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Sep 12 2017, 13:58
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(as013 @ Sep 12 2017, 13:26)  (IMG:[ i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/ZykkC1s.png) First time I can't answer riddle. applejack, going by hair and tail. those signs on his hips should be say something as well, but don't remember how they are called. either way, 15 seconds should be enough to scout all the needed infos. i remember all of you that - albeit mono-coloured - Riddlemasters come in with a handy pony chart: (IMG: https://ehwiki.org/images/5/53/Ponychart.jpg)
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Sep 12 2017, 14:05
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f4tal
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QUOTE but don't remember how they are called. They are called "cutie mark"! You should be ashamed now, Scremaz, how dare you to do not know this important fact! =) Once again - I don't clearly see Applejack on that picture, I may only think it is he, because no other variants are matching (no horn, no wings, etc). Maybe it is my bad eyes, maybe because I never watched any episode of MLP, but for me that riddle is complicated. No offense here to Tenboro or anything, but if were faced that riddle by myself, it would have took a time to figure out who it is. Fortunately, for all this time I face only 2-3 really hard puzzles - the most of them are easy to solve. =) This post has been edited by f4tal: Sep 12 2017, 14:06
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Sep 12 2017, 14:12
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Ass Spanker
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 12 2017, 13:58)  applejack, going by hair and tail. those signs on his hips should be say something as well, but don't remember how they are called. either way, 15 seconds should be enough to scout all the needed infos.
For me, applejack = wearing hat. So no hat = I can't answer.
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Sep 12 2017, 14:14
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QUOTE(as013 @ Sep 12 2017, 21:12)  For me, applejack = wearing hat. So no hat = I can't answer.
It is good to distinguish by tail.
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Sep 12 2017, 14:16
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QUOTE(Goldage @ Sep 12 2017, 14:14)  It is good to distinguish by tail.
Now that you said it, tails seem to be a good point to differentiate them. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Sep 12 2017, 14:19
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Sep 12 2017, 14:05)  They are called "cutie mark"! You should be ashamed now, Scremaz, how dare you to do not know this important fact! =)
should i? and why? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) if you allow me, i have to be a bit fond of HVverse, not MLPverse (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) QUOTE(as013 @ Sep 12 2017, 14:12)  For me, applejack = wearing hat. So no hat = I can't answer.
for me, nice boobs = D/DD. but it doesn't mean that a tiny girl with a C cup isn't well-endowed anyways and possibly even more proportionated (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) This post has been edited by Scremaz: Sep 12 2017, 14:19
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Sep 12 2017, 14:20
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 12 2017, 14:19)  for me, nice boobs = D/DD. but it doesn't mean that a tiny girl with a C cup isn't well-endowed anyways and possibly even more proportionated (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) wat
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Sep 12 2017, 14:21
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f4tal
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QUOTE It is good to distinguish by tail. I see NO tail on picture above =) QUOTE for me, nice boobs = D/DD. but it doesn't mean that a tiny girl with a C cup isn't well-endowed anyways and possibly even more proportionated laugh.gif That's what I am calling "backward thinking" =) QUOTE if you allow me, i have to be a bit fond of HVverse, not MLPverse duck.gif That thread is named "Ponyverse", so eventually and presumably, you should know MLP to allow you post here xD This post has been edited by f4tal: Sep 12 2017, 14:25
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Sep 12 2017, 15:09
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(as013 @ Sep 12 2017, 14:20)  wat
QUOTE(f4tal @ Sep 12 2017, 14:21)  That's what I am calling "backward thinking" =)
exactly. an absurd example to prove that the mere fact we don't contemplate something, doesn't mean that thing cannot exist. and in adition: in case of objective things, being true (being applejack despite not having the hat); in case of subjective things, being nice (being a busty girl even if your bust isn't kilometric) yep, today i have quite the bad day. don't mind me and my nonsenses too much. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) QUOTE(f4tal @ Sep 12 2017, 14:21)  That thread is named "Ponyverse", so eventually and presumably, you should know MLP to allow you post here xD
if it's for that, i'm not sure all people who post here are ponies and/or friends of them... QUOTE(f4tal @ Sep 12 2017, 14:21)  I see NO tail on picture above =)
check the pair of fluctuating eyes on the bottom right corner. there's sort of a braid hanging around. that's actually the tail, according to pony chart.
