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and imperil holy/dark need 0.8. you forgot that.

Is that the right number? (You're probably right, but I don't know, that's why I didn't mention it. I'm inclined towards the opinion that both no-imperil elemental mages and imperil holy/dark mages might not have made the right style choices in the first place)

Is that the right number? (You're probably right, but I don't know, that's why I didn't mention it. I'm inclined towards the opinion that both no-imperil elemental mages and imperil holy/dark mages might not have made the right style choices in the first place)

regardless of that (which i don't really know), this is what i always heard. someone also told me how to calculate that number (twice or thrice) but i always forgot (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Peerless radiant, nonetheless. Unrealistic (; ・_・)
In a "theoretical" perfect build using current equipment range data on wiki, staff of destruction gives <2% more spell damage, while a 4 piece peerless radiant set would give <1% more damage for the elemental suffix staff. Differences between a peerless destruction vs peerless niflheim in redwood is negligible in terms of damage, except the name being cooler on the Niflheim option. I assume that with archmage it gets different (but that would be silly?).
butt, wells, yuo can stll considers this fuccing nothings differents into making crimsonwood staff of breakage the 1st optionings ヾ(￣◇￣)ノ〃 of suppose

I think to add to this:

If you're a player who is not already a mage, and you have nothing or next to nothing, you're not necessarily looking for the absolute perfect end-game set. Mystic is just as good as Radient, in that it is a prefix that improves your damage more than no prefix/defensive prefix. When all you have is Jade phase pants of Nifl, Mystic phase pants of Nifl seem like a worthy upgrade.

As for staff: it's a peerless staff of matching parts. That's probably better than whatever junky magnificant/legendary someone has where they got 23% MDB or something because it was affordable. 100% MDB, EDB, Prof, INT, and WIS on the staff makes it likely better than "better" staves with lower LRange %'s.

End-game players might want some of these lottery items, and throw tickets at them just because they're rich and can afford to go after a 1% increase. But more likely it is 500+ mid-game players throwing whatever they have at a shot for a big upgrade. Winning one of these lotteries will help them get into a low-tier end-game set. It would leverage them up into a higher earning bracket to start affording more ideal stuff.

If you use Imperil (and elemental), then you want to get at least 0.68 prof_factor and no more than ~0.70 prof_factor; take into account the new up-to-600 prof gain, and then get whatever combination of equips will take you to 0.68+ with full forging. (Back when I was playing regularly, pants with near 100% elemental prof were what I needed, but nowadays you might be able to use a cap instead once you grind prof a bit past 500, maybe. If you don't want to spend a ton on incredible equips and forging, robe works just fine.)

No-Imperil style (with Holy or Dark, preferably) needs proficiency too, probably 1.0 prof_factor if you can get there - use the same calculations, just use whatever slots will get you there without (much) overflow after full forging. I'm doubtful that full phase is the best option for any style.

you can grind prof past lvl 500?

full phase is only preferable for schoolgirl arenas

and imperil holy/dark need 0.8. you forgot that.

How do you calculate prof_factor? er wait found it in wiki

edit2: I don't think it's possible to get to 1.0 prof without two pieces of cotton or 1 prof staff and one cotton

This post has been edited by treesloth: Dec 13 2017, 06:19

you can grind prof past lvl 500?

full phase is only preferable for schoolgirl arenas
How do you calculate prof_factor? er wait found it in wiki

edit2: I don't think it's possible to get to 1.0 prof without two pieces of cotton or 1 prof staff and one cotton

Stick with willow of destruction if you already have one, counter resists helps a lot (and is less expensive for the whole set). Get prof charged cloth to attain a minimum of 1.0 prof factor, you can get smaller parts too to accommodate for your growing prof. Other pieces go radiant. Get full upgrades (you can slowly forge radiant above 50) and the new damage perks. This should in theory be comparable to nonimperil holy.

