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Feb 16 2017, 22:46
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Feb 16 2017, 20:35)  Well, technically you can revoke a PM by enabling 'tracking' and then removing it before it was read. Could that be the case here?
If you want to test, go ahead I'm online.
pretty sure it is the case. but iirc it should give you a negative pm in this case
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Feb 16 2017, 22:56
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Juggernaut Santa
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Feb 16 2017, 22:59
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(End Of All Hope @ Feb 16 2017, 21:56)  do you know something about this, juggy?
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Feb 16 2017, 23:29
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Cleavs
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i recieved a warning about an incoming message, and a message that i already read (and answered to) a few hours ago popped out. it happens every now and then. i guess it's because someone sent/recalled a pm, but not sure.
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Feb 18 2017, 16:36
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Juggernaut Santa
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New auctions, new mad offers, new me surprised (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) QUOTE [Hea01] Legendary Mithril Power Boots of Slaughter (500, ADB 30%) (seller: serorin) TCPG 3m #170 [Hea12] Magnificent Power Leggings of Slaughter (343, ADB 14%) (seller: Grahf) Kiriman1 1.1m #251 Extend to 14:23 4.1m on these two (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Spoiler text - Highlight to read... I'll not say again that my boots are better (36%), the leggings pretty similar (M with L adb and low level) and I paid less than 100k overall (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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Feb 18 2017, 16:47
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nec1986
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Dont you think many areas have kinda crisis?
- Games. There are only few in year which are indeed good and usually its or big AAA project (like GTA5 or overwatch) or very lucky indie shot.
- Hentai. Yea, its also, because most of modern hentai are extremely slacking. For example, asagi 3.
- Tv and movies. Well, i think tv depends on country, but movies are probably more or less same for all. And thats mostly 9000 and one more marvel episode without any plot or grey shades.
So, basically big part of passive entertainment gives tons of trash and only tiny bit of good value. Which is probably lay mostly in cartoons (like zootopia, kung fu panda 3, finding dory, storks and so on).
This post has been edited by nec1986: Feb 18 2017, 16:47
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Feb 18 2017, 16:48
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Cleavs
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1,1 M for a Mag Leggings? wow. i guess i'll keep going with my Mag Savage for a bit longer.
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Feb 18 2017, 16:52
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(End Of All Hope @ Feb 18 2017, 15:36)  New auctions, new mad offers, new me surprised (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) 4.1m on these two (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Spoiler text - Highlight to read... I'll not say again that my boots are better (36%), the leggings pretty similar (M with L adb and low level) and I paid less than 100k overall (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) Well, a slaughter with 30% ADB is surely worth more than 100k, and while 3M is pushing it I wouldn't be that surprised. I mean, if elemental prefixed phase can go for nearly 2.5M everything can happen (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) Also in past auction: CODE Legendary Charged Phase Robe of Mjolnir 500, EDB 75% 31000k (morineko #297) That was shocking. P.S: I didn't know proxy bid sniping was a thing (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) I nearly re-bid higher just to annoy nicknameee, but spending 10+M for a slaughter piece in the current meta is a waste and I decided not to, still, super-annoying to see such disrespect toward Super's intentions. QUOTE(nec1986 @ Feb 18 2017, 15:47)  Dont you think many areas have kinda crisis?
Not really, it's probably just you growing up and having different tastes about entertainments. And we are probably in the golden age of TV series so I'm not really sure there is a crysis in tv & movies. This post has been edited by Sapo84: Feb 18 2017, 16:56
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Feb 18 2017, 16:56
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Feb 18 2017, 15:52)  P.S: I didn't know proxy bid sniping was a thing (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) I nearly re-bid higher just to annoy nicknameee, but spending 10+M for a slaughter piece in the current meta is a waste and I decided not to, still, super-annoying to see such disrespect toward Super's intentions. you're italian, you should know the saying "fatta la legge, trovato l'inganno" (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Feb 18 2017, 16:58
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Juggernaut Santa
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Feb 18 2017, 15:52)  Well, a slaughter with 30% ADB is surely worth more than 100k, and while 3M is pushing it I wouldn't be that surprised.
