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I still believe the stat calculations I came up with are correct. As for HP I agree something is going on.

Yes, thanks. I will do the same for the missing ones. Got a few RoB tokens to throw away. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
That's how I'd have done if I didn't try to use the HP info first anyway.

I'l try to check how it goes for other difficulties, to see if the difference in HP is consistant.

Is there something more recent then

- Monster health scaling was changed. Above level 100 it will shift more from difficulty to monster level, scaling up from 1x at level 100 to 4x at level 500. Max difficulty modifier was reduced from 8x to a 2x. Base health from endurance was reduced from 6 per point to 5 per point.

Is there something more recent then

- Monster health scaling was changed. Above level 100 it will shift more from difficulty to monster level, scaling up from 1x at level 100 to 4x at level 500. Max difficulty modifier was reduced from 8x to a 2x. Base health from endurance was reduced from 6 per point to 5 per point.

I already applied both changes. But one thing is sure: the level_factor I introduced in the formula is correct, practice-wise, even if it doesn't match what's said in the 0.85 patch notes. I already told tenboro about it, and he said "working as intended".

I already tried to introduce the level_factor that matches the behavior described in the patchnotes (a linear function between 100 and 500, as written in an earlier post), and it just won't work out, whatever else you can try to adjust.

I also tried to adjust every parameter in the previous formula, but it won't work either. The only things that are half-acceptable, are the one written in the wiki right now (I do am aware that this "base_health" is kind of band-aid to get the model match the reality without too much trouble), and the one with "100" instead of "50".

So until further notice, I will consider that tenboro did tweak other things that impact the HP calculation and I have no idea what it could be, besides the constants used in scaled stats and/or 100 instead of 50.

Alright. Hp really isn't as important as pmi and mmi anyway.

Uncle Stu, UnknowDestroyer, reality_marble, gianfrix94: you earned the datas, so (apart for thanking you for your help (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ) allow me to ask you: no levelups while you scanned, and all datas have been collected at PF, right?

you know, just to be sure and to eliminate two possible error causes

Late reply but yes to both.

Some data from a Lvl500 player would be very appreciated, as well as the data from a few low level players (a bit above Lvl200 and 150 and below). It's not an issue if it's not PFUDOR difficulty, just don't forget to mention the difficulty you're scanning.

PFUDOR level 366

-FSM

Scanning Flying Spaghetti Monster...
HP: 4989066 / 4989066 MP: 18% SP: 48%
Monster Class: Ultimate
Monster Trainer:
Melee Attack: Dark
Fire:+95%
Cold:+95%
Elec:+95%
Wind:+95%
Holy:-1%
Dark:+95%
Crushing:+50%
Slashing:+50%
Piercing:+50%

Scanning Yuki Nagato...
HP: 1104333 / 1107301 MP: 35% SP: 34%
Monster Class: Legendary
Monster Trainer:
Melee Attack: Crushing
Fire:+75%
Cold:+75%
Elec:+75%
Wind:+75%
Holy:-1%
Dark:-1%
Crushing:-1%
Slashing:+50%
Piercing:+50%

Scanning Ryouko Asakura...
HP: 1104064 / 1107301 MP: 26% SP: 13%
Monster Class: Legendary
Monster Trainer:
Melee Attack: Slashing
Fire:+75%
Cold:+75%
Elec:+75%
Wind:+75%
Holy:-1%
Dark:-1%
Crushing:+50%
Slashing:-1%
Piercing:+50%

Scanning Mikuru Asahina...
HP: 1107301 / 1107301 MP: 10% SP: 18%
Monster Class: Legendary
Monster Trainer:
Melee Attack: Piercing
Fire:+75%
Cold:+75%
Elec:+75%
Wind:+75%
Holy:-1%
Dark:-1%
Crushing:+50%
Slashing:+50%
Piercing:-1%

Some data from a Lvl500 player would be very appreciated, as well as the data from a few low level players (a bit above Lvl200 and 150 and below). It's not an issue if it's not PFUDOR difficulty, just don't forget to mention the difficulty you're scanning.