Edit: yes it's not physically possible but you can get really close though (prof perks affects your prof above your level too), so it can in theory be better to go for that for more damage(not physically possible unless you grind a hell lot at lv500)

This post has been edited by cirrux: Dec 13 2017, 06:45

imperil dark mages might not have made the right style choices in the first place

That's what I'm trying to find out. I have cold LARD build, and now a LWDW imperil build. For now, it's very close to each other but dark will get forged more.

Stick with willow of destruction if you already have one, counter resists helps a lot (and is less expensive for the whole set). Get prof charged cloth to attain a minimum of 1.0 prof factor, you can get smaller parts too to accommodate for your growing prof. Other pieces go radiant. Get full upgrades (you can slowly forge radiant above 50) and the new damage perks. This should in theory be comparable to nonimperil holy.

Edit: yes it's not physically possible but you can get really close though (prof perks affects your prof above your level too), so it can in theory be better to go for that for more damage(not physically possible unless you grind a hell lot at lv500)

If I were to run these prof staff and cotton prof shoes, it would bring me close to 1.0 prof_factor.

Legendary Demonic Katalox Staff of The Demon-fiend
Legendary Charged Cotton Shoes of the Demon-fiend

The staff is 310, my innate and hath perk is 1.1x(497level)=547, and the shoes if fully forged would be 106. Together would be 963. That would mean prof_factor = (963-497)/497 = 0.936. I haven't forged the cotton shoes yet, but it feels pretty weak in arenas.

If you're a player who is not already a mage, and you have nothing or next to nothing, you're not necessarily looking for the absolute perfect end-game set. Mystic is just as good as Radient, in that it is a prefix that improves your damage more than no prefix/defensive prefix. When all you have is Jade phase pants of Nifl, Mystic phase pants of Nifl seem like a worthy upgrade.

which is similar to what i often suggest. if you need to just fill a slot, throw in whatever you can find. and it's not that market is always right, btw. if somepony realizes it, he/she/it still has the chance to build an efficient setup without needing to spend an arm and a leg.

you can grind prof past lvl 500?

yes, the last patch capped the upper limit for profs to 1.2 * your level. so the new maximum is theorically 600. not sure about prof perks effects in this case though.
plus, your profs (all of them) are passively boosted at the first quest of the day after having triggered the dawn, ie: collect your dawn bonuses and then do whatever quest, your profs will raise by themselves. this works as long as you have dawn EXP to collect, so until lv500

edit2: I don't think it's possible to get to 1.0 prof without two pieces of cotton or 1 prof staff and one cotton

quite possible. btw, you can find a prof calculator in my sig. also a cost calculator and some simulators for the rolls achieved. feel free to try them.

If I were to run these prof staff and cotton prof shoes, it would bring me close to 1.0 prof_factor.

Legendary Demonic Katalox Staff of The Demon-fiend
Legendary Charged Cotton Shoes of the Demon-fiend

charged cotton prof is good. low WIS but pretty solid everywhere else. nice piece.
as for the staff, at PF difficulty CR is almost mandatory. so even that missing level of penetrator may be a waste of firepower, as far as i know. you'd better wait for someone more expert than me though.

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Dec 13 2017, 11:58

When I get my elemental proficiency to 600 I may run five radiant phases.

That will be in about a year or so I think.

When I get my elemental proficiency to 600 I may run five radiant phases.

That will be in about a year or so I think.

i'd say a bit more, sadly. ssss reported a handful of days ago to have reached 550, iirc.

Mystic is just as good as Radient

Not sure. Mostly because its 2 different ways. Mystic gives crit damage, but if mage is powerful then its already near oneshot anyway. Radiant gives overall damage and probably works more often.

Not sure. Mostly because its 2 different ways. Mystic gives crit damage, but if mage is powerful then its already near oneshot anyway. Radiant gives overall damage and probably works more often.

Mystic is awful actually. Its nearly on the same level as the mitigation prefixes.

I dunno anything about maging, but I think that the best is Charged, right?

