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post Nov 22 2017, 16:28
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 22 2017, 05:51) *

pretty sure it'll go higher. we still have to hear from doracra, for example


Doracra has a phenomenal deity outfit as it is, but this would improve it.

He can afford it too. This may be fun to watch. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
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post Nov 23 2017, 02:09
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only a minor change, but please note: auction threads have been pinned for an easier access. this is some kind of an experiment, so it may or may not continue depending on users' reactions.
in case it does, expect for threads to be pinned around wednesday and unpinned around sunday/monday, less or more. all of this in case delays of any sort (including but not limited to clarifications at the end of the auctions) won't happen.

also, threads will be closed (like usual), and this most likely will happen when they will be unpinned.

enjoy (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Nov 23 2017, 02:15
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The near-constant bumps aren't enough? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Well, if you think it'll help.
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post Nov 23 2017, 02:18
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Nov 23 2017, 01:15) *

The near-constant bumps aren't enough? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Well, if you think it'll help.

aha, yep, fair enough. as i said, it's an experiment and it only requires a couple of clicks. if it doesn't help, people are accostumed to search for threads (and i may be even spoiling their fun (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) ) or what else... we'll simply drop the idea.
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post Nov 23 2017, 03:03
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it is good stuff because you will need to go searching for auction ( ̄▽ ̄) know won't go away from first page but pin is still more easy and comfy
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post Nov 23 2017, 06:18
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 22 2017, 16:18) *

aha, yep, fair enough. as i said, it's an experiment and it only requires a couple of clicks. if it doesn't help, people are accostumed to search for threads (and i may be even spoiling their fun (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) ) or what else... we'll simply drop the idea.

Has my vote.

If only there were some way to integrate this with HVToolbox... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Nov 23 2017, 11:04
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QUOTE(Cryosite @ Nov 23 2017, 07:18) *

Has my vote.

If only there were some way to integrate this with HVToolbox... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

What do you mean by that? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Nov 23 2017, 11:13
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Nov 23 2017, 01:04) *

What do you mean by that? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


(IMG:[i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/SHWZXyq.png)

Just picturing that some useful info on the auction(s) could somehow be placed with the lotteries.
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post Nov 23 2017, 11:51
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QUOTE(Cryosite @ Nov 23 2017, 12:13) *


Just picturing that some useful info on the auction(s) could somehow be placed with the lotteries.


Ahh, see. There is some issues with cross-domain interaction, but I think it is possible with some workarounds (postMessage maybe?)/ The problem is, however, how to make the script find the new auction threads? What the logic should be behind? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Nov 23 2017, 12:07
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Is 500k a normal amount of credit to hold all the time?
Cryo, how do you use your credit?
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post Nov 23 2017, 12:50
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Nov 23 2017, 01:51) *

Ahh, see. There is some issues with cross-domain interaction, but I think it is possible with some workarounds (postMessage maybe?)/ The problem is, however, how to make the script find the new auction threads? What the logic should be behind? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


I keep forgetting how... decentralized and limited javascript is. I'm so used to thinking of programming in terms of java/android where I can pretty much get access to any data necessary for the app to work within the app.

I'll post in your thread though, since that would probably be more appropriate of me?

QUOTE(clarkiest @ Nov 23 2017, 02:07) *

Is 500k a normal amount of credit to hold all the time?
Cryo, how do you use your credit?

I'm not keen on revealing all the details of how I spend my credits in the game. I mean, to some level, we're all competitors in the market, after all. Some thing though, sure.

I don't really have a "normal" amount of credit to hold over time. That buffer is something that ought to grow over time as I successfully make investments and/or successfully avoid making purchases poorly. It's kind of low at the moment, so not usual.

I clear SG arenas each day on Nintendo as my main source of income; my WTS hasn't sold my trophies in several weeks, so I'm sitting on a growing stockpile there that I may liquidate in the near future. So my buffer is technically much higher. I could lower my prices to the "normal" shown in other players' WTB and pretty quickly convert that into credits if needed.

I also recently paid Kinight several IW10 comissions. Details listed in my WTB log and their WTS thread. Basically setting myself up for some equipment upgrades soon as I level up a bit more to wear them. That has had me spending credits faster than I made them and depleted some of my stockpile.

I also spent about half a mil on a shortsword to use for testing in 1h. Details also in my WTB, and in the 1h research thread.

