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post Sep 15 2018, 20:44
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QUOTE(PersonaFan08 @ Sep 16 2018, 02:24) *

Is anybody else other than myself still waiting for blackjac to accept their trophies?

Same here. I sent some trophies 12 days ago, but blackjac00 doesn't seem to accept them. It's ppl the longest I've ever waited
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post Sep 15 2018, 21:14
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QUOTE(as013 @ Sep 15 2018, 11:32) *

Just wait, he will take them some day.


I'll wait a few more days.

QUOTE(-vincento- @ Sep 15 2018, 11:44) *

Same here. I sent some trophies 12 days ago, but blackjac00 doesn't seem to accept them. It's ppl the longest I've ever waited


I sent my trophies to blackjac00 about two days ago or so.

My condolences on blackjac00 not accepting your trophies even after waiting for longer than a week.
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post Sep 15 2018, 21:37
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Or you could all stop relying on him to get credits. Just saying. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Sep 15 2018, 21:54
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Sep 15 2018, 12:37) *

Or you could all stop relying on him to get credits. Just saying. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)


This is basically my first time relying on him and I already regret it so what I'm going to do soon is recall my mooglemail message to him.

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post Sep 15 2018, 22:52
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QUOTE(PersonaFan08 @ Sep 16 2018, 03:14) *

I'll wait a few more days.
I sent my trophies to blackjac00 about two days ago or so.

My condolences on blackjac00 not accepting your trophies even after waiting for longer than a week.

I don't mind waiting for 2 weeks. Maybe 'cos I got some dozen million credits. It might take long but he will eventually take your mails. My last batch was sent on Aug 13 and received on Aug 22.
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post Sep 15 2018, 23:05
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Perhaps he needs to sell another star or two
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post Sep 15 2018, 23:39
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QUOTE(as013 @ Sep 15 2018, 13:52) *

I don't mind waiting for 2 weeks. Maybe 'cos I got some dozen million credits. It might take long but he will eventually take your mails. My last batch was sent on Aug 13 and received on Aug 22.


I wouldn't wait two weeks for somebody to accept what I sent to them even if I wasn't currently broke (22k).

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Perhaps he needs to sell another star or two


Perhaps he needs to sell even more than that.



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post Sep 16 2018, 02:32
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i remind all of you that blackjac is providing all the community a big service, but his credit stocks have an end as well. so every now and then there'll be periods in which you'll have to wait a bit more than usual.
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post Sep 16 2018, 03:07
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I always wondered how hard trophies would crash if blackjac stopped buying them. People seem to be getting pickier with weapons, maybe if the trophies were tweaked to go from pure shit -> mediocre shit, more than one person would buy them.
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post Sep 16 2018, 03:52
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I hope that prices for trophies don't crash too hard if blackjack stopped buying them because I personally need something to fall back on if my other plan to shrine them in the hopes that I get something pretty good fails.

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post Sep 17 2018, 16:15
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 15 2018, 17:32) *

i remind all of you that blackjac is providing all the community a big service, but his credit stocks have an end as well. so every now and then there'll be periods in which you'll have to wait a bit more than usual.


I think this is my fault because I've been hogging all the star purchases available and buying crystals.
(That star post was REALLY successful.)
I'll clear out my waiting list and give him a chance to get back in the star game.

I would buy trophies, but I have consistently had a horrible RNG in every aspect.
The 4 snowflake peerlesses I've had so far are unusable and not even worth 50k to a collector.
Well.... automatically soulbound anyway.

That brings psychological pain... not pleasure. I won't buy pain, I'm not into whips and leathers.

How blackjac feels it's worth it is beyond me... unless his RNG is a thousand times better.

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post Sep 17 2018, 17:58
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QUOTE(RoadShoe @ Sep 17 2018, 16:15) *

I think this is my fault because I've been hogging all the star purchases available and buying crystals.
(That star post was REALLY successful.)
I'll clear out my waiting list and give him a chance to get back in the star game.

I would buy trophies, but I have consistently had a horrible RNG in every aspect.
The 4 snowflake peerlesses I've had so far are unusable and not even worth 50k to a collector.
Well.... automatically soulbound anyway.

That brings psychological pain... not pleasure. I won't buy pain, I'm not into whips and leathers.

How blackjac feels it's worth it is beyond me... unless his RNG is a thousand times better.


yeah, you sure know how to price the competition out of the market! I can't wait for you to get your stock of gum/vase back to acceptable level. But we all love you, Mr. Shoe - you are one of the big spenders that make the HV world go round.

And now for something completely different. A man with a girl avatar. Based on the somewhat underwhelming responses to my new avatar, I gather most of you don't see it as an improvement?
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post Sep 17 2018, 18:29
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strange. i thought we were in the free market. and frankly speaking, i never understood why stars price skyrocketed to 50M...
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post Sep 17 2018, 18:59
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 17 2018, 09:29) *

strange. i thought we were in the free market. and frankly speaking, i never understood why stars price skyrocketed to 50M...


I don't get it either.

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post Sep 17 2018, 21:37
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Sep 17 2018, 08:58) *

yeah, you sure know how to price the competition out of the market! I can't wait for you to get your stock of gum/vase back to acceptable level. But we all love you, Mr. Shoe - you are one of the big spenders that make the HV world go round.

And now for something completely different. A man with a girl avatar. Based on the somewhat underwhelming responses to my new avatar, I gather most of you don't see it as an improvement?


