for hath than what you can get on the hath exchange page (on both columns, Buyers/Sellers).

QUOTE(Honeycat @ Jan 21 2019, 13:34) *

No one really thinks about the fee, we just go for what we see in front of us and if it makes us salivate then we quickly go for it.


That is not enough reason for me to rise my offer. I'll wait months if necessary for someone that thinks about the fee and wants to get the most for his/her hath even if it's for a little margin.

QUOTE(Honeycat @ Jan 21 2019, 13:34) *

I would sell to buyers in WTB but only if they stop being cheap and make some attractive offers. But everything is bad these days, the H-Verse is collapsing upon itself.


For you someone like me it's cheap for offering more than what you can get on the exchange page just because it's not a huge and juicy difference.

For me someone that preffer to sell his hath at 4080 on the exchange page instead of 4045 on the wtb is just a fool or too lazy (since due to the transaction fee the wtb option is still more profitable, not by much, I concede).

And finally who's more cheap the one that offers a reasonable price on the wtb section or the the one that doesn't want to sell because he just wants more?

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post Jan 21 2019, 22:24
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If WTB hath threads are failing then isn't that proof it's not working? And yes, people see those high juicy hath prices in the exchange and go nuts just like at a shoe sale. Shit gets wiped out in minutes when the hath prices climb.

What's the fee? I never knew there was a fee until last year and I always forget. I guess everybody else who does business in the hath exchange doesn't know about it either? It doesn't even say there's a fee unless you notice something on your credit page.

If it's true about the net worth then put something in the description to tell sellers about it. That's the WTB shop owners' problem thinking up descriptions for their shops to get people in there. Break down the math in the first post, too.
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post Jan 21 2019, 22:54
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Pretty much a proof of behavioral economics on how irrational some people could be.

Taking less credits because he considers buyers should take care of the issue of transaction fees.

I remember hath went for less than 4040 days ago. I'd say 4045 is a fair WTB price for hath. Also the "failure" is more due to the fact that most players don't even visit WTBs on the regular basis.
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post Jan 21 2019, 23:06
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I think this is not about how much the seller is earning (who cares?) but how much I'm ready to pay. Right now people are paying 4060 for a hath, sounds fair to me...

Being cheap isn't a bad thing, though
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post Jan 21 2019, 23:47
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Today I learned that I'm cheap... all those years without knowing it...

But hey! apparently it's not a bad thing. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

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post Jan 22 2019, 00:17
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I've looked all over the hath exchange page but can't see where it says there's a transaction fee. Isn't that false advertising if there isn't something stating the fact there's a fee? It's ripping people off because they're unaware of it.

Maybe put it somewhere in print on the hath exchange page and people can have the option of looking at sellers' shops. But in the end, don't get mad because most of the population here does business at the exchange and not your shop. I'm probably one of the few people who notice shop advertisements in signatures and sometimes visit them.

And yes, all you greedy mages are cheap. HGC price offers are an abomination! >_<
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post Jan 22 2019, 00:42
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QUOTE(Honeycat @ Jan 21 2019, 16:17) *

Don't get mad because most of the population here does business at the exchange and not your shop.


Nobody gets mad about it. Chillax~

*goes back to the hard labor of being cheap*
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post Jan 22 2019, 01:34
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QUOTE(Honeycat @ Jan 21 2019, 17:17) *

And yes, all you greedy mages are cheap. HGC price offers are an abomination! >_<

*camera pans to me like The Office*
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post Jan 22 2019, 01:45
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[upload.wikimedia.org] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...-demand.svg.png

and don't feed the troll. just know sesshy-chwan is laughing in his private rant thread for all the ruckus he's causing.

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post Jan 22 2019, 01:47
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Dunno what everyone is complaining about. I've finally been able to forge a cool with only an arm worth. I've saved my leg! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Jan 22 2019, 01:59
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Does anyone know which magic element is assigned to which day of the week? thanks
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post Jan 22 2019, 02:04
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https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Battles#Day_of_the_Week
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post Jan 22 2019, 02:12
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 21 2019, 17:45) *

[upload.wikimedia.org] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...-demand.svg.png

and don't feed the troll. just know sesshy-chwan is laughing in his private rant thread for all the ruckus he's causing.


"All the ruckus" People hardly took notice of him. In my case I just addressed him because he quoted me. If he's in need of attention I can always give him some~ (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jan 22 2019, 03:27
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Does anyone know which magic element is assigned to which day of the week? thanks

Also don't forget that Friday giving 5% to all elements is including void, piercing, slashing, and crushing damage too.
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post Jan 22 2019, 04:57
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Wow there is actually a fee!!! Glad I know it by now, think I didn't waste too much on the exchange page, thanks for the info...
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post Jan 22 2019, 05:09
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 21 2019, 11:20) *

damn, i forgot to sell stuffers some days ago when they were worth 150k...


That's a shame.

You might have to wait until December of this year for buyers willing to pay that much.
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