All pfudor

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all except ygdr. has absorbing ward
Scanning Real Life...
    HP: 4665530 / 4665530     MP: 27%     SP: 25%
Monster Class:    Ultimate
Monster Trainer:    
Melee Attack:    Void
Fire:+95%
Cold:+95%
Elec:+95%
Wind:+95%
Holy:+95%
Dark:+95%
Crushing:+50%
Slashing:+50%
Piercing:+50%

Scanning Flying Spaghetti Monster...
    HP: 10249530 / 10249530     MP: 21%     SP: 39%
Monster Class:    Ultimate
Monster Trainer:    
Melee Attack:    Dark
Fire:+95%
Cold:+95%
Elec:+95%
Wind:+95%
Holy:-1%
Dark:+95%
Crushing:+50%
Slashing:+50%
Piercing:+50%

Scanning Invisible Pink Unicorn...
    HP: 7256530 / 7256530     MP: 44%     SP: 39%
Monster Class:    Ultimate
Monster Trainer:    
Melee Attack:    Holy
Fire:+95%
Cold:+95%
Elec:+95%
Wind:+95%
Holy:+95%
Dark:-1%
Crushing:+50%
Slashing:+50%
Piercing:+50%

Scanning Urd...
    HP: 2118530 / 2118530     MP: 40%     SP: 61%
Monster Class:    Ultimate
Monster Trainer:    
Melee Attack:    Piercing
Fire:+75%
Cold:-1%
Elec:+75%
Wind:+75%
Holy:+75%
Dark:+75%
Crushing:+25%
Slashing:+25%
Piercing:+25%

Scanning Skuld...
    HP: 2118530 / 2118530     MP: 41%     SP: 66%
Monster Class:    Ultimate
Monster Trainer:    
Melee Attack:    Crushing
Fire:+75%
Cold:+75%
Elec:-1%
Wind:+75%
Holy:+75%
Dark:+75%
Crushing:+25%
Slashing:+25%
Piercing:+25%

Scanning Yggdrasil...
    HP: 1711130 / 1711130     MP: 48%     SP: 47%
Monster Class:    Ultimate
Monster Trainer:    
Melee Attack:    Void
Fire:-1%
Cold:+75%
Elec:+75%
Wind:+75%
Holy:+75%
Dark:+75%
Crushing:+25%
Slashing:+25%
Piercing:+25%

Scanning Verdandi...
    HP: 2118530 / 2118530     MP: 65%     SP: 46%
Monster Class:    Ultimate
Monster Trainer:    
Melee Attack:    Slashing
Fire:+75%
Cold:+75%
Elec:+75%
Wind:-1%
Holy:+75%
Dark:+75%
Crushing:+25%
Slashing:+25%
Piercing:+25%

Scanning Drogon...
    HP: 5379530 / 5379530     MP: 49%     SP: 49%
Monster Class:    Dragonkin, Power Level 1575
Monster Trainer:    Snowflake
Melee Attack:    Crushing
Fire:+50%
Cold:+37%
Elec:+75%
Wind:+50%
Holy:+0%
Dark:+62%
Crushing:+25%
Slashing:+25%
Piercing:+0%

Scanning Viserion...
    HP: 2742530 / 2742530     MP: 70%     SP: 55%
Monster Class:    Dragonkin, Power Level 1675
Monster Trainer:    Snowflake
Melee Attack:    Crushing
Fire:+50%
Cold:+20%
Elec:+75%
Wind:+50%
Holy:+62%
Dark:+62%
Crushing:+25%
Slashing:+25%
Piercing:+0%

Scanning Rhaegal...
    HP: 2742530 / 2742530     MP: 64%     SP: 90%
Monster Class:    Dragonkin, Power Level 1675
Monster Trainer:    Snowflake
Melee Attack:    Crushing
Fire:+50%
Cold:+20%
Elec:+75%
Wind:+50%
Holy:+62%
Dark:+62%
Crushing:+25%
Slashing:+25%
Piercing:+0%

SG had no special conditions

Scanning Ryouko Asakura...
    HP: 2274530 / 2274530     MP: 10%     SP: 36%
Monster Class:    Legendary
Monster Trainer:    
Melee Attack:    Slashing
Fire:+75%
Cold:+75%
Elec:+75%
Wind:+75%
Holy:-1%
Dark:-1%
Crushing:+50%
Slashing:-1%
Piercing:+50%

