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i'll sell THIS beauty to your buddy for a zillion credits (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

to pair with [alt.hentaiverse.org] this other beauty, i guess? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

to pair with [alt.hentaiverse.org] this other beauty, i guess? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

naturally, with a full priestess set one would become all powerful (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

now, let's move on, shall we? btw, one buddy of mine wants to try Holy mage. my knowledge is quite limited, but afaik we have a few matching/pseudo-matching combos. considering his budget, level and such, am i safe to assume that saikd options rank as follows:

1. Hallowed Oak of Heimdall
2. Hallowed Katalox of Destruction (possibly 1 for low difficulties)
3. Hallowed Katalox of Heimdall
4. Hallowed Oak/Katalox of Focus
5. other sub-optimal ones

please note that said user is only trying to check how this style works, so 99% MDB LHOH at lv500 isn't even worth considering.
[edit]: also, i suggested him Holy since i know it's good for both SGs and regular arenas. no clue if Dark is comparable, tbh (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

To just get a feel for mage gameplay, you might also consider Katalox of the Heaven-sent. At least you'll be looking at a decent prof_factor without heavily forging Cotton pieces.

As for Dark, it's certainly worth considering (check the most recent posts in the Experts thread).

To just get a feel for mage gameplay, you might also consider Katalox of the Heaven-sent. At least you'll be looking at a decent prof_factor without heavily forging Cotton pieces.

yep, forgot that one. if prof staffs are ok, then i guess pool is way bigger than we think.

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Feb 11 2017, 12:23

Someone said that Leg Ethereal Rapiers aren't worth much.

Funny, [One01] Legendary Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter on Superlat's auction is worth someone proxy bidding above 8M.

Edit: wait, no, over 10M. That's all I've got in terms of credits. Oh well.

Why do I even get suckered in like that?

This post has been edited by jacquelope: Feb 11 2017, 13:40

Someone said that Leg Ethereal Rapiers aren't worth much.

it depends for what. for example, a Shade DWer may want either an Ethereal Rapier or a good elemental one + a ton of Feather - due to the fact that with 50+ Evade, the 7BUR brought by a Rapier can penalize you for 2+ Evade.
in all the other cases (especially 1H), one may want an elemental one in order to both control the element (thus i expect Hallowed, Demonic and Arctic ones as the most expensive) and lower the Evade as much as possible.

Someone said that Leg Ethereal Rapiers aren't worth much.

Funny, [One01] Legendary Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter on Superlat's auction is worth someone proxy bidding above 8M.

Edit: wait, no, over 10M. That's all I've got in terms of credits. Oh well.

Why do I even get suckered in like that?

it depends for what. for example, a Shade DWer may want either an Ethereal Rapier or a good elemental one + a ton of Feather - due to the fact that with 50+ Evade, the 7BUR brought by a Rapier can penalize you for 2+ Evade.
in all the other cases (especially 1H), one may want an elemental one in order to both control the element (thus i expect Hallowed, Demonic and Arctic ones as the most expensive) and lower the Evade as much as possible.

In my experience, ethereal rapiers are the most sought after. Also for 1h heavy. The primary blow is void even without IW10. And then you can hope to get holy strike after IW10. They are always the most expensive. But I preferred elemental as well, when I played 1h heavy.

In my experience, ethereal rapiers are the most sought after. Also for 1h heavy. The primary blow is void even without IW10. And then you can hope to get holy strike after IW10. They are always the most expensive. But I preferred elemental as well, when I played 1h heavy.

at a certain point you simply *have* to IW it, so Void Strike isn't the matter (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
as for the hope to have Holy strike, hmm... i'm pretty positive many people will prefer to pick an Ethereal and leave it at IW9, rather than gamble that way.

why Holy and not Dark, btw? seems to me the average mob pool is a bit weaker towards Dark

yep, forgot that one. if prof staffs are ok, then i guess pool is way bigger than we think.

Prof staves have always been good, even without full radiant build they are still pretty effective since they allow more phase pieces.

Also I wouldn't really keep katalox of focus as an options, a MHOH would probably be a lot better.
I don't think katalox is really that competitive unless we go of heaven-sent + full radiant, and even there an oak would probably still be better because of CR.

at a certain point you simply *have* to IW it, so Void Strike isn't the matter (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
as for the hope to have Holy strike, hmm... i'm pretty positive many people will prefer to pick an Ethereal and leave it at IW9, rather than gamble that way.

why Holy and not Dark, btw? seems to me the average mob pool is a bit weaker towards Dark

Why not try for Holy Strike? You could go through 10x10 amnesia shards for less than 1.5M, right? A pittance if you've got the balls to bidwar for a rapier like this. Cut that in half if you use the services of someone with that one amnesia shard-related perk.

