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post Mar 5 2017, 01:10
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 4 2017, 16:05) *

if you do, please pm me before starting. i have a favor to ask you.

The favor you want is kind of obvious.
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post Mar 5 2017, 01:57
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QUOTE(sigo8 @ Mar 5 2017, 00:10) *

The favor you want is kind of obvious.

of course. just for you to know, i'm in beta test phase. just the time to re-arrange the interface a bit, move all the sensible math in one spreadsheet only and i may realease a public version. beta testers highly appreciated (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Mar 7 2017, 19:47
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Legendary Charged Phase Cap of Niflheim

Jug 3

Wish me luck!
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post Mar 7 2017, 19:54
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Mar 7 2017, 17:47) *

Very promising start, good luck! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Mar 7 2017, 19:59
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QUOTE(End Of All Hope @ Mar 4 2017, 16:09) *

I don't think there will be a quality beyond peerless. It would defy the peerless' having all the stats maxed.
Tweaking the ranges maybe.
Special upgrades maybe.
But a new quality...no.


Geez. No love for new and exciting things. Just because they were without peer doesn't mean a new thing can come in and take its place. Happens all the time. Competition.

With your line of logic range tweaking is also impossible due to the nerf mentality. If something got buffed in a patch then everything before it gets nerfed by proxy. Also old peerless might not be peerless anymore. And existing equipment does not get tweaked (difficult with existing structure according to tenboro).

Peerless doesn't need to stay that way forever. It could be peerless for the time and still *max roll*, new ones could be max roll multiplied by a coolness factor like how ex/mag/legendary used to be.

Maybe if I Crack quality tenboro and snowflake will reward me with a change like this.

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post Mar 7 2017, 20:10
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Well, I didn't exactly say that.
I said: if new higher ranges will come in the next patches, flawless pieces will always be called "Peerless", and have all the stats maxed in their current ranges, and max PxP.

A new quality would have sense if only "Legendary" gear existed as a cap, and even if you could, by luck, get all the L stats maxed in it, the item would be still called "Legendary".

We already have the cap quality.
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post Mar 7 2017, 20:16
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Mar 7 2017, 18:47) *


Jug 4!
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post Mar 7 2017, 20:19
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Tenboro can't change existing peerless easily if ranges edge higher though unless he has changed things
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post Mar 7 2017, 20:25
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Mar 7 2017, 19:16) *

Jug 4!


Got it! Soulfused for the other 4. Then a quick salvage of my fugral cap and I'm good to go!
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post Mar 7 2017, 20:27
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Mar 7 2017, 18:25) *

Got it! Soulfused for the other 4. Then a quick salvage of my fugral cap and I'm good to go!


Grats how many trys?
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post Mar 7 2017, 22:22
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QUOTE(skillchip @ Mar 7 2017, 19:27) *

Grats how many trys?


only 6 amnesia's used! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Mar 8 2017, 00:08
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gratz noni. that's a pretty nice set of potency rolls =)

pft peergendary ftw
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post Mar 8 2017, 00:48
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Seems like I'm the only one that doesn't buy back old equipments after salvaging (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Also DJ, you still have the old cap in your signature (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Mar 8 2017, 00:59
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QUOTE(End Of All Hope @ Mar 7 2017, 17:48) *

Seems like I'm the only one that doesn't buy back old equipments after salvaging (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Also DJ, you still have the old cap in your signature (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

haven't thought about that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
but salvaged equipment would be untradeable anyway, but it's nice to see that's an option

DJ, how much did the cap cost you back?
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post Mar 8 2017, 01:08
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QUOTE(yami_zetsu @ Mar 7 2017, 23:59) *

haven't thought about that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
but salvaged equipment would be untradeable anyway, but it's nice to see that's an option

DJ, how much did the cap cost you back?

300k+ probably
Power and Shade cost around that.

Anyway, to see the buy back price of something you have, it's simple.
Fully repair it.
Unequip and unlock it.
Go to bazaar and see how much it offers.
Multiply by 25.
Here's the buy back price.


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post Mar 8 2017, 04:03
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Mar 7 2017, 12:22) *

only 6 amnesia's used! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


That's phenomenal... Congrats! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Mar 8 2017, 11:50
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QUOTE(yami_zetsu @ Mar 7 2017, 23:59) *

haven't thought about that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
but salvaged equipment would be untradeable anyway, but it's nice to see that's an option

DJ, how much did the cap cost you back?

325k

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post Mar 9 2017, 04:12
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QUOTE(skillchip @ Mar 7 2017, 17:59) *
Geez. No love for new and exciting things. Just because they were without peer doesn't mean a new thing can come in and take its place. Happens all the time. Competition.
Yeah. I do think that Peerlesses are somewhat too common nowadays and a "super-peerless" of sorts isn't a terrible idea, that way there is a gear type whose stat range is genuinely rare. But a significant issue here is power creep. Making players stronger (via better gear quality) just for the sake of it probably isn't a great idea, but when adjustment patches come out, sometimes ranges have to be tweaked, and players may complain if they don't find themselves better off. (maybe, if gear ranges get tweaked, tweak monster stats as well to keep up?)

Another issue is gear rarity. Nowadays, high quality gear of pretty much every type is relatively common. High level players (450+) very rarely replace their great gears, but may get drops of high quality gears every so often. (or, what used to be high quality gears, until their overabundance killed their value) Perhaps solid great gears should be rare enough to be pretty difficult to acquire, even for high level players.

A related problem is that once something is released, such as quality X+ gears, it's quite hard to ever go below that in the future without massive riots.
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post Mar 9 2017, 12:47
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How much is the highest IW record?
This staff is too cursed.....
Got 5Spe+4Pen twice, and 5Spe+3Pen once
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post Mar 9 2017, 13:32
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QUOTE(morineko @ Mar 9 2017, 11:47) *

How much is the highest IW record?

For 5+4 it's probably this one.
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