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Sep 8 2018, 22:15
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Fudo Masamune
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Sep 9 2018, 02:48)  I went searching for decondelite's shortsword to see how much it costed, and I found this. CODE Grand Prize for August 17th:
No longer available
Winner: FastFox So that's another proof that the lottery equipment displays do update to real-time status. Also found: Peerless Tempestuous Shortsword of Slaughter (7657 tickets) ~ 2m credits Peerless Shocking Rapier of Slaughter [Enatcon] (163895 tickets) ~ 41m Peerless Demonic Shortsword of Slaughter (27566 tickets) ~ 6.9m The 9m Legendary Demonic Shortsword of Slaughter isn't too ridiculous in comparison since that one was essentially a peerless and maybe some people think legendary sounds cooler mmmmm..... you need to stop calling $10.000 from a $10.000 lottery price a $100.000 because 50k of it's $1.99 ticket are sold. it's a credit sink with bonus, not a shop. |
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Sep 8 2018, 23:13
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BlueWaterSplash
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I did the math a couple pages back, it's up to the individual how to interpret the effective cost of lotteries. It's a reasonable comparison. QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash) The Peerless Demonic Wakizashi of the Nimble was a great deal, the entire pot converted into credits was 4.576m which is exactly equal to its auction price. Considering you could get a Golden Ticket or Chaos Tokens, you could say that Peerless Wakizashi went for 500k~1m (divide by 5 due to there being 5 prizes, then divide by 2 if you use a Golden Ticket). I guess the lottery can be a great way to get peerless after all, especially expensive or medium class useable ones. I guess I should start playing the lottery once in a while.
The other prizes in the Demonic Wakizashi lottery were 1 Golden Ticket (500k~1m?), 2 Caffeinated Candies (100k I guess), or two prizes of 19 Chaos Tokens. So I guess Chaos Tokens are worth about 70k each?
Let's try that math on the Peerless Ruby Plate Helmet of Warding lottery. Prizes were 1 Golden Ticket (lets say 1m) 1 Caffeinated Candy (50k), or two prizes of 9 Chaos Tokens. So the Chaos Tokens would be worth 60k each from that pool. I guess it does make sense. QUOTE(Juggernaut Santa) Sorry to destroy your delusions but...no one paid the full 41 and 6.9m in that lottery.
That's how much everyone put in the pool, but only the winner effectively paid the sword, the other ones just tossed credits/gps for nothing.
That's how lotteries work.
No sane person would've paid 41m for a shortsword If you average out the times you win and times you toss credits for nothing, it makes sense to me to think this way. The 41m was for a peerless rapier which is pretty much on point to its auction price. |
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Sep 8 2018, 23:16
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Wraithtouch
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Sep 8 2018, 15:13)
If you average out the times you win
Do you ever win? |
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Sep 9 2018, 06:59
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sickentide
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so if a lottery has a prize of €100,000 and sells 150,000 tickets at €1.5 each, we can determine that the value of €100,000 is €225,000, right?
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Sep 9 2018, 07:35
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Juggernaut Santa
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QUOTE(sickentide @ Sep 9 2018, 06:59)
so if a lottery has a prize of €100,000 and sells 150,000 tickets at €1.5 each, we can determine that the value of €100,000 is €225,000, right?
Flawless. Peerless (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) This post has been edited by Juggernaut Santa: Sep 9 2018, 07:36 |
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Sep 9 2018, 10:33
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(sickentide @ Sep 9 2018, 06:59)
so if a lottery has a prize of €100,000 and sells 150,000 tickets at €1.5 each, we can determine that the value of €100,000 is €225,000, right?
i always thought that in these cases it was a 125k profit for promoters (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) |
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Sep 9 2018, 10:56
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Fudo Masamune
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 9 2018, 15:33) i always thought that in these cases it was a 125k profit for promoters (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) or an offering to goddess snowflake through our messiah tenboro This post has been edited by Fudo Masamune: Sep 9 2018, 10:56 |
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Sep 10 2018, 00:12
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Sep 9 2018, 10:56)
or an offering to goddess snowflake through our messiah tenboro
there's a plot twist, but i'm not authorized to disclose it yet (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) |
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Sep 10 2018, 07:15
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treesloth
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anyone know if anything is going to be done to improve IW? specifically speaking, make it easier to get desired potencies?
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Sep 10 2018, 07:22
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yami_zetsu
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QUOTE(treesloth @ Sep 10 2018, 00:15)
anyone know if anything is going to be done to improve IW? specifically speaking, make it easier to get desired potencies?
Did an IW a few hours back cap1-5, jug1-4....Fireproof 1 The 3 potencies rule suck |
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Sep 10 2018, 07:35
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(treesloth @ Sep 10 2018, 07:15)
anyone know if anything is going to be done to improve IW? specifically speaking, make it easier to get desired potencies?
Iirc 10bo said something about rework of IW is on his list. |
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Sep 10 2018, 07:40
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treesloth
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QUOTE(yami_zetsu @ Sep 10 2018, 15:22)
Did an IW a few hours back
cap1-5, jug1-4....Fireproof 1
The 3 potencies rule suck
Yes, I don’t really see any advantage of having a third one randomly show up. I’m unable to play with many weapons simply because I can never get the right potencies. QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Sep 10 2018, 15:35)
Iirc 10bo said something about rework of IW is on his list.
Thank you. I hope he makes it easier than the way it currently is. |
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Sep 10 2018, 07:44
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Uncle Stu
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Tbh it is allready better and easier as it once was. Personally i am hoping for better potencies for shields. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) |
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Sep 12 2018, 20:14
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KitsuneAbby
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Random blabbering: I thought that shortswords were shit? So why all the tickets in the lottery? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) And no, I haven't spent 20k tickets, I already got my ultimate knife. |
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Sep 12 2018, 20:19
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Noni
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Sep 12 2018, 20:14) Random blabbering: I thought that shortswords were shit? So why all the tickets in the lottery? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) And no, I haven't spent 20k tickets, I already got my ultimate knife. should anyone want a peerless knife, I bet sssss2 is willing to sell! QUOTE(sssss2 @ Sep 12 2018, 19:02) 5990. 2018.09.12. / GF / Peerless Arctic Shortsword of SlaughterAnother trash peerless |
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Sep 12 2018, 20:27
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_LMF_
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Sep 13 2018, 02:19)
should anyone want a peerless knife, I bet sssss2 is willing to sell!
I wish I had the credits for that, or at least got something relavant to trade with the ICY knife |
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