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post Jul 26 2017, 19:47
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QUOTE(longwood @ Jul 26 2017, 14:24) *

someone trying to SCAM a newbie. I am newbie too but i have learn 1 or 2 thing in this game.

check it here. This kind of behaviour is so wrong. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
Could some higher up advice him (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)


Mhhh... yeah it looks like a scam... but for me it was more like my mistake:

I added that link instead of this one:

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/135937915/0a22e19544

Sorry... looks like according to this whole wall of accusations, now it isnt worth even 50k... an sorry it is true i didnt consider the soulfuse thing cost... my bad (not having the HV item manager working is pretty bad for me).

QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Jul 26 2017, 14:45) *

And thus, yet another Piyin Incident occurs...Honest mistake or malicious scam? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)


Decide yourself... im 100% inclinated to think you will pick one.

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 26 2017, 14:48) *

uhu. thank you for your report.
uhu. i'm curious to see what mr. i-sell-scraps-at-less-than-other-shops will say. until then, let's try to keep a polite mood.


you know... im pretty sure this post will be deleted and maybe the PM in FS account... but if you want a very convoluted explanation from someone that HAD STOLEN stuff here it goes:

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https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=3597929

1. Why (Scremaz)you're auctioning freeshop's equips?
2. Why (Scremaz)you'd need to action a Mag rapier, as I don't see it's overstocked? How are you guys making the decision? What's the procedure for doing so?

Scremaz here, opening this account (i guess for one of the last times) since i noticed the PM you sent me was forwarded. i'd really like for FS to be kept out of this if possible, since the said gear was found in my possession and i'm ready to take all the blame. currently trying to remember/rebuild what may have happened one month ago and i saw you read the mail i sent you, so i'd like to know your impressions until now


I also sent this to freeshop as I need to gather more information about the incident and check some of your practices to see if there's need for improvement.
The Freeshop is involved in the following issues:

1. How come a Mag etheral rapier of slaughter can be sold to the bazaar? FS need to have better control on this, as this impairs FS's reputation. Helpers will need to check before they sell the equips, possibly assisted by scripts (we definitely have scripts that alerts people when they're trying to sell equips).

2. If I remember correctly, helpers will need to log in separately. The issue here is that it's hard to believe a Mag ethereal rapier being thrown into bazaar for a few minutes without anyone picking it up. I don't have any good suggestion to this for now, other than reminding helpers to be more careful.

3. About 'If the item you donate qualifies for tickets but we feel we have an overstock of similar items, the ones we think have the worst stats will be sold either to the bazaar or at public auction'. Many questioned about the number of equips to be considered overstock. It would definitely be better if a definite number (like 20~30) is implemented here. If would also be better to remove the 'sold at public auction' part, because I don't really think freeshop would have unclaimed equips worthy to be auctioned.

Remember, I am not the only one who raised these questions. Players do appreciate your effort, but at the same time they also have high expectations on helpers. That's why I am sending this mail.

still Scremaz. if you agree with this, better to continue here so all other members can read this. obviously, a copy of these messages has been kept in sent mails so everyone can read it.

if someone isn't aware of what happened, i'll write a quick explanation: cicco donated a mag ethereal rapier of slaughter to FS, and this week the very same rapier (EIDs are the same) is/was being auctioned by komica with my name as IWer/seller. obviously he asked for the item to be immediately returned to him.
these are the facts known to everyone.

i checked the day the item was sold. it's the same day of my birthday (if strictly needed i could give you the address of my facebook page to confirm it, but you should believe that HV and FB account belong to the same person) and sadly in my home we all use a shared pc.
the only explanation i can think of is that i opened FS account for some maintenance, some friends came to greet me and i left the window open for some time. if no other staff person remember to have sold that rapier by mistake i guess it's my whole fault for having lost the control of the account and not having checked what happened while i was afk.

quite feeble explanation, and i know what people could have thought. obviously i wouldn't have ever done it if i knew it came from FS and yesterday i asked komica to remove the rapier from auction: he did it, and i think it's only waiting for other explanations before sending it again to cicco.
i'll take responsibility for what happened, since we're speaking of the time and efforts of many people and i troubled them: the least i can do for FS' reputation (and especially to not nullify the efforts of my fellows) is to publicly apologize and leave my place as a staff member.



QUOTE(The Original Zeo @ Jul 26 2017, 15:16) *

Still.... it's a nice sword for only 1m. My sword cost my 5m.


