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post Jun 2 2017, 13:57
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QUOTE(morineko @ Jun 2 2017, 10:29) *

Guessing time (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jun 2 2017, 10:37) *

Big news! Huge news!

all of you, take that with a grain of salt. maybe two.
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post Jun 2 2017, 14:01
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Patch ll contain few things:
1. New gears. Basically all old equipment is just bad, so new ll be double stats.
2. Few styles are just way too op, so mages ll be nerfed in twice and same for 1h. Instead 2h style ll be get triple buff.
3. New pot system. Unlimited use is also op, so now it ll be only single use per run with 3 slots max.
4. Few new perks including no-puzzle option.
5. Monsters now ll get back adrenaline buff, so with lower amount of hp they ll get more powerful attacks.
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post Jun 2 2017, 14:14
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QUOTE(Stulpen @ Jun 1 2017, 18:18) *

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) I dont get it. Why would you play drunk? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


Just jumping on that bourbon. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

New update coming? Any new perks? Anyone know?

Let the wild speculation begin. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jun 2 2017, 14:16
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QUOTE(RoadShoe @ Jun 2 2017, 14:14) *

Let the wild speculation begin. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

seems so... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Jun 2 2017, 14:25
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jun 2 2017, 12:01) *

Patch ll contain few things:
1. New gears. Basically all old equipment is just bad, so new ll be double stats.
2. Few styles are just way too op, so mages ll be nerfed in twice and same for 1h. Instead 2h style ll be get triple buff.
3. New pot system. Unlimited use is also op, so now it ll be only single use per run with 3 slots max.

(IMG:[u.nya.is] https://u.nya.is/oxgktm.jpg)

YAMERO!!
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post Jun 2 2017, 14:40
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QUOTE(RoadShoe @ Jun 2 2017, 14:14) *

Just jumping on that bourbon. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


(IMG:[s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com] https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/76/17/18/7617183791624af8ac266a456f10be17.jpg)
What a guy.

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post Jun 2 2017, 16:54
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jun 2 2017, 21:01) *

Patch ll contain few things:
1. New gears. Basically all old equipment is just bad, so new ll be double stats.
2. Few styles are just way too op, so mages ll be nerfed in twice and same for 1h. Instead 2h style ll be get triple buff.
3. New pot system. Unlimited use is also op, so now it ll be only single use per run with 3 slots max.
4. Few new perks including no-puzzle option.
5. Monsters now ll get back adrenaline buff, so with lower amount of hp they ll get more powerful attacks.


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post Jun 2 2017, 17:03
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rain of figurines in bazaar:

8x Trixie Figurine
7x Cheerilee Figurine
8x Vinyl Scratch Figurine
7x Bon-Bon Figurine
7x Gummy Figurine
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post Jun 2 2017, 17:18
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 2 2017, 18:03) *

rain of figurines in bazaar:

8x Trixie Figurine
7x Cheerilee Figurine
8x Vinyl Scratch Figurine
7x Bon-Bon Figurine
7x Gummy Figurine

They are not worth buying from Bazaar, but since they sell for 10k, it's a very close call whether you want to shrine them or Bazaar them. I would probably go with the shrine gamble and hope for good Bindings and HGC/HGW. Maybe if I had really bad shrine luck I would Bazaar the rest of them.
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post Jun 2 2017, 17:43
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QUOTE(Logii @ Jun 2 2017, 17:18) *

They are not worth buying from Bazaar, but since they sell for 10k, it's a very close call whether you want to shrine them or Bazaar them. I would probably go with the shrine gamble and hope for good Bindings and HGC/HGW. Maybe if I had really bad shrine luck I would Bazaar the rest of them.

well, some players who don't use the forum may not know it. actual value 25k, bazaar value 50k. still not that bad of a purchase for someone who don't interact with other people.

either way, this is the situation now:

2x Trixie Figurine
4x Cheerilee Figurine
4x Vinyl Scratch Figurine
5x Bon-Bon Figurine
1x Gummy Figurine
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post Jun 2 2017, 18:04
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 2 2017, 18:43) *

well, some players who don't use the forum may not know it. actual value 25k, bazaar value 50k. still not that bad of a purchase for someone who don't interact with other people.

Speaking of the actual value of Figurines, has anyone done research on the shrine value of Figurines? I would be interested to know what kind of materials you are expected to get from shrining Figurines on average. With that information it would be possible to set a price for them for shrining use rather than OFC use (which will inevitably increase the prices a bit).

I suppose the problem is that even the most hardcore grinders probably don't have enough Figurine drops to get a large enough sample size (at least ~500, preferably 1000+) and with the OFC inflated price it's probably not worth buying them for shrining either. Also material prices are constantly changing, which would change the expected profit too (but not the expected materials).