I dunno anything about maging, but I think that the best is Charged, right?

Two charged pieces were the difference between healing almost every round (ノ°∀°)ノ⌒･*:.｡. .｡.:*･゜ﾟ･*☆ to doing it less often. A 1h28m DwD became 59m DwD with 1 mag charged cotton and 1 charged phase and turns went from ~3000 to ~2550, even if my magic_dmg score reduced by changing from the common shoes + normal (higher EDB) cloth.
Put another charged phase today and I can almost watch episodes with subtitles while I hoover now.

I dunno anything about maging, but I think that the best is Charged, right?

A mix of charged and radiant, though radiant is much more expensive, especially on holy gear.

Charged is defensive oriented, while radiant is offensive, so in battles where you dont need that extra defense(like RoB and arenas), radiant is better. Both help defensively and offensively though.

This post has been edited by Piscolabis: Dec 13 2017, 22:01

which is similar to what i often suggest. if you need to just fill a slot, throw in whatever you can find. and it's not that market is always right, btw. if somepony realizes it, he/she/it still has the chance to build an efficient setup without needing to spend an arm and a leg.
yes, the last patch capped the upper limit for profs to 1.2 * your level. so the new maximum is theorically 600. not sure about prof perks effects in this case though.
plus, your profs (all of them) are passively boosted at the first quest of the day after having triggered the dawn, ie: collect your dawn bonuses and then do whatever quest, your profs will raise by themselves. this works as long as you have dawn EXP to collect, so until lv500
quite possible. btw, you can find a prof calculator in my sig. also a cost calculator and some simulators for the rolls achieved. feel free to try them.
charged cotton prof is good. low WIS but pretty solid everywhere else. nice piece.
as for the staff, at PF difficulty CR is almost mandatory. so even that missing level of penetrator may be a waste of firepower, as far as i know. you'd better wait for someone more expert than me though.

so for me i'll try to get to 600 base, plus 0.1x by hath perk = 660, then use a prof staff to get to about 970, which is almost 1.0 prof_factor. then it's all about playing with the prefixes and staff potencies to get a workable build. I probaly won't reforge the staff. took me 100 shards and hours of grinding to get 4CR, and 5SW. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

When I get my elemental proficiency to 600 I may run five radiant phases.

That will be in about a year or so I think.

fighting in auctions for good radiant phase when i'm broke sux lol

Two charged pieces were the difference between healing almost every round (ノ°∀°)ノ⌒･*:.｡. .｡.:*･゜ﾟ･*☆ to doing it less often. A 1h28m DwD became 59m DwD with 1 mag charged cotton and 1 charged phase and turns went from ~3000 to ~2550, even if my magic_dmg score reduced by changing from the common shoes + normal (higher EDB) cloth.
Put another charged phase today and I can almost watch episodes with subtitles while I hoover now.

for DwD and schoolgirl arenas, i would just use radiant whatever you can find. it goes much faster bc you will just imperil them and then prof and charged just doesn't matter. if you have a hard time surviving, use scrolls.

radians is expendings ／(^ × ^)＼ if going to buy and forg just ones then buy chargeds

so for me i'll try to get to 600 base, plus 0.1x by hath perk = 660

forget about that for a while. it'll take a big amount of time to reach that value - sssss plays a lot and he's only halfway or so. and of course gain rates lower as you approach the cap. personally i'd stick with your level + perk and see what it takes for me to reach 1.0 prof factor. in case you'll reach 600 base, it means you may drop a prof piece and replace it with a phase.

Considering how level exp builds up I wouldn't be far from the truth saying that 550 is 10% of 600 at most (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Considering how level exp builds up I wouldn't be far from the truth saying that 550 is 10% of 600 at most (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

possible. but since we're not sure, i'd assume 550 is halfway the cap at best.

on the other hand, if it's really like you say it means it's even less reliable to assemble a 1.0 build considering that 600 as your base prof.