Scanning Mikuru Asahina...
    HP: 2274530 / 2274530     MP: 32%     SP: 17%
Monster Class:    Legendary
Monster Trainer:    
Melee Attack:    Piercing
Fire:+75%
Cold:+75%
Elec:+75%
Wind:+75%
Holy:-1%
Dark:-1%
Crushing:+50%
Slashing:+50%
Piercing:-1%

Scanning Yuki Nagato...
    HP: 2274530 / 2274530     MP: 32%     SP: 54%
Monster Class:    Legendary
Monster Trainer:    
Melee Attack:    Crushing
Fire:+75%
Cold:+75%
Elec:+75%
Wind:+75%
Holy:-1%
Dark:-1%
Crushing:-1%
Slashing:+50%
Piercing:+50%

This post has been edited by DJNoni: Jan 25 2018, 08:40

An Uncle on drugs is an happy uncle. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
Hm, somehow that sounds wrong, just asking but is the sentence above really correct when i just mean painkillers and antibiotics. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

I guess so, i mean they have even drugsstores in the US.

An Uncle on drugs is an happy uncle. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
Hm, somehow that sounds wrong, just asking but is the sentence above really correct when i just mean painkillers and antibiotics. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

I guess so, i mean they have even drugsstores in the US.

Flu caught up with you, huh? Uncle Flu. Well, today the flu hit me as well.

Flu caught up with you, huh? Uncle Flu. Well, today the flu hit me as well.

You are the second one who ask me that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Do you all take antibiotics and painkiller when you have a flu? Because i would never do that just because of a flu.

Thanks everyone. Now I got an estimated stats for all the monsters of this table (mostly endurance and HP multiplier).
Only thing left: we really, really need data from players below Lvl200, at least on bosses and schoolgirls.

It also allowed me to determine that the actual HP formula is the one with a "100" instead of a "50", in which case the error of HP calculation is below 0.1%. Therefore i'm correcting it.
We're pretty sure there still are some "round up" and "round down" or just "round" in that formula, but we still need to investigate further to find where.

To help us at it, we'd need more HP info regarding bosses, and the monsters "President Donald Trump" and "Uj Ibn Anaq", at non-integer difficulty levels HP factors (Hard, Nightmare, Hell, Nintendo).

This post has been edited by decondelite: Jan 25 2018, 21:46

You are the second one who ask me that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Do you all take antibiotics and painkiller when you have a flu? Because i would never do that just because of a flu.

Same, at most some Paracaetamol.

Thanks everyone. Now I got an estimated stats for all the monsters of this table (mostly endurance and HP multiplier).
Only thing left: we really, really need data from players below Lvl200, at least on bosses and schoolgirls.

Finding a player with level under 200 is going to be the difficult part (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

This post has been edited by gianfrix94: Jan 25 2018, 21:18

Finding a player with level under 200 is going to be the difficult part (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

i'll give you advice: it is not so difficult if you motivate them (translate: pay them)

You are the second one who ask me that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Do you all take antibiotics and painkiller when you have a flu? Because i would never do that just because of a flu.

Yes and no.
Flu is mainly a respiratory illness, so if it's serious yes, you need antibiotics and painkillers.

And by the way, @gianfrix, paracaetamol, other than being useful for temperature, it's also a mild painkiller (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

If your symptoms aren't serious to the point you don't need antibiotics and/or painkillers, then I'd say it's more like a cold, rather than a flu.

But taking antibiotics when you have a flu doesnt make any sence and every doctor who gives you some when you have a flu is an idiot. Because the flu does come from the influenza virus. And a virus does not care about antibiotics at all.

And is paracetamol not also a antiphlogistic?

This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Jan 25 2018, 22:01

But taking antibiotics when you have a flu doesnt make any sence and every doctor who gives you some when you have a flu is an idiot. Because the flu does come from the influenza virus. And a virus does not care about antibiotics at all.

^

Antibiotics are to be taken only when you are seven kinds of fucked up from a confirmed bacterial source, if not they are only detrimental.

Except of course you got a bacterial secondary infection, while you allready have the flu. Like having the flu and get also a pneumonia. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

I was just making a joke. Uncle Flu, get it?