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post Dec 5 2018, 11:03
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QUOTE(Ikki Pop @ Dec 5 2018, 15:55) *

ok, it's just me or somethin happend to droprate?
today clear all nonSG arenas: 4 artifacts, 6 chaos tokens, 1 blood token, 1 magnificent, 1 legendary
better than yesterday, but still terrible...


one legendary/day from arena - no matter how trash it is - is already a good drop.
I lost count of how many days I run all 2nd page arenas and got 0 artifacts.

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post Dec 5 2018, 12:43
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Dec 5 2018, 12:03) *

one legendary/day from arena - no matter how trash it is - is already a good drop.
I lost count of how many days I run all 2nd page arenas and got 0 artifacts.

one legendary cotton of warding don't make the difference
4 artifacts for 1758 rounds is strange.
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post Dec 5 2018, 15:50
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QUOTE(Ikki Pop @ Dec 5 2018, 17:43) *

one legendary cotton of warding don't make the difference
4 artifacts for 1758 rounds is strange.


it didn't but there's time where you won't get any legendaries at all for days even after playing some grindfest and such.
4 artifacts from 1758 round is not that strange, if 3 artifacts from 5000 round is exist.

actually... from my 23 GF run that I ever record, 6.6 is the average from 5000 round with 45 scav and 7 archeologist. I believe I ever read that the average norm is around 7.

and out of those 115.000 round, I only obtain 4 Legendaries. To be fair, there's also time where I got 4 legendaries from one GF run, but that's just one out of every GF I ever do.
also, we haven't talk about the difference on average number of monsters per round between arena and grindfest.


god it's not weekend yet... gotta put down that bottle.

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post Dec 5 2018, 16:07
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Dec 5 2018, 13:50) *

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Are you sure there are 5000 rounds for 1GF instead of 1000 rounds? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Dec 5 2018, 16:08
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QUOTE(qr12345 @ Dec 5 2018, 21:07) *

Are you sure there are 5000 rounds for 1GF instead of 1000 rounds? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


allright, I'm drunk.

edit: but still, 4 PA from all 2nd round of arena is not that strange. as the number of monsters...
wait... where is that [s]1.4k[s] 1758 round come from?

but let's put it this here too anyway...
the 2nd page of arena are 980 round, the number of monsters, if I'm not miscalculate according to the wiki is 4856, that's 4.95 monster/round, it will drop more when counting the fist page too (1264 round, 6144 enemies, 4.86/round)
compared with grindfest which have around 7~10 monsters since idk, round 10 or something? I guesstimate the number of possible drop difference might be around 1.3~1.5 times more than from arena.
if the average from gf is 7 then the avrg for 2nd page arena should be around 5 or something.

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post Dec 5 2018, 21:40
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Full PL2250 squads are really becoming more and more frequent. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

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post Dec 5 2018, 22:46
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post Dec 5 2018, 23:48
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RIP Twilight Sparkle's neck.

Hm, now that you remind me. Dont they have a zebra pony? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Let me quick check.
They have. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Now the zebra steak will taste tomorrow even better. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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post Dec 6 2018, 07:25
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Ok uhmmm… let's just snatch the fragrance meet

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post Dec 7 2018, 17:21
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I'm hesitating about whether I bid on the radiant cap of heimdall this week. Or just use my charged cap. What do you guys think about that, getting a better radidant one in the distant future, or try bidding on this one and forge the shit out of it.

Anyway I still lack three slots for my holy build. An LHOH, charged cotton shoes and a legendary charged pants if possible.
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post Dec 7 2018, 17:57
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Dec 7 2018, 16:22) *

I'm hesitating about whether I bid on the radiant cap of heimdall this week. Or just use my charged cap. What do you guys think about that, getting a better radidant one in the distant future, or try bidding on this one and forge the shit out of it.

Anyway I still lack three slots for my holy build. An LHOH, charged cotton shoes and legendary charged pants if possible.

Just use your charged cap and wait for the market to saturate so that a future radiant cap you'll buy will be cheaper.
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post Dec 7 2018, 18:01
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Dec 7 2018, 15:22) *

An LHOH, charged cotton shoes and legendary charged pants if possible.


Save your money to complete your build first
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post Dec 7 2018, 18:19
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Dec 7 2018, 23:57) *

Just use your charged cap and wait for the market to saturate so that a future radiant cap you'll buy will be cheaper.

I don't think there would be a day that the market for radiant heimdall would almost saturate

QUOTE(Lostwizard @ Dec 8 2018, 00:01) *

Save your money to complete your build first

True. I no longer play as frequently as I used to. My income is shrinking. Also I know I cannot afford a charged/radiant robe, so my robe is even plain.

But still, I did some calculations, proving that a 13% radiant one would add more damage than a 100%edb non-radiant one. If I could buy it for just a few millions, I might have used it for life (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

That's why I am asking if I should accept a cheap radiant or buy an radiant with high edb that might take me 15m+ in the future.

