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post Jan 20 2017, 23:34
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Jan 20 2017, 21:27) *

I saw it just after posting that, i had edited my post (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
By the way, how come you don't use an Ethereal Estoc? Doesn't all that burden bother you with a Shade Set?


You are keeping the enemies stunned, hence you don't care much about burden.
I also don't use an ethereal one for FDR, even if i stopped using it.
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post Jan 20 2017, 23:35
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Oh well. My estoc is also ready if 2h becomes viable again (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jan 20 2017, 23:37
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Well i still like my mace more compared to how i like my was ment to be my estoc before i realized normal 2h is a pain to play on PF.

I'm using the mace only to train 2H proficiency after level ups. Usually 1x Flying Spaghetti Monster RoB is enough to get 1.0 with a dark mace. But i can still play PF arenas with mace. Not with the estoc normally.

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post Jan 21 2017, 00:09
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QUOTE(cmos @ Jan 20 2017, 22:21) *

As for potencies I think butcher/fatality are good since you need all the damage you can get. Whether you need SS or not depends on how many agile pieces you have to reach the target speed. ~32% attack speed for 13 attacks during stun is pretty safe, you can probably lower it a bit for only 12 attacks and it still would be fine. To be honest I'm not sure about the optimal ratio of SS/agile/savage pieces to maximize the damage, it needs more testing.

given that such bonus will stack with haste, i guess that the loss of a couple % ATK speed would be mitigated a bit.
as for agile/savage ratio, well - i don't have an answer either, but i think it's related to the amount of Shadowdancer you can get. btw, Leg Savage of Shadowdancer aren't easy to find, i know something as well (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
also, according to a previous math i did and to wiki's ranges, the effect of a Shadowdancer suffix on the weighted average damage are pretty similar to those from a Savage prefix. basically, it's a compromise between hitting slightly harder, slightly less frequently and hitting slightly weaker yet slightly more frequently.

QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Jan 20 2017, 22:23) *

As long as you have the credits to do it, why not?

pretty sure he does. not that i'm interested in the condition of sir cmos's wallet, of course. but yep, he has credits and uses them to play with a setup that he likes - with good results, i'd say. what's wrong? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jan 21 2017, 00:32
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All this talk about 2h made me want to try getting an Estoc, now i'll try to find one (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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post Jan 21 2017, 00:45
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Jan 21 2017, 00:32) *

All this talk about 2h made me want to try getting an Estoc, now i'll try to find one (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

I sometimes want to try new styles too, but then I remember that I need to IW (and possibly forge) all the new equipment and then grind proficiencies for the new style before I can see how it really performs. I'm too lazy for that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Jan 21 2017, 00:48
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QUOTE(Logii @ Jan 20 2017, 23:45) *

I sometimes want to try new styles too, but then I remember that I need to IW (and possibly forge) all the new equipment and then grind proficiencies for the new style before I can see how it really performs. I'm too lazy for that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

IW can be a real bother, but prof of Melee isn't too difficult to get, after all.
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post Jan 21 2017, 00:49
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Jan 20 2017, 23:32) *

All this talk about 2h made me want to try getting an Estoc, now i'll try to find one (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

need a loan?
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post Jan 21 2017, 00:52
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 20 2017, 23:49) *

Oh, that one is nice. But a loan wouldn't work, because i'd IW it before using it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Jan 21 2017, 00:56
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Jan 20 2017, 23:52) *

Oh, that one is nice. But a loan wouldn't work, because i'd IW it before using it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

if potencies are overpower and fatality or overpower and butcher or a combo of those three, why not? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jan 21 2017, 01:00
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 20 2017, 23:56) *

if potencies are overpower and fatality or overpower and butcher or a combo of those three, why not? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

They actually would be Swift Strike and Fatality/Butcher, i guess, for use with FRD (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

PS: Did you self drop or buy that?

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post Jan 21 2017, 01:08
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Jan 21 2017, 00:00) *

They actually would be Swift Strike and Fatality/Butcher, i guess, for use with FRD (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

uh, then i guess i'll have to do it myself (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Jan 21 2017, 00:00) *

PS: Did you self drop or buy that?

purchased a while ago. but i don't really remember when and from who


btw, we reached a point in which 2H armors aren't even listed in super's auction - and only a few katanas on kedama's. i guess at this point they have to be considered some kind of oddities (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Jan 21 2017, 01:14
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 21 2017, 00:08) *

btw, we reached a point in which 2H armors aren't even listed in super's auction - and only a few katanas on kedama's. i guess at this point they have to be considered some kind of oddities (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Yeah, i too don't see often 2H weapons in auctions.
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post Jan 21 2017, 01:41
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 21 2017, 07:08) *

uh, then i guess i'll have to do it myself (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
purchased a while ago. but i don't really remember when and from who
btw, we reached a point in which 2H armors aren't even listed in super's auction - and only a few katanas on kedama's. i guess at this point they have to be considered some kind of oddities (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

you bought that estoc from jacquelope (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Jan 21 2017, 01:43
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ok, now i'm scared (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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post Jan 21 2017, 01:47
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jan 21 2017, 00:41) *

you bought that estoc from jacquelope (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

How do you know that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

EDIT: And he's right, i went to check https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=4201211

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 21 2017, 00:43) *

ok, now i'm scared (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

Don't worry if you find him under your bed, he only came over to play (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Jan 21 2017, 01:55
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 20 2017, 23:08) *
btw, we reached a point in which 2H armors aren't even listed in super's auction - and only a few katanas on kedama's. i guess at this point they have to be considered some kind of oddities (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
I still list them when I get them and they have a decent chance of going for 50k+, but the problem is they're a pretty uncommon type in the first place, in addition to the style being unpopular.

Legendary Katanas of Slaughter can go for 50k or more. Legendary Ethereal (longsword)|(mace)|(estoc) of Slaughter can also go for 50k or more. Everything else never reliably gets bid on. It's nothing personal against 2h weapons, it's just what the market has decided.
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post Jan 21 2017, 01:58
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Jan 21 2017, 00:47) *

How do you know that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

what do you think i meant when today i asked him where does he keep all his infos?

QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Jan 21 2017, 00:47) *

Don't worry if you find him under your bed, he only came over to play (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

playing with a bear can be dangerous (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jan 21 2017, 00:55) *

It's nothing personal against 2h weapons, it's just what the market has decided.

i never said you don't like 2H weapons or such and i know you're too rational not to analyze the results of your auctions to check what can sell and whatnot (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Jan 21 2017, 03:49
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It just my memory , okay (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I'm remember that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jan 21 2017, 05:21
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Man, I love people who drop Christmas artifacts!!!

I've just about paid for my auction bids now.
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