You were scamed... and i didnt. (just to make it sure)

QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Jul 26 2017, 15:56) *

No! We will be hostile! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Fan the flames, grab your pitchforks, burn the heretic! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

*beats drums*
*dum dum dum dum dum*


Hostile? NAH! i live with hostility against me almost 20 hrs at day... anything on this forum represent only 30mins of it... i can deal with it.

AND... as im pretty sure this will be deleted im gonna take a pic and save the page to be safe...

Also, again, IT WAS MY MISTAKE FOR SENDING THE WRONG EQUIPMENT LINK... IM SORRY!
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post Jul 26 2017, 20:36
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Your hand definitely is very, very clumsy. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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post Jul 26 2017, 20:53
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 26 2017, 20:36) *

Your hand definitely is very, very clumsy. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)


"Hands" i also tried to type with my toes... but not good.
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post Jul 26 2017, 20:54
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QUOTE(piyin @ Jul 26 2017, 19:47) *

Mhhh... yeah it looks like a scam... but for me it was more like my mistake:

I added that link instead of this one:

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/135937915/0a22e19544

Sorry... looks like according to this whole wall of accusations, now it isnt worth even 50k... an sorry it is true i didnt consider the soulfuse thing cost... my bad (not having the HV item manager working is pretty bad for me).

look, i'm fine with you ranting at me. or picking at me. somehow i'm even used to this and i can even bear with it if it means less dramas for the whole community. but don't take for fools the kind users here. you're a renowned shopkeeper, your shop started more than 3 years ago. if not the exact prices, you know less or more what can have value and whatnot.

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you know... im pretty sure this post will be deleted and maybe the PM in FS account... but if you want a very convoluted explanation from someone that HAD STOLEN stuff here it goes:

ah, yes, yes. that old story again. when you're in trouble you cannot help but using that, uh...
well, i don't really remember what i did 3 years ago, sorry. i cannot give a better explanation than that. but since the matter was never solved officially, i'm still positive about taking all the blame.
guess that all what i'm doing, first as a user, then by helping newbies and now by putting my credits available for people wanting to purchase gold stars or by trying to coordinate some things here isn't enough to wash that stain. ah, clumsiness isn't an excuse, i guess.
of course, my inbox is open for whoever wants to ask about this. in particular, if the administration thinks i'm not valid enough to continue my duties as a mod anymore, they just have to tell me.

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AND... as im pretty sure this will be deleted im gonna take a pic and save the page to be safe...

no, it won't be deleted. i'm not a dictator, like someone thinks.
quite funny though that you immediately came at me asking me to put apart our disagreements when you needed to reset the password.

but if you really like pics, uh... coming straight from FS account:

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i started to take screens of single MMs (from Cattura1 to Cattura9), then i got tired. i went with the inbox pages (the Cattura0 series), got tired again. if needed, i can continue.

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post Jul 26 2017, 21:14
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 26 2017, 20:54) *

look, i'm fine with you ranting at me. or picking at me. somehow i'm even used to this and i can even bear with it if it means less dramas for the whole community. but don't take for fools the kind users here. you're a renowned shopkeeper, you know less or more what can have value and whatnot.
ah, yes, yes. that old story again. when you're in trouble you cannot help but using that, uh...
well, i don't really remember what i did 3 years ago, sorry. i cannot give a better explanation than that. but since the matter was never solved officially, i'm still positive about taking all the blame.
guess that all what i'm doing, first as a user, then by helping newbies and now by putting my credits available for people wanting to purchase gold stars or by trying to coordinate some things here isn't enough to wash that stain. ah, clumsiness isn't an excuse, i guess.
of course, my inbox is open for whoever wants to ask about this.
and no, it won't be deleted. i'm not a dictator, like someone thinks.
quite funny though that you immediately came at me asking me to put apart our disagreements when you needed to reset the password.

but if you really like pics, uh... coming straight from FS account:

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i started to take pics of MMs, then i got tired. i went with the inbox pages, got tired again. but if needed, i can continue.


Yep! every single Pic is right: Had to do this to AVOID money being taken away for someone with a very "bad record" of taking thing from Freeshop... The money is right here at my account and CAN BE RETURNED ANY TIME... But i dont need to do a very complx explanation of why i take it... more like im just keep it away from very complex explanations.

