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Lol... tenboro just killed the bazaar sitting crystal traders - still the same sell price, but the buy price is what ppl are generally offering in the WTB forum (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Lol... tenboro just killed the bazaar sitting crystal traders - still the same sell price, but the buy price is what ppl are generally offering in the WTB forum (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

yeah, 50c seems to be crazy )

Heh.

Did I miss something in the patch notes?
Where are my 20+ last elixirs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)?


MOD EDIT: Seriously, will you shut up about Karmic Exhaustion?
It's a comment, ignore it. No need to edit my freaking posts ~_~

This post has been edited by (Cheater) KamuiSeph: Apr 28 2011, 00:42

wow nice EDB
Oak might become useful now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Did I miss something in the patch notes?
Where are my 20+ last elixirs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)?

They're listed below your restoratives now.

Also, apparently the bot/bazaar pickers haven't noticed the increased crystal buy price. I sold a couple of Quintessence crystals and they were bought pretty quick lol.

I'm tempted to dump a bunch and make some people cry when they notice lol

Did I miss something in the patch notes?
Where are my 20+ last elixirs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)?

Look up in your inventory.. last elixirs are now between your spirit potions and your infusions.

wow nice EDB
Oak might become useful now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

If they have base EDB in the range of 7-8 then they should be comparable to katalox staffs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

wrong thread (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I would imagine that the crystals will still end up in the hands of those players who want to develop really powerful mobs. The only difference the price hike at the bazaar will make is that there will be less/zero profit for those buying them to sell on. A price hike was inevitable, if only to stop the repeated posts of, 'I just tried to buy them from the bazaar and somebody bought them all quicker than me.' (usually followed by a sad face).
It does mean that an artifact drop of 100 crystals now seems more generous (or is that going to be nerfed now?)

wow nice EDB
Oak might become useful now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

yeah, got a similar oak today... slightly less edb but more mdm - gonna have to compare it to my katalox and see which comes out on top in damage... i still can't work out from the stats which is better, mdm or edb. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

yeah, got a similar oak today... slightly less edb but more mdm - gonna have to compare it to my katalox and see which comes out on top in damage... i still can't work out from the stats which is better, mdm or edb. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Let's try to work this way:

MDM has a level multiplier of 100, while EDB has a level multiplier of 50
It means that for EDB can bring 2 times the benefit of MDM

With this fact, multiply the EDB by 2 and add it to MDM. it should give you some reference on the strength of the staffs.
Better still, try to compare their base value

For example,
the oak staff has base MDM of 5.13, and Holy base EDB 6.28. It should give 17.69% damage bonus for every 100 level
the katalox staff has base EDM of 8.76, and Holy base EDB 4.78. It should give 18.32% damage bonus for every 100 level

As a result, the katalox staff should be better in terms of damage.

This post has been edited by varst: Apr 27 2011, 18:07

A great Katalox will probably beat a great Oak Damage wise but Oak has good ET and Support prof.
Not sure which will safe more turns in Legendary marathons.

Let's try to work this way:

MDM has a level multiplier of 100, while EDB has a level multiplier of 50
It means that for EDB can bring 2 times the benefit of MDM

With this fact, multiply the EDB by 2 and add it to MDM. it should give you some reference on the strength of the staffs.
Better still, try to compare their base value

That's completely wrong.

That's completely wrong.

Sorry, it would be better if you can explain where it's wrong
As you're more experienced, i would like to know how it should be compared

This post has been edited by varst: Apr 27 2011, 18:09

And if a bot is vacuuming crystals, it's a fairly slow one. I just dropped a stack, and it took about 15 seconds before it was bought. Most likely there's one or two people refreshing it at any given time.

It was definitely a bot/script. It's not like it can be running when they are actually playing, or perhaps they saw this conversation about it and stopped. I did random probing and they were all gone instantly. It's either that or someone refreshing the screen 3 times a second for hours. Somehow I don't think you'd approve of either.

Well the price of crystals increases to 20 credits right now

Well personally, I would have made the buy price spike to about 1,000 C for a little while after catching them in the act. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Sorry, it would be better if you can explain where it's wrong
As you're more experienced, i would like to know how it should be compared

Because:
Staff 1 (destruction): base values: EDB= 2 mdm= 14, l250 with prof capped: EDB= 15 mdm= 61.25
Staff 2 (mjolnir): base values: EDB= 5 mdm= 9, l250 with prof capped: EDB= 37.50 mdm= 39.38
By your logic mjolnir wins:
2*2+14=18
5*2+9=19

Dmg formula:
(blabla*dmg*blabla)(1+(EDB+rating))(1+mdm)
Now let's say you're using gear with +100% EDB , 10% mdm from Godslayer, 40% elec rating (without staff)

Staff 1: 115% EDB, 71.25% mdm.
Max dmg: ~4.37x

Staff 2: 139.38% EDB, 47.50% mdm.
Max dmg: ~4.12x

In this setup Staff 1 gives more dmg, but you wouldn't use it.

It was definitely a bot/script. It's not like it can be running when they are actually playing, or perhaps they saw this conversation about it and stopped. I did random probing and they were all gone instantly. It's either that or someone refreshing the screen 3 times a second for hours. Somehow I don't think you'd approve of either.

Maybe there should be a stamina decrease/ halt recovery if you're stuck in the item shop for hours XD

The monster damage boost when critically wounded is driving me up the wall. Used to be able to watch TV while playing, now that gets me killed X(

Because:
Staff 1 (destruction): base values: EDB= 2 mdm= 14, l250 with prof capped: EDB= 15 mdm= 61.25
Staff 2 (mjolnir): base values: EDB= 5 mdm= 9, l250 with prof capped: EDB= 37.50 mdm= 39.38

Your logic flow is better than mine, thanks a lot.
Just one thing i would like to clarify: how should prof. be stuffed into the level scaling?
If there's no prof. bonus then EDB should go like 2*(1+250/50)=12
So the prof. bonus should go like (1+250/1000)=1.25? And then apply that to the scaled EDB and MDM?

And by the way, how should the weapon's prof. bonus fit into the formula?

This post has been edited by varst: Apr 27 2011, 19:24