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post Jul 6 2017, 19:49
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jul 6 2017, 19:42) *

Right. Right. Okay. Let's say, if after one week there's no clear difference, I may consider doing a second run FSM with some mediocre gear. I have a mediocre LARD and non radiant Niflheims in abundance.

thank you. not that i want to harass you in particular or something, but:
1. afaik, you're the only cold mage that answered. so i *have* to rely on your datas (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
2. other users have more limited fluctuations, thus more visible spikes. of course it's too early to speak, but that's an option
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post Jul 6 2017, 20:12
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I would recommend not changing any thing this week. If after a full week of data we still can't figure it out then we can change stuff.
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post Jul 7 2017, 05:45
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dark mage 150 1796turns

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post Jul 7 2017, 06:41
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Wind, all PFUDOR
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          Tue     Wed     Thu     Fri
  FSM     106     107      99      95
  150    2564    2625    2520    2614
  125    1758    1750    1627    1713
  110    1177    1211    1129    1183
  100     604     588     563     590
   90     529     519     509     513
   80     498     504     496     493

Thursday is a tiny bit lower, but not enough to say for certain.
I think I can say for certain is that FSM is too short to be a useful data point on it's own, I'll still record it as recording it only takes a second.
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post Jul 7 2017, 09:37
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Friday
DWD - clicked it away before looking...
FSM 72 turns

mediocre LARD + non-radiant
Longest Journey (55 round) 414 turns


I don't think this is going to work guys. With my half-good gear I still kill all in 2-4 rounds after imperil. Maybe I should use my 1h mage gear one week? Far less cold damage, but then the waki will parry. And I don't want to spend hours on one arena, so maybe only the 55 round arena? Any suggestions?

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post Jul 7 2017, 12:31
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QUOTE(sigo8 @ Jul 7 2017, 06:41) *

Wind, all PFUDOR
CODE
          Tue     Wed     Thu     Fri
  FSM     106     107      99      95
  150    2564    2625    2520    2614
  125    1758    1750    1627    1713
  110    1177    1211    1129    1183
  100     604     588     563     590
   90     529     519     509     513
   80     498     504     496     493

Thursday is a tiny bit lower, but not enough to say for certain.
I think I can say for certain is that FSM is too short to be a useful data point on it's own, I'll still record it as recording it only takes a second.

about FSM: i agree. an eventual bonus will be surely eaten by daily fluctuations
about Thu: i expected something like a 150~200 turns difference, tbh. are your prof all maxed or still growing?

QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jul 7 2017, 09:37) *

Friday
DWD - clicked it away before looking...
FSM 72 turns

mediocre LARD + non-radiant
Longest Journey (55 round) 414 turns
I don't think this is going to work guys. With my half-good gear I still kill all in 2-4 rounds after imperil. Maybe I should use my 1h mage gear one week? Far less cold damage, but then the waki will parry. And I don't want to spend hours on one arena, so maybe only the 55 round arena? Any suggestions?

hmm... continue to track like usual. eventually we'll find a few days and in the worst case you'll have to retry with a sub-optimal build only a small amount of times.

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post Jul 7 2017, 12:58
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 7 2017, 12:31) *

about Thu: i expected something like a 150~200 turns difference, tbh. are your prof all maxed or still growing?

Depends on his prof.
Let's say he has 0.7.
Mitigation reduction with imperil + 0.7 prof is 69.2
Total remaining SG mitigation = 5.8

5.8 damage increase probably results in around a bit more than half the reduction in turns (overdamage, imperil and cure staying the same etc etc).
So, for a full DWD run it would be around 2600*0.03 = 78 turns reduction or something like that.
Given that Konata already has -1 mit to wind the number should be reduced a bit more (to around 60?).
Analyzing the result he posted and considering ~2610 as average the 2520 result could be well explained by the mitigation result.
Since the difference is very small to be absolutely certain we probably need a couple weeks of data (anyway, since he got the smallest number of turn on Thursday in 5 arenas out of 6 I would say that it's very likely that it's the wind day).

Ideally to get a better idea the runs should be done without prof cottons.
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post Jul 7 2017, 13:16
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jul 7 2017, 12:58) *

Depends on his prof.
Let's say he has 0.7.
Mitigation reduction with imperil + 0.7 prof is 69.2
Total remaining SG mitigation = 5.8

5.8 damage increase probably results in around a bit more than half the reduction in turns (overdamage, imperil and cure staying the same etc etc).
So, for a full DWD run it would be around 2600*0.03 = 78 turns reduction or something like that.
Given that Konata already has -1 mit to wind the number should be reduced a bit more (to around 60?).
Analyzing the result he posted and considering ~2610 as average the 2520 result could be well explained by the mitigation result.
Since the difference is very small to be absolutely certain we probably need a couple weeks of data (anyway, since he got the smallest number of turn on Thursday in 5 arenas out of 6 I would say that it's very likely that it's the wind day).

Ideally to get a better idea the runs should be done without prof cottons.

so, the higher the prof, the lower the buff, uh? another thing to consider then...
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post Jul 7 2017, 13:26
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post Jul 7 2017, 13:28
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post Jul 7 2017, 16:45
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post Jul 7 2017, 16:51
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post Jul 7 2017, 22:25
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I got news about my own serious connection stability issues, and I really think that what I'm about to state might interest some people around here.

It seems that since some time my connection to e-hentai and hentaiverse is done through IPv6 from end to end, instead of IPv4. And of course, I had the default settings for IPv6 in my network card. More importantly: default DNS provider settings. Which means, it was using my ISP's settings. And knowing how my country ISP's are quite assholes regarding what we should browse and what we shouldn't...

Sell, to sum it up: I've set up the OpenDNS IPv6 settings on my card (2620:0:ccc::2 and 2620:0:ccd::2), and now I'm BLASTING my way in HV with 3/4 turns per sec.

So there we are: DNS settings are very, very, utterly important.

The quality of my browsing on the entire domain also got sped up a lot aswell.

PS:
FUCK YOU, French ISPs, with your shitty lying DNS.

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post Jul 8 2017, 02:17
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post Jul 8 2017, 06:02
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post Jul 8 2017, 11:27
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updated again. there's a chance that Firday is Dark's day...
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post Jul 8 2017, 11:50
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No data for today. I messed up turn counter (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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post Jul 8 2017, 12:00
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QUOTE(SleepDealer @ Jul 8 2017, 12:50) *

No data for today. I messed up turn counter (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)


Wow, monsterbation or standalone?
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post Jul 8 2017, 12:08
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QUOTE(SleepDealer @ Jul 8 2017, 11:50) *

No data for today. I messed up turn counter (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

well, according to Trifle's datas today's performance were comparable with thursday's, so you should've ended in the 2800~2850 range.

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post Jul 8 2017, 12:24
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Jul 8 2017, 15:00) *

Wow, monsterbation or standalone?

Monsterbation, nothing to worry about. It`s because of alternation between alt version and standard site.

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