Yeah probably, but not more than 500k for a Lv 500 piece with a roll that low... I know that I'm the lucky one here, but 3m is too much. Think about it, nicknamee won an almost P helmet for 3 times more or so. THAT is a good deal imo. Considering that most shops list P~ ADB helmets (or even "crappy" ones with 23-24) for 15-25+ M (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Feb 18 2017, 15:52)  P.S: I didn't know proxy bid sniping was a thing (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) Well, "why should you snipe publicly while you can do it silently and make a lot of people not notice you've outbid them?" (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) This post has been edited by End Of All Hope: Feb 18 2017, 16:59
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Feb 18 2017, 17:01
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cmos
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QUOTE(End Of All Hope @ Feb 18 2017, 17:36)  I'll not say again that my boots are better (36%), the leggings pretty similar (M with L adb and low level) and I paid less than 100k overall
It depends on when you bought them. Some months have significantly less activity than the others so things may be cheaper. And of course when several people are badly interested in something the price rises too. Matra sure made those toys expensive today. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Feb 18 2017, 17:52)  P.S: I didn't know proxy bid sniping was a thing (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) How can you get "sniped" (it feels like people use that word for everything) if you put your real value as the max bid in the first place, which was actually the Super's intention? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Feb 18 2017, 17:08
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(cmos @ Feb 18 2017, 16:01)  Matra sure made those toys expensive today. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) well, he had a crush for agile shadowdancer since quite a while. pretty much like Savage Shadowdancer for stony. if you want to build such a set, be sure that he finished his own. for example, i didn't even try to go for Savage Shadowdancer when those two were still around and kicking. it's called "know your opponent in order not to get too hurt" (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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Feb 18 2017, 17:09
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(cmos @ Feb 18 2017, 16:01)  How can you get "sniped" (it feels like people use that word for everything) if you put your real value as the max bid in the first place, which was actually the Super's intention? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) QUOTE Auction sniping is the practice, in a timed online auction, of placing a bid likely to exceed the current highest bid (which may be hidden) as late as possible From [ en.wikipedia.org] Wikipedia. I suggest you edit that page if you feel the term is not correctly used (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Also i don't understand your point since Super made it pretty clear that he doesn't want the last minutes of an auction to get chaotic. Extending the end time with a proxy bid doesn't seem what he wanted the proxy bid to be. Obviously it's my opinion and you're free to disagree on the matter. Edit: I see you proxy bidded on the LDWD 15 minutes before the end of the auction. I'm not sure that I would count that as sniping (4M for a LDWD is too low and it would have got other bids regardless, heck, I would have gladly offered 5M for it) but whatever, I don't want to make this personal so I would rather drop the discussion (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) This post has been edited by Sapo84: Feb 18 2017, 17:21
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Feb 18 2017, 17:24
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cmos
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Feb 18 2017, 18:08)  well, he had a crush for agile shadowdancer since quite a while. pretty much like Savage Shadowdancer for stony. if you want to build such a set, be sure that he finished his own. for example, i didn't even try to go for Savage Shadowdancer when those two were still around and kicking. it's called "know your opponent in order not to get too hurt" (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) Well, I didn't buy it in the end, so no harm. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) Unlike with that demonic willow. He kinda gave up early on Aria's staff last time which was much better imo and similar but better staff went for only 10m a coupe months ago. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Feb 18 2017, 18:09)  From [ en.wikipedia.org] Wikipedia. QUOTE giving other bidders no time to outbid the sniper With Super's bot bidding you outbid everyone automatically, so sniping simply can't be a thing. QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Feb 18 2017, 18:09)  Also i don't understand your point since Super made it pretty clear that he doesn't want the last minutes of an auction to get chaotic. Extending the end time with a proxy bid doesn't seem what he wanted the proxy bid to be. Obviously it's my opinion and you're free to disagree on the matter.
The point is that if your max bid was 8888k and it's how much you value that item then it shouldn't matter to you that someone outbid you, in the last minute or not. He simply values it more, so he gets it. QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jun 14 2016, 13:14)  You are incentivized to proxy bid your true value, if you know it, at any time (possibly even days before the auction ends). If that value gets outbid, you pay nothing. If that value does not get outbid, you pay less.
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Feb 18 2017, 19:13
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(cmos @ Feb 18 2017, 16:24)  With Super's bot bidding you outbid everyone automatically, so sniping simply can't be a thing.
Well, since a bid extends the time by 15 minutes there can't be actual sniping anyway so I cannot see what's the big difference between Super's auctions and past auctions. QUOTE(cmos @ Feb 18 2017, 16:24)  The point is that if your max bid was 8888k and it's how much you value that item then it shouldn't matter to you that someone outbid you, in the last minute or not. He simply values it more, so he gets it. I think I made it pretty clear that I don't care about that, I put a bid to see if I could get a slaughter with good range for less than 10M, I'm completely ok not winning that (it's not even the first helmet I bid on, I always get overbid because I want to get if for cheap), I'm not ok with proxy bidding being used in that way, because it's exactly what Super wanted to eliminate with proxy bidding. QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jan 10 2017, 00:24)  That's why you should proxy bid in advance, instead of waiting until the last minute (which not only increases the chance of missing things entirely, but is also kinda rude to other participants).
I happen to agree with Super and I think doing so is rude to other participants and disrespectful of the work he has done do disincentivate this behaviour. Feel free do disagree.
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Feb 18 2017, 19:28
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simrock87
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Feb 18 2017, 17:13)  ... , I'm not ok with proxy bidding being used in that way, because it's exactly what Super wanted to eliminate with proxy bidding. I happen to agree with Super and I think doing so is rude to other participants and disrespectful of the work he has done do disincentivate this behaviour. Feel free do disagree.
Well, he could disable creating new proxy bids as of X minutes before the scheduled end. If you're there to create a new proxy bid, you could just as well put in a manual bid or am i wrong? :>
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