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Yep... Stick a fork in me.

I'm done.

wasn't it a staff before?

wasn't it a staff before?

A huge hoof. Right in the side of my head. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

At 1kk+ tickets, I don't see how anyone can feel confident buying into the lottery. A full commit 19,900 tickets + GLT gives you a 4% at best and most likely less as a large majority will also have GLTs.

At 1kk+ tickets, I don't see how anyone can feel confident buying into the lottery. A full commit 19,900 tickets + GLT gives you a 4% at best and most likely less as a large majority will also have GLTs.

Thank you for your wisdom.
I'll pass it on to NGS mklopp with his 100 Non-GLT ticket buy in, and the NGS winner before him.

Logic does not make a tail wag.

Let me look behind me and check. Nope... Tail ain't wagging.

At 1kk+ tickets, I don't see how anyone can feel confident buying into the lottery. A full commit 19,900 tickets + GLT gives you a 4% at best and most likely less as a large majority will also have GLTs.

S-surely if you buy 20k tickets for every staff you should get lucky some day? R-right? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

You shouldnt underestimate the power of 1-1k tickets. Their overall amount might be huge, so basically i wont be surprised to hear chance to win for such player was higher than any bigshot contributor.

I'll pass it on to NGS mklopp with his 100 Non-GLT ticket buy in, and the NGS winner before him.

You people are too gullible. mklopp entered with 20k tickets and a GLT. People who go "I won with one ticket!" are usually trolling.

You shouldnt underestimate the power of 1-1k tickets. Their overall amount might be huge, so basically i wont be surprised to hear chance to win for such player was higher than any bigshot contributor.

That might be true in general, but for big-ticket items people tend to go all in. Which, incidentally, is why you can't. Out of those 1033905 tickets, 860000 were 20k entries.

You people are too gullible.

Shhhh! You're supposed to take advantage of that, not point it out!

People who go "I won with one ticket!" are usually trolling.

I won with one ticket!

(I won another chance to win (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) )

S-surely if you buy 20k tickets for every staff you should get lucky some day? R-right? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

same goes if you purchase one ticket everyday. sooner or later you should become lucky.

Out of those 1033905 tickets, 860000 were 20k entries.

which is like saying that 43 people had 83% of total ticket pool, not bad. all the others... what? 170k? were somehow spread between all the rest.

which is like saying that 43 people had 83% of total ticket pool, not bad. all the others... what? 170k? were somehow spread between all the rest.

Assuming all 43 also used a GLT, wouldn't that mean that they had 1720000 effective tickets total?

Assuming all 43 also used a GLT, wouldn't that mean that they had 1720000 effective tickets total?

I was always curious if the doubling up to 10% from GLT was counted against the "base ticket count" or "effective ticket count" (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Assuming all 43 also used a GLT, wouldn't that mean that they had 1720000 effective tickets total?

wasn't it that past a certain threshold GLT would only add the equivalent of 100 tickets - which is also the reason because one shouldn't bid more than 19.9k if he also plans to use a GLT? i never fully understood this part, tbh (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

wasn't it that past a certain threshold GLT would only add the equivalent of 100 tickets - which is also the reason because one shouldn't bid more than 19.9k if he also plans to use a GLT? i never fully understood this part, tbh (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

GLC always adds 100 "visible" tickets, but more than that supposedly it invisibly doubles the amount of tickets you have at the time of drawing as long as that amount is below 10% of total tickets. Though Tenboro never elaborated on how exactly those percentages work afaik like simrock said.

Thank you for your wisdom.
I'll pass it on to NGS mklopp with his 100 Non-GLT ticket buy in, and the NGS winner before him.

Logic does not make a tail wag.

Let me look behind me and check. Nope... Tail ain't wagging.

I think we all need to cheer you up a bit.

Go RoadShoe, Go RoadShoe, your gear is great your Hath is Huge, we love you-
r spending!

Assuming all 43 also used a GLT, wouldn't that mean that they had 1720000 effective tickets total?

Not all of them did, but that lottery effectively had 1529794 tickets.

wasn't it that past a certain threshold GLT would only add the equivalent of 100 tickets - which is also the reason because one shouldn't bid more than 19.9k if he also plans to use a GLT? i never fully understood this part, tbh (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

It's not all that complex. If you have less than 10% of the total tickets in the lottery, it will increase your effective number of tickets, capped to as if you bought 10% of the total tickets outright.

If a lottery has 400k or more tickets sold, adding a GLT will always double your win chance, since you cannot buy more than 20k of the total tickets.

If a lottery has between 200k and 400k tickets, and you buy 20k tickets with a GLT, it will also increase your win chance, but not higher than 1/10th of the actual number of tickets. So if 300k tickets were sold, it will be as if you bought 30k tickets - which, of course, you cannot do without a GLT.

If a lottery has 200k tickets and below, and you buy 10% or more of the total tickets sold, adding a GLT will have no effect.

Of course, if everyone adds a GLT and no one gets capped, the effective outcome will be the same as if no one did.

As for the 100 free tickets it gives you, the only real reason it adds any at all is to avoid dealing with the edge case where you add a GLT but don't buy any tickets.

If a lottery has between 200k and 400k tickets, and you buy 20k tickets with a GLT, it will also increase your win chance, but not higher than 1/10th of the actual number of tickets. So if 300k tickets were sold, it will be as if you bought 30k tickets - which, of course, you cannot do without a GLT

As I thought.

In the 300k case 20k + GLT would be wasteful though.
14900 + GLT already makes 30k.

This would be not valid if the 10% rule takes in account the hidden tickets from other people that used GLT.
The final question is, does it?

- snip -

a bit better, thanks.


regarding hidden tickets, if people are that concerned i guess that they'd better bid a certain amount of tickets at first and then eventually the GLT in case the sweet point is reached.
afterall, if it's reached with visible ticket count you're always fine, but if it isn't you may be not safe. better safe than sorry imo (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Mar 2 2017, 22:02

Not all of them did, but that lottery effectively had 1529794 tickets.

Thanks for clarification. I guess that makes it ~24 people who used GLT out of 43 who bought 20k + some that used GLT but had fewer tickets.
With 40k effective tickets there was a ~2.615% chance to win currently the best item in the game. I guess there are worse gambles out there. Even FoS shrining probably has lower chances for something decent and much higher costs.

In the 300k case 20k + GLT would be wasteful though.
14900 + GLT already makes 30k.

Correct.

This would be not valid if the 10% rule takes in account the hidden tickets from other people that used GLT.
The final question is, does it?

The cap is calculated from the actual number of tickets sold, so disregarding end of ticket sale snipers, you can always tell from the readouts exactly how much using a GLT will affect your win chance.