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Aug 18 2017, 23:47
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Logii
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Aug 18 2017, 04:36)  -snip-
Thank you for your effort, it looks pretty good (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Interestingly the Boulay HV Dark version is also an edit/rework of the original ctxl dark theme, as far as I know. I'll give it a try for a while, at least it seems like the Skillbook spells barely fit in the window this time. Not that big of a deal though, I usually just use the hotbar instead of Skillbook anyway. Eventually I'll also test if either style has performance impact (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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Aug 19 2017, 21:09
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KitsuneAbby
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My rant of today. I do all the regular arenas at lightning speed with my Hard 2H, then switch to PFUDOR 1H for the SG arenas. Network suddenly starts being heavily clogged-up as soon as I start... It's gonna be a looooooong arena. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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Aug 19 2017, 21:41
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Aug 19 2017, 21:09)  I do all the regular arenas at lightning speed with my Hard 2H,
I am curious who much did the playstyle for 2H change since the skills are free to use without any order to use them?
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Aug 19 2017, 22:36
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Juggernaut Santa
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Aug 19 2017, 21:41)  I am curious who much did the playstyle for 2H change since the skills are free to use without any order to use them?
I used 2H quite a bit in the past, and a little some weeks ago when grinding other profs other than the main meant something (at least now dawn will not rob any when 10b implements that). I think the best way to use your OC is to keep it all for Spirit Stance. You hit until it's max, then you toggle and use it. Skill aren't that strong. At most you can use OFC on bigger rounds, but I prefer using the stance for 30/50 turns
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Aug 19 2017, 22:42
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Uncle Stu
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So no change for 2H huh? I have read the same thing about DW, so could it be that 1H is the only playstyle that acctualy benefit from the freestyle skillusage? 1H ist ist mein Nahkampfstil, 1H bin auch ich, ja ich, 1H muss mein Mädel sein gerade so wie ich. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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Aug 19 2017, 22:43
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Aug 19 2017, 21:41)  I am curious who much did the playstyle for 2H change since the skills are free to use without any order to use them?
The time you use to select a skill is time during which you could have dealt a dozen of blows. That hasn't changed. The only one I find really useful is Frenzied Blows (DW), as you can one-shot a SG in PFUDOR with it, given that there aren't any nearby monsters and you Imperil'ed it.
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Aug 19 2017, 22:47
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Juggernaut Santa
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Aug 19 2017, 22:42)  So no change for 2H huh? I have read the same thing about DW, so could it be that 1H is the only playstyle that acctualy benefit from the freestyle skillusage?
The matter is: 2H hits multiple targets already. Skills don't do that much damage to justify using up overcharge. Niten is similar to 2H but you already depend on Skyward or FRD, and you had no T2 and T3 to start with, so... DW has a very powerful skill in Frenzied Blows so you can use it without using the weak Iris Strike and the situational Backstab. 1H has a niche use for Vital Strike and Merciful Blow, but less common than DW. Almost always OFC is the way.
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Aug 19 2017, 22:49
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Cleavs
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DW had some advantages as well, yep. T2 skill still needs to be chained for best effect, but being able to cast spam Frenzied Blows at will... i still have to try it with FSM, but seems a nice idea. i wonder if it'll be more efficienct than OFC... QUOTE(End Of All Hope @ Aug 19 2017, 22:47)  using the weak Iris Strike and the situational Backstab.
hmmm... it's not like Iris Strike is a weak hit (even if it's not wrong). it's merely a prerequisite to boost Backstab's damage.
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Aug 19 2017, 22:58
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(End Of All Hope @ Aug 19 2017, 22:47)  1H has a niche use for Vital Strike and Merciful Blow, but less common than DW. Almost always OFC is the way.
Nah, merciful blow is useless. When you have any enemy, maybe except FSM, so low that you would benefit from it, you are faster killing it with normal attacks. All i use is VS against SGs. With imperil and one or two penetrated armor, they are good as dead.
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Aug 19 2017, 22:58
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Juggernaut Santa
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 19 2017, 22:49)  DW had some advantages as well, yep. T2 skill still needs to be chained for best effect, but being able to cast spam Frenzied Blows at will... i still have to try it with FSM, but seems a nice idea. i wonder if it'll be more efficienct than OFC... hmmm... it's not like Iris Strike is a weak hit (even if it's not wrong). it's merely a prerequisite to boost Backstab's damage.
I think that to surpass OFC's damage you have to single target with Frenzied Blows.
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Aug 19 2017, 23:06
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(End Of All Hope @ Aug 19 2017, 22:58)  I think that to surpass OFC's damage you have to single target with Frenzied Blows.
yes. but do you want to compare 20 strikes against one? also, if the first one crits, all the following ones will crit as well (or at least this is what log says). throw in a bit of debuffs and, uh... imagine it with Axe + Rapier...
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Aug 19 2017, 23:15
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Uncle Stu
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Great. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Can someone of my italian nephews explain to me, how someone could become the idea uncle stu would be also an italian? Because i dont get it. I have no idea how that could happen.
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Aug 19 2017, 23:23
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Aug 19 2017, 23:15)  Great. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Can someone of my italian nephews explain to me, how someone could become the idea uncle stu would be also an italian? Because i dont get it. I have no idea how that could happen. probably they mistook the Prussian flag with... eh... uh... no clue (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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Aug 19 2017, 23:28
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Aug 19 2017, 23:26)  What prussian flag now? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) isn't that the prussian flag in your avatar?
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Aug 19 2017, 23:37
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Cleavs
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an eagle and some stripes? yes, it does (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) [edit]: btw, has that particular eagle always been germany's symbol? quite the long-lasting one... This post has been edited by Scremaz: Aug 19 2017, 23:46
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Aug 19 2017, 23:45
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Uncle Stu
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-.- Why not. You know what? I give up. I was allready taken for a french, a spanish, scotsman and even for a russian. That with the russian was even in real life, befor i could even speak a single word in russian, in my home village where my family just live since around 800 years. And today a italian and my avatar is even taken for the prussian flagg. But all that doesnt matter anymore.
As of now i am uncle stu a klingon from melmac. There, you made it. Happy now? -.- (S)
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Aug 20 2017, 00:11
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f4tal
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QUOTE That with the russian was even in real life, befor i could even speak a single word in russian, in my home village where my family just live since around 800 years. Rus: Если ты желаешь попрактиковать русский язык, то я к твоим услугам. Eng: If you want to practice Russian, I am at your service =) Our Russian coats of arms looks so close to Prussian's one (and Eastern Europe's dozens too)... At first sign I mistook picture above with Russian's one, despite the fact that this eagle has only one head xD QUOTE Being italian sure it's great laugh.gif L'Italia è la cosa migliore e basta =) This post has been edited by f4tal: Aug 20 2017, 00:15
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