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Sep 26 2017, 17:10
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Sep 26 2017, 17:00)  So, he greenlight (in some way of) HVtoolBox with few small restrictions.
I see no reason why he wouldn't. As long as the requests are done correctly there is nothing unfair/offensive in the script. QUOTE(f4tal @ Sep 26 2017, 17:00)  but just want to give an example of prohibited non-battle script. Conditioner this - script will automatically check bazaar pages every minute and will inform you when specific equipment in on sale (say cloth-stuff with price less than 17500 so you can salvage it for HGC lately). Script will not buy it on its own, but will inform you - that will make it illegal because it gives unfair advantages compare to other players.
I can see why such a script may be banned (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) I don't think that dumb refreshing can be, even remotely, compared to a script giving obvious advantage without any effort. (and I still find strange that someone may ends up without internet for days)
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Sep 26 2017, 17:11
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Noni
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I personally don't like the idea that you can get anything form HV without logging in or looking at the screen. A script that automates gift collection could be left running on it's own. I don't like that.
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Sep 26 2017, 17:25
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f4tal
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QUOTE I don't think that dumb refreshing can be, even remotely, compared to a script giving obvious advantage without any effort.. Of course not, just an example (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) I will agree with DJNoni at this part QUOTE I personally don't like the idea that you can get anything form HV without logging in or looking at the screen. A script that automates gift collection could be left running on it's own. I don't like that. ...it just sounds not pure enough... But also agree with Sapo84 that getting gifts from monsters in "automatic" mode it not that "hard violating" as, say, botting. With considering all said above, I would say that any script that will automate gift-collecting will violate the rules and will be prohibited with 65% sure. If Tenboro will allow it in one way or another - I will be only glad, but still it sounds fishy for me, sorry (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) ...but once again it is not that bad as auto-bazaar parser or auto-clicker at monsters... We can mail Tenboro after all and asked him, but don't look at me - in past seven days I mailed him 4 or 5 times already, don't want to bother him anymore with such misc questions (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) This post has been edited by f4tal: Sep 26 2017, 17:26
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Sep 26 2017, 17:57
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Sep 26 2017, 16:45)  Otherwise every HV toolbox users should be banned because sending X mooglemails surely doesn't seem like a single action to me (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) I protest.I am always sending my items in a single message! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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Sep 26 2017, 18:01
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Sep 26 2017, 17:11)  I personally don't like the idea that you can get anything form HV without logging in or looking at the screen. A script that automates gift collection could be left running on it's own. I don't like that.
You're not getting anything more than what you have already earned though. Same is true with refreshing the site daily, you get credits/hath/GPs, but whatever you get it's what you earned by donating/partecipating in the community, the daily refresh it's just a trigger. Appearing "active" when you have no internet access doesn't seem that grave of a sin to me (and it doesn't even require scripting to be implemented so it's pretty pointless to even talk about it since no one is actually writing anything, it's just an ethical debate). This post has been edited by Sapo84: Sep 26 2017, 18:02
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Sep 26 2017, 18:06
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f4tal
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QUOTE an ethical debate That is a right term! That was a term I am looked for when said "...it just sounds not pure enough..." (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Sep 26 2017, 18:11
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Cleavs
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i personally cannot understand how a script that auto-refreshes pages on its own every said amount of time has passed could be seen as non-automatized action. the fact that you started it as some point is unrelevant. even botters automatically start their software at a certain point, if it's for that (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) of course (as i said) i could be wrong and you're free to speak politely about whatever regards HV, but unless stated otherwise i'd prefer not to give coders too many strange ideas. thank you all for your cooperation.
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Sep 26 2017, 18:41
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 26 2017, 18:11)  of course (as i said) i could be wrong and you're free to speak politely about whatever regards HV, but unless stated otherwise i'd prefer not to give coders too many strange ideas. thank you all for your cooperation.
Thanks god nothing of that sort has ever been written https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=4652050Yeah...