Anything more than that, feel free to ask if you're curious, though I may not be forthcoming with everything.
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post Nov 23 2017, 12:55
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QUOTE(Cryosite @ Nov 23 2017, 12:50) *

I'm not keen on revealing all the details of how I spend my credits in the game. I mean, to some level, we're all competitors in the market, after all. Some thing though, sure.
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Well, you could summarize this with "Equipment and buying IW service" (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
I see..., I was saving and equipment I want hasn't come up in, like, ever...
Then again, I usually back off when its price reach 1M.
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post Nov 23 2017, 13:00
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Nov 23 2017, 18:07) *

Is 500k a normal amount of credit to hold all the time?
Cryo, how do you use your credit?


My Suggestion: Hold 10M to ensure that you have enough Credits to bid something in the Auction, which are useful or you like but are not the top Gears.
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post Nov 23 2017, 13:09
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QUOTE(Cryosite @ Nov 23 2017, 13:50) *

I keep forgetting how... decentralized and limited javascript is. I'm so used to thinking of programming in terms of java/android where I can pretty much get access to any data necessary for the app to work within the app.

I would not say JavaScript is limited, just his "client-side roots" are clearly visible. In his latest variation - ES6, with introducing such concepts as Promises (async-jobs), Sets (the collection of original data, presented in ordered way), Generators (self-pausing functions with "return on demand"), letting apart all function programming concepts and ideas as "function as first-class-citizen" - JavaScript is getting powerful boost.

What is bad is, the forum itself has limited things we can do with JavaScript.
I can imagine the HVtoolBox should be connectrf to WTS, search for "Super" or "Kedama" in title, then store their links, then refresh these links every weak - but it is cumbersome, to say at least. If one have more straight and clear way to do this - I will appreciate to hear/see (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

On other hand, if both auctions had a server with JSON data, that script could easily parse - that would make a lot easier.

Superlatanium has a server for his auction, if only he could make the server to generate JSON for latest auction - it would be a breeze, but it would be overkill - his awesomeness would raise exponentially (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Nov 23 2017, 13:32
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QUOTE(chjj30 @ Nov 23 2017, 19:00) *

My Suggestion: Hold 10M to ensure that you have enough Credits to bid something in the Auction, which are useful or you like but are not the top Gears.

Don't be like me who thought 2M was enough then saw some good stuff and bidded more than I had then had to sell all my hath to get enough credits to pay cod.
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post Nov 23 2017, 14:00
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QUOTE(as013 @ Nov 23 2017, 19:32) *

Don't be like me who thought 2M was enough then saw some good stuff and bidded more than I had then had to sell all my hath to get enough credits to pay cod.


That's it, keep ourselves needn't think about borrowing Credits for Auctions.
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post Nov 23 2017, 14:15
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QUOTE(chjj30 @ Nov 23 2017, 13:00) *

That's it, keep ourselves needn't think about borrowing Credits for Auctions.

aye. even if it's still an investment, i was never positive about loaning credits for auction purposes. one should bid whatever he can afford.


btw, removed references about a quick WTT, if someone happened to wonder about it. it's not against the rules, it's only that it was filled and it was treated like a wtb.
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post Nov 23 2017, 14:27
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 23 2017, 20:15) *

aye. even if it's still an investment, i was never positive about loaning credits for auction purposes. one should bid whatever he can afford.
btw, removed references about a quick WTT, if someone happened to wonder about it. it's not against the rules, it's only that it was filled and it was treated like a wtb.


Yes, I agree, and nowadays it risks to lend Credits and Items to other Players .
This Year I used to lend things to a Player, who is about lv 400 and offen asks me Questions in MM about being a Beginner-Mage after he got lv 300. On his way from 300 to 400 asks he also Questions in this Forum and answers Questions form other new Players. So I think this Player has Potency to be a "good Player" and wenn he asks my Help, I just send those Items to him. I send 250, and he returns 200 of them, then he never has a Chance because he get banned.

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post Nov 23 2017, 14:31
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QUOTE(chjj30 @ Nov 23 2017, 13:27) *

I send 250, and he returns 200 of them, then he never has a Chance because he get banned.

heh, it never happened to me but sure, this hurts a bit. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Nov 23 2017, 14:43
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 23 2017, 20:31) *

heh, it never happened to me but sure, this hurts a bit. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


So, if someone are Players like me, who doesn't play a lot everyday and only have limited Resource to help others, I don't recommend the Help of "Lending Credits and Items to new Players", we have better Methode, which can not only help them but also protect ourselves, though they still need to think and fight themselves.
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