Also, Im glad you just took your time to look at Freeshop... After 2 years of absence.. and yt had the balls to came some months ago to say "I wont be helping here for the time being"... when you never did anything on the project in more than 1 year...

Primo!.

Edit: Also, some of the materials there where from the shrined trophies i was sending to freeshop a while ago... want some evidence?

Look at Freeshop lists: almost everything with level 42 or lower exquisites of so are from trophies i got/bought and shrined in FS... why? to have stuff to give for free on the shop.

now im just fearing all of those could dissapear just to make me look worst... you know... "with mod power".

EDIT2: Also, i did take those to pay taylia for the old script (sadly the new update came when we were almost ending the testing... but he/she work on it diligent and had to be pay for it):

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But netherless, if you wanna brag about the money and materials, its ok... already back in Freeshop.

along with a bunch of bindings and other stuff i dont use in my inventory... like almost every week donation i do.

Also:
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uhu. i'm curious to see what mr. i-sell-scraps-at-less-than-other-shops will say. until then, let's try to keep a polite mood.


Keep intigating the bullying: it was a mistake, but you just had to bring that out... not the "you sell stuff at higher price at your shop" post with a long hilarous add on on it but that also was deleted with the mod power...

I miss Varst, at least he never deleted his shit when he messed up.


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post Jul 26 2017, 21:16
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.......
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post Jul 26 2017, 21:32
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you're hopeless. and also not as smart as you think.

QUOTE(piyin @ Dec 20 2013, 18:38) *

Piyin's Shop

(Phase of Niflheim-14)Magnificent Jade Phase Gloves of Niflheim(36) 21k
(Phase of Freyr-27)Exquisite Onyx Phase Robe of Freyr(36) 5k
NEW (Phase of Freyr - 28)Legendary Frugal Phase Pants of Freyr(41, EDB 65%, Int 56%, Evd 89%, Pmit 81%) 350k
(Phase of Mjolnir-33)Exquisite Ruby Phase Robe of Mjolnir(36) 5k

QUOTE(piyin @ Dec 20 2013, 18:39) *

(Phase of Heimdall-11)Exquisite Phase Shoes of Heimdall(36) 5k
(Phase of Fenrir-13)Exquisite Phase Robe of Fenrir(36) 5k


now, if i remember correctly trophies from shrine always have 100% condition...

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post Jul 26 2017, 21:54
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 26 2017, 21:32) *

you're hopeless. and also not as smart as you think.


Yep those where good shrine stuff, i just wanted them... and yes those where my shrined trophies.

Want me to add all the donations of trophies i did to keep alive Freeshop?
When some ppl just bail out of the project?

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Also:

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ah, yes, yes. that old story again. when you're in trouble you cannot help but using that, uh..


No im not using that when im in trouble... im just using it whrn you just pin out

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"ah, yes, yes. that old story again."


how many days have to be something to be ol long story?

I just did forgot the wrong information you were spreading about something related to my BAN... and yet you bring the old "scrap" story back.

Oh yeah... we both think in the past... it was beautifull then... Freeshop Pal (good cop). (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jul 26 2017, 22:16
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oh no, i cause a ruckuss (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)
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post Jul 26 2017, 22:22
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Okay guys - take a breath and count to ten.

...


There are other people here, so please, no shouting. Especially not in green. Green shouting is the worst. Please refrain from green shouting in the forums.

We all make mistakes. Hell, I even expunged a gallery wrongfully! But there need to be rules. And we need a mod.

So, if someone done something wrong 3 years ago, can he not be a mod? I say we trust the judgement of Admin and we look at the actions of recent times. Who cares about 3 years ago? So please stop dissing our mod.

FreeSHop is closed anyway. Shouldn't we just kill the account? There are enough high-rollers with free give-away service nowadays. There will always be a gray area of what is ethical with multiple accounting. And now with only one FS-owner, there is no second pair of eyes. That's just not a good situation.

And I understand that you can send the wrong link. But you could have used Super's percentage script, that's freely available in the thread that you visit frequently. And then the other link is just as wrong - way too high level. If the player would have bought it, he/she would be set back considerably. We want to help lower level players, not set them back. I can understand that some people would call that scamming.

