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post Sep 1 2017, 21:07
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QUOTE(chcommunity @ Sep 1 2017, 16:39) *

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best pfudor RE drop 2017. 10/10 worth training


Get a PFUDOR RE where you get only soul fragments and XP, then we can talk. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

@Scremaz:
It's not to discuss your authority, but as a representative of "the law", you should communicate in a very explicit, formal way. Even when one does efforts to be accurate, explicit and yada yada we still manage to get a few spaced-out guys who "don't get the message". So if what we're given is casual talk with hidden messages...

Now, don't forget that as a community and sub-community of the irreductible gauls HV players, we are here to communicate, be it for serious matters, or to have fun. There is a thin line between what is fun and what is pure spam, and it's your job to make it clear to everyone what is spam and what is allowed fun.

So regarding the matter of that "not so useless" thread, it should be written explicitely what belongs to it, what does not, and when someone is a bit out of the way he should be thoroughly asked to domerate himself. And I suggest that now the discussion should be "what is that damn thread for?", with the opinion of more than 3-4 people about it.
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post Sep 1 2017, 22:13
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Sep 1 2017, 21:07) *

It's not to discuss your authority, but as a representative of "the law", you should communicate in a very explicit, formal way. Even when one does efforts to be accurate, explicit and yada yada we still manage to get a few spaced-out guys who "don't get the message". So if what we're given is casual talk with hidden messages...

i'm formal when needed. and i also send private notifications when (not) needed, even at the cost of seeming redundant. try ask around.
and look, it took me to close that thread and recieve some recriminations, but finally we're speaking (more or less) seriously about that.

QUOTE(decondelite @ Sep 1 2017, 21:07) *

Now, don't forget that as a community and sub-community of the irreductible gauls HV players, we are here to communicate, be it for serious matters, or to have fun. There is a thin line between what is fun and what is pure spam, and it's your job to make it clear to everyone what is spam and what is allowed fun.

you'll understand that i cannot say "this is good, this is bad" for *every* post (just because this is the irreductible gauls section). just look at the amount of posts submitted here every day.
at a certain point you'll trust users' judgeness.

QUOTE(decondelite @ Sep 1 2017, 21:07) *

So regarding the matter of that "not so useless" thread, it should be written explicitely what belongs to it, what does not, and when someone is a bit out of the way he should be thoroughly asked to domerate himself. And I suggest that now the discussion should be "what is that damn thread for?", with the opinion of more than 3-4 people about it.

i announced people what i wanted to do. a few of them understood it (yes, some of them posted and i recieved some messages from supporters of both sides, so i wasn't *so* obscure afterall). i recieved whines, and so i let people time to organize their thoughts. now, seems that returning to post emoticons is more important than discussing that meaning. not my business.


now, shall we speak a bit less about why i closed that topic and a bit more about its purpose? i don't really want to seem obsessed with that, since that's not the case. if you note, it's not the first time i do a bit of cleaning.
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post Sep 1 2017, 23:19
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 1 2017, 22:13) *

now, shall we speak a bit less about why i closed that topic and a bit more about its purpose?


I think that any purpose related to shared-hardship and recognizing each other as poor players could be better achieved by adding a crying gif in your sig. Then everybody sees that you think you are a poor HV player. like a secret handshake sort of thing.

you know that's what we rich players do: showing off our expensive gear in our sigs!

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post Sep 2 2017, 00:04
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 1 2017, 22:13) *

i also send private notifications when (not) needed

I can confirm (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

QUOTE(DJNoni @ Sep 1 2017, 23:19) *

I think that any purpose related to shared-hardship and recognizing each other as poor players could be better achieved by adding a crying gif in your sig.

nobody_xxx was ahead of the times (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Sep 2 2017, 08:09
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Sep 2 2017, 00:04) *

I can confirm (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
nobody_xxx was ahead of the times (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


you got the reference! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Sep 2 2017, 14:48
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[Two01] Legendary Ethereal Mace of Slaughter (Lv.457, ADB 80%) (seller: Charlotte1) orz@orz 1.5m #35


(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) I wonder if Mace is worth it.
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post Sep 2 2017, 23:29
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This is uncles min-max credit drop list for all arenas on pfudor. Clear bonus is not included. This list doesnt claim to be 100% accurate. I hope it will helpfull to some of you. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

150
22.798 - 35.014

125
12-420 - 19.919

110
10.943 - 14.576

100
9.411 - 14.800

90
7.971 - 11.507

80
9.053 - 13.258

75
6.160 - 8.688

70
6.479 - 9.100

65
7.050 - 10.202

60
5.880 - 9.660

55
5.072 - 6.976

50
3.635 - 6.420

45
4.081 - 5.646

40
3.863 - 5.533

35
2.860 - 4.991

30
2.550 - 4.158

25
1.711 - 3.901

20
962 - 2.694

15
604 - 1.636

12
285 - 981

7
0 - 480

5
0 - 283
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post Sep 2 2017, 23:36
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Sep 3 2017, 00:29) *


100
9.411 - 14.800

90
7.971 - 11.507

80
9.053 - 13.258

75
6.160 - 8.688

I am wondering why 90-arena hsss such drop compare to arenas before and after?

