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why not reinstating Kites of Barrier, at this point?

Terrible block chance.

By the way, why do Kite Shields exist? They are useless (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

back then, Kite of Barrier used to have one of the highest possible block, on pair with Tower Shields iirc (which were the old T3 type, prior to the introduction of Forces). higher than them, only Tower of Barrier. guess they were pretty expensive.
on the other hand, Kite of Battlecasters are another of those noisy kinds of food for collectors. just saying.

[edit]: fixed a bit. seems i was partially wrong.

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Jan 19 2017, 18:58

nvm

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Jan 19 2017, 18:57

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The key word is "back then".
Now they are pretty much useless.
Maybe if they would reinstate on it the Barrier prefix it would be half decent.

The key word is "back then".
Now they are pretty much useless.
Maybe if they would reinstate on it the Barrier prefix it would be half decent.

yep, several gears would need to be revamped a bit. but i think that several bad prefix/suffix combos should be kept. for example, what would happen to the price of HG Cloth if suddenly all Cotton of Protection/Warding/Earth-walker/Curse-weaver were removed? same goes for HG Wood (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

yep, several gears would need to be revamped a bit. but i think that several bad prefix/suffix combos should be kept. for example, what would happen to the price of HG Cloth if suddenly all Cotton of Protection/Warding/Earth-walker/Curse-weaver were removed? same goes for HG Wood (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

It would go up, that's for sure.
But i think that most HGC/HGW comes from monsters, so i don't think it would go up too much (this is a wild guess) .

It would go up, that's for sure.
But i think that most HGC/HGW comes from monsters, so i don't think it would go up too much (this is a wild guess) .

Actually I think Snowflake loves to give players HGC... in the form of useless equipment (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Edit: And whaddya know, I got a magnificent HGC of the useless-suffix from RE just now

This post has been edited by -Shun-: Jan 19 2017, 19:14

back then, Kite of Barrier used to have one of the highest possible block, on pair with Tower Shields iirc (which were the old T3 type, prior to the introduction of Forces). higher than them, only Tower of Barrier. guess they were pretty expensive.
on the other hand, Kite of Battlecasters are another of those noisy kinds of food for collectors. just saying.

[edit]: fixed a bit. seems i was partially wrong.

Then...highest block back then, how much? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

It would go up, that's for sure.
But i think that most HGC/HGW comes from monsters, so i don't think it would go up too much (this is a wild guess) .

Actually I think Snowflake loves to give players HGC... in the form of useless equipment (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

well, obviously none of us know the exact ratio. but it would still mean a raise of the cost, thus a decreasing of the purchaseable amount.

Then...highest block back then, how much? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Tower of Barrier, 38.92 according to wiki. standard Tower, 33.93. Kite of Barrier, 34.93. Bucklers, not worth considering (not even in the Barrier suffix).
basically Kite of Barrier were only slightly better than standard Tower, but:
1. Block wasn't as important as today is, so it was surely less relevant.
2. they had the merit of being T2, while Tower were T3. even if Kite of Barrier were rarer than standard Towers, it would've still meant less forge cost.
nowadays, to make them viable Barrier suffix should be on pair with Forces, i guess. but then probably they will become OP (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
why not allowing people to use a 2H weapon with Kites, yet keeping the current block ranges? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

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"2H Weapon + Shield"
What? Does the character hold the Shield with his third hand? Is he a Shapeshifter? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

"2H Weapon + Shield"
What? Does the character hold the Shield with his third hand? Is he a Shapeshifter? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

you have the shield tied to an arm (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

yep, several gears would need to be revamped a bit. but i think that several bad prefix/suffix combos should be kept. for example, what would happen to the price of HG Cloth if suddenly all Cotton of Protection/Warding/Earth-walker/Curse-weaver were removed? same goes for HG Wood (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

They might become slightly more expensive than now, but the demand is already going down. For example the WTB price for HGC is down to 15k now and even at that price there are only couple buyers. I estimate that the price of HGC will fall in a similar way as hath price did: down to where mainly players with big stocks will continue to sell the materials while players with less stock wait for the price rise that never comes.

Maybe in few months going mage won't be much more expensive than going melee is. I guess most players (of the players who will transition at all) have already did the transition to mage and got their set somewhat done, so the low material demand will drive the prices down. That can be good if you want to become a mage, but for melee players it will reduce income from selling materials.

At this rate I believe HV will go into an interesting economy where mainly things like Gold Stars, Monster Lab items and very high tier equipment prices will continue to rise and everything else goes down.

Monster Lab items will have demand because that's where players with complete sets will invest (which also increases the supply of forge materials). Gold Stars are also something that players buy after they have nothing better to spend their credits on (this might also cut the supply of GS sellers because almost everything gets cheaper, but the profit from selling GS goes up). High tier equipment will stay expensive because that's the only meaningful upgrade for most players with complete sets.

I find it interesting that prices continue going down even though many players refuse to sell their materials and hath below some set price. This is where the huge wealth gap of HV comes into play: the few rich players have so much supply that it can almost cover the whole demand of the HV economy.

This is all assuming that the new patch doesn't get released or when released doesn't change the meta and there are no new meaningful hath sinks.

I guess most players (of the players who will transition at all) have already did the transition to mage and got their set somewhat done[...]

This is all assuming that the new patch doesn't get released or when released doesn't change the meta and there are no new meaningful hath sinks.

yep. but in such conditions, there will still be people who transition to mage. maybe not as mass-transition as it has been until now, but still a certain turnover.

you have the shield tied to an arm (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Maybe you could do it with small buckler, but kite shield? Some nice acrobatics that would be to not hit your head/legs every time you take a swing.

Why not make another unique prof like 2 shields for both arms+ 2handed weapon?

yep. but in such conditions, there will still be people who transition to mage. maybe not as mass-transition as it has been until now, but still a certain turnover.

True, but I doubt those players will keep the price of mage materials as high as it has been. Even if the demand stayed as high as now, the supply is growing all the time.

Like I said, I predict that the prices of materials will go down over time, unless a new patch changes the meta.

They might become slightly more expensive than now, but the demand is already going down. For example the WTB price for HGC is down to 15k now and even at that price there are only couple buyers.

I'm still selling it @20k (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Maybe you could do it with small buckler, but kite shield? Some nice acrobatics that would be to not hit your head/legs every time you take a swing.

Why not make another unique prof like 2 shields for both arms+ 2handed weapon?

More likely Shielding 2H Weapons.

I'm still selling it @20k (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Do you ever manage to sell any? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

More likely Shielding 2H Weapons.

Good idea.

This post has been edited by gianfrix94: Jan 19 2017, 20:58

Do you ever manage to sell any? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

I said selling, not trying to sell.
I have a private customer.
Who? Classified information (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

Good idea.

More in detail, [images.halloweencostumes.com] Shields with a slot to insert a Longsword in, actually exist.
They could add small shields with lower block (and INSANE burden or -5/10% Attack Speed) that can be equipped on the Longsword's blade only (offhand slot ofc).
This could make viable Longswords again (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

This post has been edited by End Of All Hope: Jan 19 2017, 21:05

I'm still selling it @20k (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

WTS price is what people want from the items they have, WTB price is what you can actually get from your items right now, Item Shop price is usually the highest price players will pay for items. In my estimation WTB price is a pretty good reference point if there are at least couple players buying the same item. You are pretty lucky to have a customer willing to pay extra to buy from you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Seems like you fixed your signature too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

don't remember battlecaster kite existing ever

battlecaster buckler with +mdb <3