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Sep 26 2017, 18:46
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f4tal
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QUOTE Wait... what the hell it is? o_o QUOTE i personally cannot understand how a script that auto-refreshes pages on its own every said amount of time has passed could be seen as non-automatized action. It is one of this situation when I do not like the idea has being said by person, but cannot find any vital arguments (only ethic, morale and emotions) to opposite his idea clearly, so, supposedly he is right despite I don't like what he is saying. My opinion is that such script is illegal with 65% sure, but I am not totally opposite to it, because Sapo84 arguments are vital and logical for me. Probably, my paranoia is wrong, or I just cannot find any clear arguments to oppose him with right now =) This post has been edited by f4tal: Sep 26 2017, 18:52
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Sep 26 2017, 18:58
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Noni
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And now for something completely different: My new Black Pant (black is the new black, when it comes to pants) Legendary Charged Phase Pants of FenrirPretty sweet, no? IW time!
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Sep 26 2017, 19:18
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f4tal
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QUOTE Pretty sweet, no? IW time! Pretty good indeed. Congratulation =) Drop or auction?
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Sep 26 2017, 19:21
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Noni
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Sep 26 2017, 19:18)  Pretty good indeed. Congratulation =) Drop or auction?
My secret (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) (I give you a hint: WTS)
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Sep 26 2017, 19:31
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Sep 26 2017, 18:41)  Thanks god nothing of that sort has ever been written https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=4652050Yeah... nobody said that script is legal. i asked tenboro just because though... QUOTE(f4tal @ Sep 26 2017, 18:46)  My opinion is that such script is illegal with 65% sure, but I am not totally opposite to it, because Sapo84 arguments are vital and logical for me.
my guess is more towards 95%, but not sure if i can say for which reasons (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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Sep 26 2017, 19:34
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Noni
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 26 2017, 19:31)  nobody said that script is legal. i asked tenboro just because though... my guess is more towards 95%, but not sure if i can say for which reasons (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) Fact of the matter is that only Admin will ban botters. The mods of this forum should however do everything to prevent this, by stopping or even removing discussions of potential bannable scripts. Just my 2 ct.
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Sep 26 2017, 19:39
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Sep 26 2017, 19:34)  Fact of the matter is that only Admin will ban botters. The mods of this forum should however do everything to prevent this, by stopping or even removing discussions of potential bannable scripts. Just my 2 ct.
i'm just waiting to know if that script is the same that appears in a certain other thread. sadly, i need either tenboro or a global mod for that. meanwhile, i suggest everyone *not* to download that script
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Sep 26 2017, 19:43
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f4tal
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QUOTE The hint is the level 500 vs his 491 He might get it from auction =) QUOTE (I give you a hint: WTS) It is so vague hint that I don't even know what to think of (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) QUOTE nobody said that script is legal. i asked tenboro just because though... Idea is cool, by the way, no jokes here. QUOTE meanwhile, i suggest everyone *not* to download that script Remove links from that thread then. Just to be sure. This post has been edited by f4tal: Sep 26 2017, 19:45
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Sep 26 2017, 19:59
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Sep 26 2017, 18:58)  And now for something completely different: My new Black Pant (black is the new black, when it comes to pants) Legendary Charged Phase Pants of FenrirPretty sweet, no? IW time! Nice? Are they Prada Black os simply black? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 26 2017, 19:39)  meanwhile, i suggest everyone *not* to download that script
It has been update several (5+ times) in the script threads. I was sure you had noticed it since it's now past version 2. Not that I care either way, I don't need automation when I have a smartphone with me 99% of the time. This post has been edited by Sapo84: Sep 26 2017, 20:00
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Sep 26 2017, 20:02
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Sep 26 2017, 19:59)  It has been update several (5+ times) in the script threads. I was sure you had noticed it since it's now past version 2.
yep, i'm checking it... [edit]: checked and noted an interesting detail, yep (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) a confirmation by admin should follow soon, but for now i'm pretty sure such a thing isn't allowed. feel free to spread the word. This post has been edited by Scremaz: Sep 26 2017, 20:28
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Sep 26 2017, 21:40
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Noni
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Sep 26 2017, 19:59)  Nice? Are they Prada Black os simply black? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) My Prada gear? My definition is everything over 20m is Prada. This one is expensive, but not that expensive... My cunning plan is to collect a good charged dark mage set of lv500 gear and not soulfusing it. 500 is often just a little bit cheaper than 350-450lv gear. And when someone brings me back to the light side of the force [star wars] (DJNoni... I am your father... This is not the style you are looking for...) [/star wars] I sell the stuff again.
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