Uncle, this is data for what period? Week? Month? =)
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post Sep 2 2017, 23:39
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probably because less monster count than the before/after arenas
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Arena#Arena_Challenges
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post Sep 2 2017, 23:44
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QUOTE(Slobber @ Sep 2 2017, 23:39) *

probably because less monster count than the before/after arenas
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Arena#Arena_Challenges

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post Sep 2 2017, 23:53
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Oh, right, my bad. I wrongly thought that more arena has rounds, than more monsters it should have too. 90 arena is a little counter-intuitive here =)

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post Sep 3 2017, 00:21
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Sep 2 2017, 23:36) *

Uncle, this is data for what period? Week? Month? =)

This data is from around a month. Someone asked in the experts thread about the income of the arenas, so i got the idea for this min-max list. I guess it would still take some time to make this list 100% accurate, but because it is now at a level that didnt get every day a reason to change on of the numbers it is accurate enough to show what arenas can give you how much. At least for PFUDOR. But i am sure to see which arena give the most credits will be helpfull for other difficultys too. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Sep 3 2017, 00:38
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Of course it will! Thank you for such data.

It looks like one can get about 200,000 credits just from arenas' credit drop in a day. You know, very good income!
However, since RNG hates us so much, I think it is most usually to get 150,000 from drops per day.

I never never logged how many credits I got from arenas, but I know that with bazaring and trading all useless junk, I have a regular ~300,000 income and supposedly credits from arena are half of that income =)
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post Sep 3 2017, 00:52
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Sep 3 2017, 00:38) *

Of course it will! Thank you for such data.


Glad to hear that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

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It looks like one can get about 200,000 credits just from arenas' credit drop in a day.


Did you include the 19020 clear bonus for all arenas? Like i said, this list dont include them.
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post Sep 3 2017, 01:00
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No I didn't =)
Just credit drops.

Also, there are drops from RE, which are 5x (?) more than in Arenas - we need to count them all.

By the way, what is best best way to make lots of money in a short amount of time? Not like I am really going (still I am pretty poor with only 200,000 credits in pocket), but want to know just to please my curiosity.
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post Sep 3 2017, 01:11
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Sep 3 2017, 01:00) *

By the way, what is best best way to make lots of money in a short amount of time? Not like I am really going (still I am pretty poor with only 200,000 credits in pocket), but want to know just to please my curiosity.

do high-profile bounties, i guess. or selling stars.
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post Sep 3 2017, 01:14
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Well i would say fastest way to get a lot of money is do the SG arenas and T&T every day and kill the FSM every time you have the tokens for and sell all those trophies. At least that is the fastest way i can now think of that will give you sure as sure a lot of money.

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 3 2017, 01:11) *

do high-profile bounties, i guess. or selling stars.


Yeah, or just get 103 Adopt a Server and get 1K hath per day. I thought he wanted a method in the game. But i may be wrong.

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post Sep 3 2017, 01:19
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Sep 3 2017, 02:14) *

Well i would say fastest way to get a lot of money is do the SG arenas and T&T every day and kill the FSM every time you have the tokens for and sell all those trophies. At least that is the fastest way i can now think of that will give you sure as sure a lot of money.

Exactly what I am doing, still I am not rich at all =)

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or selling stars.

What is current price,BTW? I remember I read something about 50mil, is it true?

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Yeah, or just get 103 Adopt a Server and get 1K hath per day. I thought he wanted a method in the game. But i may be wrong.

Mostly, in-game, yes, but it us interesting to hear about other incomes I will never bother with.. =)

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post Sep 3 2017, 01:22
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Sep 3 2017, 01:14) *

Well i would say fastest way to get a lot of money is do the SG arenas and T&T every day and kill the FSM every time you have the tokens for and sell all those trophies. At least that is the fastest way i can now think of that will give you sure as sure a lot of money.

yep, that's the way i suggest to go when people asks me for a loan. usually they are able to return 1M/week, while still keeping something in the 500k~1M range (rough esteem, i never bothered to ask them) for their needs

so i guess that with such a routine, a bit of artifacts here and there, a bit of luck with monster lab... 2M/week should be possible.

note that a gold star currently rewards ~260k/week. with its current price, it means roughly 4 years (slightly less) to pay it back. it used to be less than 3 not so many months ago...
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post Sep 3 2017, 01:25
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Sep 3 2017, 01:19) *

Exactly what I am doing, still I am not rich at all =)


That is what i am doing. Well that and a few more arenas. And i do sell the shit out of my inventory. But i got in the last two weaks from nearly zero, up to a two digit M. Okay, my income from the dawn sure did help with that. But most of may money is just from honest grinding and the monster gifts.

QUOTE(f4tal @ Sep 3 2017, 01:19) *

What is current price,BTW? I remember I read something about 50mil, is it true?
Mostly, in-game, yes, but it us interesting to hear about other incomes I will never bother with.. =)


Well last time i checked it was around 40M. So i am not sure about current prices. But maybe you are lucky and you can find someone you make you a btter price. Or even find one who give you one for free. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Yeah, i know as if that would ever happen, but i couldnt resist. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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