I have my vase/gum up to about 2,750 each give or take.
I guess I use about 150 sets a week, so uhhm... carry the one... I guess a few weeks. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

And... well... I "did" like your prior Avatar better. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 17 2018, 09:29) *

strange. i thought we were in the free market. and frankly speaking, i never understood why stars price skyrocketed to 50M...


How I have it figured on Gold Stars:
One $10 adopt a server yields ~450 HatH (~15 per day at a set 30 days) and of course, a handful of GPs.
Just looking at HatH at today's prices of ~4200 credits each, $100 in adopt a servers yield ~19,800,000 credits.
So considering the handful of GP's, 35M is a good, honest price.
If someone offers me more, hell I'll take it, but that's very rare.

So I absolutely agree that 50M is too high. Even if HatH was again @ 6k credits, still too high.

I wish you and DJNoni would talk to 10b about the RNG thing.
I understand fairness and consistency and I understand the "not messing with the game economy".
But as you two know, there are guys out here.. including you two... that are beneficial to the real economy of HentaiVerse.

There's a point that real life "earning" of benefits goes into effect.

The cost of snowflake is over 200 million credits, or ~$1,200 USD in real money.
10M points of Trophies is another $few hundred USD.
Why should we get a Peerless mismatched staff of uselessness?

It's already soulbound. Why does it matter if we get something good?
How does a soulbound peerless that is only useful to the guy who put out massive cash hurt the game's economy?

I'm just saying... If you have more than one person buying trophies....
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post Sep 18 2018, 00:24
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Using exchange rates of hath~4100, kGP~250, and $5/month I get that a Gold Star ($100) is exactly 37.5m credits. The $5/month discount is crucial but if you sell even 2 Gold Stars you already qualify for the discount presuming you believe you will stick around for the 3 years.

Adopt-a-Server also grants "Work done by a server slot (generally a hitrate of ~50) counts towards the adopter's H@H toplist position, free archive quota (bonus +500 MB/day per slot), and mod power calculation" which I don't much understand but perhaps the toplist position could be worth some credits too. The free archive quota would definitely have value to me because that's a (hentai) part of the power of having a Star, right now I have 0 MB free archives.

I think it was Maharid who explained that any extra actual cost of a Gold Star is due to "buyer troubles". Also at least in my case I purchase the full amount ($100) of bitcoin (before fees) and the person getting the Gold Star actually redeems anywhere from $102 to $110 of bitcoin depending on what the exchange rate is doing. That's another 1m to 5m credits.

I didn't realize you had stopped doing Adopt-a-Server and instead sold a bunch of Gold Stars at 35m for a while. I think you would have made more profit with the Adopt-a-Server.
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post Sep 18 2018, 02:36
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Sep 17 2018, 15:24) *

Using exchange rates of hath~4100, kGP~250, and $5/month I get that a Gold Star ($100) is exactly 37.5m credits. The $5/month discount is crucial but if you sell even 2 Gold Stars you already qualify for the discount presuming you believe you will stick around for the 3 years.

Adopt-a-Server also grants "Work done by a server slot (generally a hitrate of ~50) counts towards the adopter's H@H toplist position, free archive quota (bonus +500 MB/day per slot), and mod power calculation" which I don't much understand but perhaps the toplist position could be worth some credits too. The free archive quota would definitely have value to me because that's a (hentai) part of the power of having a Star, right now I have 0 MB free archives.

I think it was Maharid who explained that any extra actual cost of a Gold Star is due to "buyer troubles". Also at least in my case I purchase the full amount ($100) of bitcoin (before fees) and the person getting the Gold Star actually redeems anywhere from $102 to $110 of bitcoin depending on what the exchange rate is doing. That's another 1m to 5m credits.

I didn't realize you had stopped doing Adopt-a-Server and instead sold a bunch of Gold Stars at 35m for a while. I think you would have made more profit with the Adopt-a-Server.


I think I hold a record of some sort when it comes to adopt a servers. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Divide that by 30 and multiply by $10 a pop, and the idea kind of hits home.
Then once it sinks in... add about $4k for stars. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
EDIT: And oh yeah... another $1k for mine. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I don't know... maybe somebody out there can top that.
But it'd have to be someone that's been around since the beginning.

The concern with adopt a servers is the accumulation of HatH and no credits.
If a member accumulates HatH quickly like I did, they could "easily" crash the HatH market.
Now with me, I stayed away from the market and went perk happy.
I got most of everything including Snowflake.
I also made it up through DD VII before getting disgruntled with my RNG and equipment (Which still suxs) and stopping.

With selling stars, there is no concern on crashing the HatH market while converting to credits.
It "is" credits. That's the allure.

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post Sep 18 2018, 07:27
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Shouldn't you have signed up for the 3 year subscriptions at $5/month that would get you twice as much?

You could crash the hath market if you accumulate too much hath and convert those into credits (if you just buy hath perks then you don't affect the market much) but you could also crash the market the other way if you sell too many stars and get too many credits and convert them into hath (but if you just buy stuff with your credits then you also won't affect the exchange rate much).

I suppose if current trends continue, after you run out of stuff to buy with your credits you will turn into another blackjac and just buy trophies too. And/or you can show Skirt with Legs and Blue Hair Munchkin who is boss in the auctions.
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post Sep 18 2018, 07:29
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QUOTE(RoadShoe @ Sep 17 2018, 21:37) *

And... well... I "did" like your prior Avatar better. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)


okay okay. I'll change it.
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post Sep 18 2018, 07:43
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Sep 18 2018, 07:29) *

okay okay. I'll change it.

Ironically, I disagree. Hard disagree. I really liked the other avatar you had. Not the original one, but the one you changed into first. Either way - just do what you like best
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