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Yeah, that >90% ADB ethereal with bad parry, bad crit and such, went for 16 millions (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

eh? where?

eh? where?

The same day I bought my rapier.

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=202448

[One01] Legendary Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter (445, ADB 97%, Parry 25%) (seller: Kadokura) Eutopia 16.223m Proxy bid after #206
[One02] Legendary Shocking Rapier of Slaughter (489, ADB 90%, Parry 98%) (seller: vivikinomoto123) End Of All Hope 3.2m #317 Extend to 14:35

The other stats of that ethereal are terrible, while mine has:

90% ADB (L-0.89)
98% Parry (L-0.04)
82% Crit Chance
80% PA
81% STR
81% DEX
37% AGI --> and this is VERY good for 1H, the lower the better

Guess which of the two is the better rapier (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

This post has been edited by End Of All Hope: Oct 14 2017, 21:27

Guess which of the two is the better rapier (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

So what? People read ethereal, jizz in their pants and lose higher brain functions. Since when is this something new? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

ah, yes, yes. sure, you did a good business there.

So what? People read ethereal, jizz in their pants and lose higher brain functions. Since when is this something new? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Confirmed, I also have an Ethereal fetish.

What's so cool about ethereal rapiers? I know they have no burden, but why should you worry about burden playing 1H? Is about the void strike? You'll probably IW it anyway. Or perhaps ethereal are wanted for DW?

I know they have no burden, but why should you worry about burden playing 1H?

I allways do, because i dont even have nearly enough of it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

What's so cool about ethereal rapiers? I know they have no burden, but why should you worry about burden playing 1H? Is about the void strike? You'll probably IW it anyway. Or perhaps ethereal are wanted for DW?

Actually non-ethereal are better to play 1H, because ethereal gets you a higher evade, which is unwanted.
As for DW, both a perfectly viable, considering that a featherweight shard will nullify entirely the rapier's burden, if it's in the 50% of lower burden rapiers. Except that when you acquire a non-ethereal, you already know what elements it will have. So for DW non-ethereal is better aswell.

tl;dr
Ethereal rapiers are actually the worst ones.

1) Ethereal has a strong history of sexiness. Elemental prefixes didn't always exist so the weapons of the past were either ethereal or normal. Ethereal was very rare and also had a damage type that was much more useful than regular damage types (soul -> void) so it was essentially the undisputed OMG amazing choice.

2) Burden/Interference. Burden in today's meta is good in some situations (1H) and negligible in others (featherweights/heavy armor strat). Interference is negligible with the innate arcanas readily accessible. Notice most of this advantage stems from 1H/Heavy being the meta strat. What if evasion based light armor became the new meta? What if burden penalties were boosted? Interference penalties were boosted? All these changes are possible and Ethereal would be the one laughing at the end. On the other hand, heavy armor could be buffed further (unlikely) or burden/interference can be made even less significant in which case the opposite would hold true and Ethereal would become even less popular.

But in short, Ethereal loses its charm because of the current meta. If we were to consider which is the most flexible? Ethereal any day. I'd take an ethereal weapon over its identical stat non-ethereal counterpart any time. 2H. DW. The ethereal won't disappoint in any melee mode. Does it warrant the value premium? That's up to the buyers.

The other issue is that with Ethereal, you can't choose the extra strike element, which is a problem for players who fight SGs a lot.

What's so cool about ethereal rapiers?

That's like asking what's so cool about a Ferrari? I don't know, they're just a luxury item. For me it goes way back to when they were rare and I liked them for having that beautiful void damage along with no interference or burden. Plus, ethereal sounds so cool. Ethereal~

for DW non-ethereal is better aswell.

assuming you don't care too much about the strike, DWers may prefer an Ethereal. if not for lack of BUR, because they can keep it at IW9 and have absolute control/flexibility about the strike(s) they want.

Ethereal has a strong history of sexiness.

aye. as slobber pointed, Ethereal Rapiers may not have a big appeal in this meta, since bandwagon style is 1H and 1H doesn't go very well with Ethereal weapons. well, if Kites of Barrier were still a thing, they'd be appreciated as well, but let's not digress.
DW style alone isn't surely enough to make their prices grow so much (since it's a runner up style at best), so the only reason because they are overpaid is because of their legacy, yep.

note there are players who know it (sesshomaru is another example), and a bunch of other ones who are simply dragged into this legacy bidwar without even knowing about it.

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Oct 14 2017, 23:48

and a bunch of other ones who are simply dragged into this legacy bidwar without even knowing about it.

I will still be ashamed because of the price i did pay for a Leg Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter at least for another year. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

That's like asking what's so cool about a Ferrari? I don't know, they're just a luxury item. For me it goes way back to when they were rare and I liked them for having that beautiful void damage along with no interference or burden. Plus, ethereal sounds so cool. Ethereal~

I know that feel, I used to love ethereal when I played 2H, for a long time I invested mostly on upgrading my ethereal mace of slaughter but now I didn't had purpose for it and I finally salvaged it yesterday, (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) I cried a bit, but now I have a lot of materials to reuse

I will still be ashamed because of the price i did pay for a Leg Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter at least for another year. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

don't tell me. if i think about how much i spent for mine... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I know that feel, I used to love ethereal when I played 2H, for a long time I invested mostly on upgrading my ethereal mace of slaughter but now I didn't had purpose for it and I finally salvaged it yesterday, (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) I cried a bit, but now I have a lot of materials to reuse

which is one of the reasons because i won't spend millions and millions on single items. a patch and all's screwed. thanks but no thanks.

I was talking about 1H rapiers.
Any 2H weapon will always be better when it's an Ethereal, because the Burden and interference are much hier on these and can't be entirely negated with a featherweight shard.

I just want to point that this whole discussion (which I don't take a part in, because I am not profient enough, but still reading your message with pleasure), started from simple question "should I let another player to win this rapier at auction" (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

(IMG:[i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/94PPK4d.png)

Just a random something I found on the internet. Don't mind me.

Oh, that is just gassensexen. The simpsons did that first.

Just a random something I found on the internet. Don't mind me.

eh, what does that mean?