My preference for Holy is because I already have a shitload of Dark infusions.

Much much better compared to before.






But we are still not there...
Still... 20 min and 3000turns less... Improvement...

Someone said that Leg Ethereal Rapiers aren't worth much.
Why do I even get suckered in like that?

It's you obsessed with the ethereal prefix, not me.
Look:

[One01] Legendary Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter (445, ADB 97%, Parry 25%) (seller: Kadokura) Eutopia 14.853m Proxy bid after #198
[One02] Legendary Shocking Rapier of Slaughter (489, ADB 90%, Parry 98%) (seller: vivikinomoto123) zero1018101 1.5m #119

The second rapier is way better than the first (higher STR, higher DEX, lower AGI, higher CRIT, way higher Parry, this only for a bit amount of ADB)
But people are all obsessed with Ethereal+1H, that is counter productive, probably because they aim to the IW9 incomplete + double infusion (just buy Hallowed or Demonic m8)

Changing the subject, this is surely surprising me:

[Hea01] Legendary Mithril Power Gauntlets of Slaughter (340, ADB 0%) (seller: Piscolabis) shinji-rei 3.3m #158
[Hea02] Legendary Amber Power Helmet of Slaughter (456, ADB 23%) (seller: needaname) shinji-rei 1.1m #193
[Hea03] Legendary Onyx Power Boots of Slaughter (491, ADB 39%) (seller: Phreeman) amped 1.1m #211

This love of "bad" slaughter gear is going out of control.
3m+ for a LMin lowish level Legedary, more than 1M for bad ADB roll and high level Legendary.
There's more than 5M in that bids, 30 times more the actual values (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

This post has been edited by End Of All Hope: Feb 11 2017, 15:36

Why not try for Holy Strike? You could go through 10x10 amnesia shards for less than 1.5M, right? A pittance if you've got the balls to bidwar for a rapier like this. Cut that in half if you use the services of someone with that one amnesia shard-related perk.

unless i'm forgetting something, usually one gambles for the strike when the IW is already good. this costs a bit more than a bunch of amnesias...

You can keep the ethereal for DW runs at end game equip levels, (even if i'm of the idea that axe is so much better), since it has faster clear speed (my forged 1h/heavy keeps heartseeker up for more or less 20 rounds, while my hardly DW for more than 40, just to give an example) specially for SGs.

For high level 1H/heavy an ethereal is actually not better, since as long as you stay under the crits penalty (you do anyway) any evasion is a minus, as any can see by simply featherweighting their armor and trying the same clear.

I said it, and I did it. Thanks to the guy bought the ethereal for 16m without trying to outbid me for the other.

I think I made a pretty good deal today.
And today is also the first time I won a serious bidwar with someone (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

For that I have to thank myself, also myself, then again myself. And...myself. Oh, also super's bid system, of course.

Now it's time to open a debt bigger than a Black Hole (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Everyone is obsessed with Ethereal because it's really the best... when you're not planning on IWing them.
Because once IWed, I find elemental weapons to be way better in all aspects: better stats, you can reduce their burden and interference with featherweight charms, you don't have any surprise with the extra elemental strike.

Everyone is obsessed with Ethereal because it's really the best... when you're not planning on IWing them.
Because once IWed, I find elemental weapons to be way better in all aspects: better stats, you can reduce their burden and interference with featherweight charms, you don't have any surprise with the extra elemental strike.

i for one am amused at the fact that for all their supposed flaws, ethereal rapiers of slaughter are still outrageously valuable. The market is speaking very loudly. Unfortunately on the other hand if everyone agreed that they were not so valuable, I could get one. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I find elemental weapons to be way better in all aspects: better stats

it's not like elementals have better rolls to begin with. it's only that there's a bigger pool to pick from, so it's easier (thus also cheaper) to find something good & affordable. not that it changes so much though.

The bidwar on Hea02 is real (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
> 2m for a M adb helmet. Fool me that I thought that it was going only for 50-100k (way above its real value already) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

The bidwar on Hea02 is real (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
> 2m for a M adb helmet. Fool me that I thought that it was going only for 50-100k (way above its real value already) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Yeah, noticed that too... they're reaaally desperate or something. On one hand, higher bids are profitable for me, but on the other hand, seeing inefficient markets feels even worse.