Some hath baron should buy 1k Figurines and post shrining resutls for them (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

At least I could sell my duplicates for the Bazaar price for example, for a greater cause.
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post Jun 2 2017, 18:21
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finally got my 1H prof to 201 after ~1 week grinding... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
the heavy and supportive prof also close to catch up, with 10 and 16 point left each...
but I don't know how to grind supportive prof efficiently...
tried to spam cure and protection, my mana already depleted when even draught still at 40 turn left...
maybe I'll ignore the supportive prof, better to grind the heavy one first before lvling up again... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Jun 2 2017, 18:49
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QUOTE(Logii @ Jun 2 2017, 18:04) *

Speaking of the actual value of Figurines, has anyone done research on the shrine value of Figurines? I would be interested to know what kind of materials you are expected to get from shrining Figurines on average. With that information it would be possible to set a price for them for shrining use rather than OFC use (which will inevitably increase the prices a bit).

I suppose the problem is that even the most hardcore grinders probably don't have enough Figurine drops to get a large enough sample size (at least ~500, preferably 1000+) and with the OFC inflated price it's probably not worth buying them for shrining either. Also material prices are constantly changing, which would change the expected profit too (but not the expected materials).

Some hath baron should buy 1k Figurines and post shrining resutls for them (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

At least I could sell my duplicates for the Bazaar price for example, for a greater cause.

afaik, anything ranging from a binding of slaughter + 3 HGC to a bindings of wind-waker and a couple LGC. a gamble like precursors' one.
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post Jun 2 2017, 18:51
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QUOTE(Greshnik @ Jun 2 2017, 18:21) *

better to grind the heavy one first before lvling up again... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Don't grind prof at your level, it's a waste of time.
Grinding prof is only justified for lvl 300+, and only for unused styles or prof that don't naturally raise during normal gameplay (I'm looking at you, staff prof).
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post Jun 2 2017, 18:53
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Which wakizashi suffix is best for just offensive? Balance or Slaughter?

I think it's Balance by the max offhand strike chance and extra crits? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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post Jun 2 2017, 19:04
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jun 2 2017, 23:51) *

Don't grind prof at your level, it's a waste of time.
Grinding prof is only justified for lvl 300+, and only for unused styles or prof that don't naturally raise during normal gameplay (I'm looking at you, staff prof).


but the wiki says that your prof gain is much greater before lv. 250... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
also I grinding prof because I only started switching playstyles from DW light to 1H heavy (before grind my prof are 0-10 for 1H and Heavy)...
so I thought why not grind now before I completely switching style... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Jun 2 2017, 19:05
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QUOTE(morineko @ Jun 2 2017, 18:53) *

Which wakizashi suffix is best for just offensive? Balance or Slaughter?

I think it's Balance by the max offhand strike chance and extra crits? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

DW offhand? if yes, you may indeed want to try balance.
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post Jun 2 2017, 19:41
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 2 2017, 10:49) *

afaik, anything ranging from a binding of slaughter + 3 HGC to a bindings of wind-waker and a couple LGC. a gamble like precursors' one.

The mats can only be high grade. The ratio should be 2:1:1:1, like the monster lab.
With Wood as 10k and Cloth as 20k and ignorimg metal, leather and binding, that gives an average 18k with low variance.


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post Jun 2 2017, 19:47
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QUOTE(morineko @ Jun 2 2017, 12:53) *

Which wakizashi suffix is best for just offensive? Balance or Slaughter?

I think it's Balance by the max offhand strike chance and extra crits? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)


I'm a big supporter of offhand balance. The 100% offhand strike and crit rate helps a lot more than, say, extra parry, especially since the patch where everything other than slaughter got buffed a lot. Also synergises well with light armor abilities (Light Crit).
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post Jun 2 2017, 20:11
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QUOTE(sigo8 @ Jun 2 2017, 19:41) *

The mats can only be high grade. The ratio should be 2:1:1:1, like the monster lab.

really? quite interesting.

QUOTE(Drksrpnt @ Jun 2 2017, 19:47) *

I'm a big supporter of offhand balance. The 100% offhand strike and crit rate helps a lot more than, say, extra parry, especially since the patch where everything other than slaughter got buffed a lot. Also synergises well with light armor abilities (Light Crit).

more likely, for how much parry is useful i guess you can afford to lose a bit of that at high levels, especially if your evade is high enough. it all depends whether you value 2 Crit more than 15 Parry or something like that... as for offhand strike, well - does 90 vs 100% make that big of a difference?
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