Edit: You know the importance of EDB% is usually exaggerated. Knowing that, I am asking if it would be worthwhile to spend multiple times money on a better radiant in the future.

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post Dec 7 2018, 20:03
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Dec 8 2018, 00:19) *

But still, I did some calculations, proving that a 13% radiant one would add more damage than a 100%edb non-radiant one. If I could buy it for just a few millions, I might have used it for life (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)


I think that you're right.
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post Dec 8 2018, 05:41
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Dec 7 2018, 16:19) *

Edit: You know the importance of EDB% is usually exaggerated. Knowing that, I am asking if it would be worthwhile to spend multiple times money on a better radiant in the future.


No, unless you want 50%+ edb radiant which may cost you 50m+ each. Changing from say ~10% edb to ~30% edb radiant isn't wise decision especially for those just have limited budget. If you plan to build non-imp holy, you can even use 0% edb Leg radiant.

And that's the matter of how much money you want to spend and how long you can wait for completing your build. Market of charged heimdall looks "saturated" as you can buy high level low edb equip with even ~100k now, which used to cost ~1m.

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post Dec 8 2018, 15:14
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QUOTE(Lostwizard @ Dec 8 2018, 05:41) *
And that's the matter of how much money you want to spend and how long you can wait for completing your build. Market of charged heimdall looks "saturated" as you can buy high level low edb equip with even ~100k now, which used to cost ~1m.


Proof would be great, I very rarely see charged or radiant heimdall under 2m (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Dec 8 2018, 16:47
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Dec 8 2018, 13:14) *

Proof would be great, I very rarely see charged or radiant heimdall under 2m (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


Just Smartsearch it.

Super's auction #137
[Clo03] Legendary Charged Phase Cap of Heimdall (340, Holy EDB 4%) (seller: que?) quitetanky 180k Proxy bid after #64; winning for 38.0h / 58.6h; -0.3%

Super's auction #129
Clo01] Legendary Charged Phase Pants of Heimdall (500, Holy EDB 16%) (seller: cbn) DLAE 140k Proxy bid after #65; winning for 57.6h / 61.1h; -9.2%

[Auction] Kedama's Auction #94
[Clo12] Legendary Charged Phase Gloves of Heimdall (Lv.471, EDB 16%, CS 2%, Agi 39%, Evd 21%) (seller: TCPG) Benny-boy 200k #115 E1

[Auction] Kedama's Auction #94
[Clo13] Legendary Charged Phase Shoes of Heimdall (Lv.500, EDB 18%, CS 69%, Agi 79%, Evd 85%) (seller: TCPG) Ssfuse 500k #72

Super's auction #121
[Clo01] Legendary Charged Phase Pants of Heimdall (500, Holy EDB 12%) (seller: cylinnia) Paff444 500k #74; winning for 49.0h / 62.1h; -3.9%

You just need some luck to get them, sometimes they may compete to ~1m as "usual", sometimes they doesn't and they just sold out like sh!t and nobody care.

And based on these half year results, if you are lucky enough you can even have chance to buy charged cap gloves pants shoes of heimdall within 1m already, the remaining robe you can either find low prof charged robe or high prof plain cotton robe with ~50k only.

[Auction] Kedama's Auction #92
[Clo12] Legendary Charged Cotton Robe of the Heaven-sent (Lv.459, Prof 14%, CS 60%, Agi 34%, Evd 45%) (seller: qiaoyao12456) NateDSjudge 700k #49

Super's auction #121
[Clo06] Legendary Charged Cotton Robe of the Heaven-sent (434, Divine Prof 53%) (seller: ericeric91) Benny-boy 2.1m Proxy bid after #116; winning for 48.4h / 62.3h; -3.9%

If you ask me to build an extremely cheap defensive (5 charged) mage, that's what I would go.

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post Dec 8 2018, 16:51
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That's exactly what I implied with "wait for the market to saturate". All prices are dropping, including those ones.
It's only a matter of time before higher quality Heimdall's price drops aswell.
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post Dec 8 2018, 19:36
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Dec 8 2018, 12:51) *

It's only a matter of time before higher quality Heimdall's price drops aswell.


Time...... Time...... Time...... Time...... Time...... Time...... Time...... Time...... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Dec 8 2018, 19:48
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Dec 8 2018, 18:36) *

Time......

Flies.
QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Dec 8 2018, 18:36) *

Time......

Bandits.
QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Dec 8 2018, 18:36) *

Time......

Wounds all heels.
QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Dec 8 2018, 18:36) *

Time......

Rosemary and thyme…
QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Dec 8 2018, 18:36) *

Time......

...is infinite.
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Time......

Relative!
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Time...... Time...... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Yeah, sorry. But except time is up that is all i still could come up with. Was at least one of them correct? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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