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Mar 15 2017, 19:51
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kyouri
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(Epion @ Mar 16 2017, 04:43)  Up to now i was actually feeding them pills right before they hit yellow so around the 5900-5950. Was pondering for quite some time if it was the case to actually wait for them to hit yellow before doing so. I think the time has come.
Same here, not that I have enough monsters to matter (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)
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Mar 15 2017, 20:53
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Maximum_Joe
Group: Gold Star Club
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You can feed them at any time as long as it's higher than 0 morale you don't lose out on any gifts.
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Mar 15 2017, 21:05
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Mar 15 2017, 19:53)  You can feed them at any time as long as it's higher than 0 morale you don't lose out on any gifts.
of course. but yep, i noted as well that when the mob goes from yellow to green bar there's a certain chance to bring out a gift - low, but there is. this, together with the amount of morale restored are good enough reasons for me to wait for the yellow bar before feeding. food, definitely when it's still in the green bar.
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Mar 15 2017, 22:08
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nec1986
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Im not sure about that trigger. Does that mean win in battle can be without gift? So few monsters won in yellow bar and roll said "no, not this time", but after feeding monster got bonus chance and as result gave gift?
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Mar 15 2017, 22:39
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Mar 15 2017, 21:08)  Im not sure about that trigger. Does that mean win in battle can be without gift?
according to my experience, yes. only things granted are the 3-days gifts. for all the others, there are only fair chances. QUOTE(nec1986 @ Mar 15 2017, 21:08)  but after feeding monster got bonus chance and as result gave gift?
as i said, there's a chance for this to happen. but since you still have to feed a pill and only unknown is *when* to do it, it's worth the gamble. [edit]: now that i think about it, there *may* be a difference between feeding at 6000 remaining and 5999 remaining morale. only my guess though. This post has been edited by Scremaz: Mar 15 2017, 22:41
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Mar 15 2017, 23:05
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Tenboro

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The monster gift periods are deterministic, the only randomness involved is what items you get. And there is a difference between green and yellow morale, but it's much less significant than yellow to red.
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Mar 15 2017, 23:12
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nec1986
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What if i dont feed monster 3 days, it gives me 3days gift and i pill him from red-yellow to greeen? Wll that be same as pill him without any delays?
This post has been edited by nec1986: Mar 15 2017, 23:12
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Mar 15 2017, 23:17
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Cleavs
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so basically to have more chances of gifts i should become a sadic bastard who enjoys when his mobs are sad? poor things! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Mar 15 2017, 23:34
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Tenboro

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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Mar 15 2017, 22:12)  What if i dont feed monster 3 days, it gives me 3days gift and i pill him from red-yellow to greeen? Wll that be same as pill him without any delays? If you pop a happy pill on a monster that brings it from red/yellow to green and get a gift, you would have gotten it anyway if it was green to begin with. The only difference is that if you kept it at green, you might have gotten it (and started the timer for the next one) sooner.
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Mar 15 2017, 23:51
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cmos
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Mar 16 2017, 00:05)  The monster gift periods are deterministic, the only randomness involved is what items you get. And there is a difference between green and yellow morale, but it's much less significant than yellow to red.
IIRC it was said that the number of gifts is a float and gets rounded when you check the lab, right? Can you lose gifts due to rounding if you check the lab too often? Is it safe to check several times or better just once per day?
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Mar 15 2017, 23:56
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Mar 15 2017, 22:34)  If you pop a happy pill on a monster that brings it from red/yellow to green and get a gift, you would have gotten it anyway if it was green to begin with. The only difference is that if you kept it at green, you might have gotten it (and started the timer for the next one) sooner.
which is like saying that yellow bar somehow freezes timer and morale should always be green as well, right?
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Mar 15 2017, 23:58
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 15 2017, 21:56)  which is like saying that yellow bar somehow freezes timer and morale should always be green as well, right? Since there is still a chance of getting gifts at yellow, until shown otherwise I would think the timer is slowed in some way, but not stopped. (but yes, you would prefer to keep bar green as much as possible) This post has been edited by Superlatanium: Mar 16 2017, 00:03
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Mar 16 2017, 01:05
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-Shun-
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Thanks guys (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Think I'll just let it go yellow since I'm not really active these days to care about getting gifts on time. I've come to that point in HV where I just log in to check on my monsters (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) Might need to actually buy happy pills like Chraunzen D:
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Mar 16 2017, 01:20
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Tenboro

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QUOTE(cmos @ Mar 15 2017, 22:51)  IIRC it was said that the number of gifts is a float and gets rounded when you check the lab, right? Can you lose gifts due to rounding if you check the lab too often? Is it safe to check several times or better just once per day? When calculating the number of gifts, it applies a fairly large random +/- offset to the timer to prevent any significant rounding effects.
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Mar 16 2017, 20:10
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Basara Nekki
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This appeared today: QUOTE Kinoshitamikoto Cio casts OMAE HA KUBI DA, and hits you for 840 fire damage (50% resisted) Japanese: OMAE HA KUBI DA English: YOU'RE FIRED Note:QUOTE (50% resisted) Question: I was fired or not? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Mar 16 2017, 20:36
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Mar 16 2017, 19:10)  This appeared today: Japanese: OMAE HA KUBI DA English: YOU'RE FIRED Note:Question: I was fired or not? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Half fired. Now you can work part-time
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Mar 16 2017, 20:42
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Mar 16 2017, 19:36)  QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Mar 16 2017, 19:10)  This appeared today: Japanese: OMAE HA KUBI DA English: YOU'RE FIRED Note:Question: I was fired or not? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Half fired. Now you can work part-time (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Mar 16 2017, 23:56
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-Shun-
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Mar 17 2017, 02:36)  Half fired. Now you can work part-time
Or demoted to unpaid intern (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Mar 17 2017, 10:03
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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I'm so glad that the Peerless Charged Phase Pants of Niflheim in Super's auction is already at 55m! I could never have afforded that! That means no regrets. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) By the way, my radiant pants have improved my clear speed of arena's considerably. I like them. I still die sometimes in the last 200 rounds of pffest. 2 solutions: 1. vase or gum 2. IWfest. Both work fine for me.
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