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Sep 12 2017, 15:36
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f4tal
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QUOTE exactly. an absurd example to prove that the mere fact we don't contemplate something, doesn't mean that thing cannot exist. and in adition: in case of objective things, being true (being applejack despite not having the hat); in case of subjective things, being nice (being a busty girl even if your bust isn't kilometric) That's kind of talk I like to hear/see at porn forum xD Also, excel sheet-lists and hardcode math formulas =) QUOTE that's actually the tail, according to pony chart. ~Actually~ is a keyword here. I see that curly thing, but for me it is one of this Rorschach's spots - just a distract from main picture and not related to them. But once again, my eyes are quite bad, so my seeing may be different than yours =)
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Sep 12 2017, 15:49
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Sep 12 2017, 15:36)  That's kind of talk I like to hear/see at porn forum xD
damn straight! QUOTE(f4tal @ Sep 12 2017, 15:36)  ~Actually~ is a keyword here. I see that curly thing, but for me it is one of this Rorschach's spots - just a distract from main picture and not related to them.
lol. i don't know exactly how this algorithm works (as i said a few times, there are things that admin isn't exactly chatty about. and even if i knew, i couldn't speak about many of them), but i guess that thing is a compromise between human eyes' readability and bot unreadability. prior this last patch we were shifted a bit more towards humans, but i guess admin learned a few things from the latest scripts he banned. therefore, a turn of the screw. i remember you that riddlemaster is a safety measure itself: it awards humans, it penalizes bots. the compromise being (as i mentioned above) the readability of the riddle. if you want to blame someone, blame bot coders and users. if you want names, well... you'll have to be quite convincing (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Sep 12 2017, 16:02
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 12 2017, 21:49)  if you want to blame someone, blame bot coders and users. if you want names, well... you'll have to be quite convincing (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) I wouldn't be surprised if botters exist but have anyone ever broken the old riddlemaster? Because otherwise, the new riddlemaster seems unnecessary and only make HV more difficult for us.
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Sep 12 2017, 16:08
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Sep 12 2017, 16:02)  I wouldn't be surprised if botters exist but have anyone ever broken the old riddlemaster? Because otherwise, the new riddlemaster seems unnecessary and only make HV more difficult for us.
i don't know the exact details, but i don't think tenboro would do such a radical change without a proper reason. afterall i doubt he enjoys enforcing policies and coding more complex algorithms if not needed and when he could, saying, take a nap or surf porn in that very same time...
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Sep 12 2017, 16:19
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morineko
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H@H go endless "Startup notification failed" again. The three words just told nothing what actually go wrong. It's so frustrated trying to solve it blindly.... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Sep 12 2017, 16:24
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f4tal
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QUOTE ever broken the old riddlemaster? Yes it was. I even saw three months ago a detail parser algorithm on habrahabr.ru (this is a Russian soft/code/tech site/social-web). That algorithm had somewhere of 70% of success rate and if Tenboro gave more than 20 seconds to answer, than it may had even 95% - it fails, mostly, because it had not enough time to finish parsing and just answer randomly. The very old riddlemaster (labyrinth/maze-one) was broken pretty fast like in 3-5 days and again on habrahabr.ru one can find full code and explanation. So, yes, making riddlemaster harder was necessary step to chill the bots off. This post has been edited by f4tal: Sep 12 2017, 16:25
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Sep 12 2017, 16:34
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Usagi =
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Sep 12 2017, 22:24)  I even saw three months ago a detail parser algorithm on habrahabr.ru (this is a Russian soft/code/tech site/social-web). That algorithm had somewhere of 70% of success rate and if Tenboro gave more than 20 seconds to answer, than it may had even 95% - it fails, mostly, because it had not enough time to finish parsing and just answer randomly.
This is interesting. To think that someone would be willing to spend the time to make one considering the meager rewards.
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Sep 12 2017, 17:17
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Sep 12 2017, 16:24)  I even saw three months ago a detail parser algorithm on habrahabr.ru (this is a Russian soft/code/tech site/social-web). That algorithm had somewhere of 70% of success rate and if Tenboro gave more than 20 seconds to answer, than it may had even 95% - it fails, mostly, because it had not enough time to finish parsing and just answer randomly.
The very old riddlemaster (labyrinth/maze-one) was broken pretty fast like in 3-5 days and again on habrahabr.ru one can find full code and explanation.
why doesn't it surprise me that it was a Russian site? QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Sep 12 2017, 16:34)  To think that someone would be willing to spend the time to make one considering the meager rewards.
there are even bigger examples, worry not.
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Sep 12 2017, 17:41
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f4tal
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QUOTE why doesn't it surprise me that it was a Russian site? We are top-world hackers, do not forget, we even hacked the President of USA xD But, well, it is just an one example of that parser made by Russians. I will be not surprised if some Chinese or Indonesian players have created their own parser/solver with different algorithms and even high success rate. =)
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Sep 12 2017, 17:58
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Sep 12 2017, 17:41)  But, well, it is just an one example of that parser made by Russians. I will be not surprised if some Chinese or Indonesian players have created their own parser/solver with different algorithms and even high success rate.
hmm... how much could be said about these mere two lines... and how much could NOT be said...
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