Now we need some moderation here, I say.
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post Jul 26 2017, 22:22
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Before the thread gets derailed even more

QUOTE(piyin @ Jul 26 2017, 19:47) *

I added that link instead of this one:

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/135937915/0a22e19544

Sorry... looks like according to this whole wall of accusations, now it isnt worth even 50k... an sorry it is true i didnt consider the soulfuse thing cost... my bad (not having the HV item manager working is pretty bad for me).

It's still level 476, so pretty much useless for low level players.
(and its true value is closer to 50-100k, the level is too high, pretty much all lvl >400 players already have an average/good rapier)
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post Jul 26 2017, 22:23
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 27 2017, 00:30) *

the quick math are relative to forge and IW, and changes *your* rapier from 60.61 to 49.5.
Butcher adds +2% ADB per level. you have Butcher 5, which means +10% overall. or 1.1x multiplier, if you prefer.
ADB forged to lv 5 gives a further 1.113x multiplier. check the logarithmic formula on wiki.

divide your 60.61 first by 1.1, then by 1.113 and you'll earn that 49.5



Oh, I didn't know forging and IW were multiplicative (I thought they were additive). So where do you get the 60.61 for my rapier?

I really need to set up a spreadsheet on the computer at work to work out all these figures for me :/
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post Jul 26 2017, 22:24
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QUOTE(longwood @ Jul 26 2017, 22:16) *

oh no, i cause a ruckuss (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

you reported a thing. i may have handled it better. that's all.
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post Jul 26 2017, 22:27
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jul 26 2017, 22:22) *

Okay guys - take a breath and count to ten.

...
There are other people here, so please, no shouting. Especially not in green. Green shouting is the worst. Please refrain from green shouting in the forums.

We all make mistakes. Hell, I even expunged a gallery wrongfully! But there need to be rules. And we need a mod.

So, if someone done something wrong 3 years ago, can he not be a mod? I say we trust the judgement of Admin and we look at the actions of recent times. Who cares about 3 years ago? So please stop dissing our mod.

FreeSHop is closed anyway. Shouldn't we just kill the account? There are enough high-rollers with free give-away service nowadays. There will always be a gray area of what is ethical with multiple accounting. And now with only one FS-owner, there is no second pair of eyes. That's just not a good situation.

And I understand that you can send the wrong link. But you could have used Super's percentage script, that's freely available in the thread that you visit frequently. And then the other link is just as wrong - way too high level. If the player would have bought it, he/she would be set back considerably. We want to help lower level players, not set them back. I can understand that some people would call that scamming.

Now we need some moderation here, I say.


Agree with most of the post.

Just answer this question with a YES or NO:

Should we just KILL FRESSHOP?

Note: Freeshop has been closed for 1 month... is that the needed time of innactivity to close an account? YES/NO

Note2: not hostile... just want to know.


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post Jul 26 2017, 22:28
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jul 26 2017, 22:22) *

Now we need some moderation here, I say.

calling for it. btw, joe already read this, since i saw him before. i wouldn't be surprised if somewhere, things are already being discussed.
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post Jul 26 2017, 22:30
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QUOTE(piyin @ Jul 26 2017, 22:27) *

Agree with most of the post.

Just answer this question with a YES or NO:

Should we just KILL FRESSHOP?

Note: Freeshop has been closed for 1 month... is that the needed time of innactivity to close an account? YES/NO

Note2: not hostile... just want to know.


yes
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post Jul 26 2017, 22:34
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jul 26 2017, 22:30) *

yes


EVEN IF IT TAKE ME MORE THAN 2 HRS...

FREESHOP WILL BE REOPENED IN A FEW HRS!!!

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QUOTE(piyin @ Jul 26 2017, 22:34) *

EVEN IF IT TAKE ME MORE THAN 2 HRS...

FREESHOP WILL BE REOPENED IN A FEW HRS!!!


tip: check your capslock. You're shouting again.

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post Jul 26 2017, 22:43
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jul 26 2017, 22:36) *

tip: check your capslock. You're shouting again.


Woops! sorry...

Whispering *freshop wil reopen to avoid being eliminated*
...
*even when the rules states that most account can be still working after 1 year of innactivity, according to 10B*



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post Jul 26 2017, 22:45
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QUOTE(piyin @ Jul 26 2017, 22:43) *

Woops! sorry...

Whispering *freshop wil reopen to avoid being eliminated*
...
*even when the rules states that most account can be still working after 1 year of innactivity, according to 10B*



I was referring to the first question. The one you wanted a clear yes or no to.
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