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Drops improve from:

• Scavenger
• LOTD (barely)
• Quartermaster
• Archaeologist
• Crystarium

SG trophies are the main profit of SG arenas, but as you can see, they aren't affected by any of these. After training/perks, there are some drop benefits from the ordinary monsters in SG arenas, but there are generally few standard monsters per round in SG arenas, and the rounds take longer than usual, so the overall improvement in SG arenas from training/perks is minimal.

On the other hand, in ordinary arenas and GF, all 4 of those drop improvements moderately help; there are generally more standard monsters per round, and none are particularly tanky, so it doesn't take long to finish the round. But - in arenas, a substantial fraction of income comes from credit drops, which isn't affected in any significant way by training/perks. So by training, income per round increases more in standard arenas than it does in SG arenas, but not by a whole lot.

GF is where those training/perks really shine, because (static) credit drops are minimal, and [crystals, equip drops, artifact drops] together make up the vast majority of income - all of which are substantially improved by those drop improvements mentioned before. So getting training/perks most increases GF income.

Note that this is rate of change in income, not absolute income; even with training, GF might still not be as profitable as certain other battle series'. Check Income Summary to get absolute numbers.
GF is 1000 rounds, which requires 20 stamina if you're below 80 (30 stamina max). So you'll recover enough stamina to play a bit more than one GF per day, without using any energy drinks.

So you're basically depending on training improvements, artifacts and jackpot equipment drops in PF/regular arenas, plus crystals in PF GF, in order to beat the trophy income from SG arenas? Sorry if I sound dense here and if this is a wrong analysis on my part. If people are actually making a better living on that then SG arenas, then I just need to try it out and see for myself.

And what is the wild ballpark estimates on the time you will spend finishing PF Fest given 7578 ABD and armed with Infusion of Darkness and Holy Strike? My hit chance is 169% and 39% crit chance. BTW income summary for some reason kept crashing my Iron browser as soon as I installed it. I'm going to try it again with the new operating system when it's done installing tonight.

So you're basically depending on training improvements, artifacts and jackpot equipment drops in PF/regular arenas, plus crystals in PF GF, in order to beat the trophy income from SG arenas? Sorry if I sound dense here and if this is a wrong analysis on my part. If people are actually making a better living on that then SG arenas, then I just need to try it out and see for myself.

And what is the wild ballpark estimates on the time you will spend finishing PF Fest given 7578 ABD and armed with Infusion of Darkness and Holy Strike? My hit chance is 169% and 39% crit chance. BTW income summary for some reason kept crashing my Iron browser as soon as I installed it. I'm going to try it again with the new operating system when it's done installing tonight.

If your Crystarium isn't high enough, a PF fest is mostly going to be a waste of time and it would be better off doing SG Arenas.
How much is your Crystarium?

So you're basically depending on training improvements, artifacts and jackpot equipment drops in PF/regular arenas, plus crystals in PF GF, in order to beat the trophy income from SG arenas?

No, that's why I said

Note that this is rate of change in income, not absolute income; even with training, GF might still not be as profitable as certain other battle series'. Check Income Summary to get absolute numbers.

Personally, I'd never factor in high-value equipment drops when trying to decide which battles to play. They're much too unpredictable.

If people are actually making a better living on that then SG arenas, then I just need to try it out and see for myself.

It depends on difficulty. For example, if you're playing SG arenas on Hell or above, then yes, others are definitely doing better on other battle series.

To determine which battles will be most profitable, record your different options a few times (on different difficulties) with Income Summary and look at which have the highest credits/turn.

And what is the wild ballpark estimates on the time you will spend finishing PF Fest given 7578 ABD and armed with Infusion of Darkness and Holy Strike?

No clue, but likely too long.

BTW income summary for some reason kept crashing my Iron browser as soon as I installed it.

Never heard of something like that before. What error comes up?

No, that's why I said
Personally, I'd never factor in high-value equipment drops when trying to decide which battles to play. They're much too unpredictable.
It depends on difficulty. For example, if you're playing SG arenas on Hell or above, then yes, others are definitely doing better on other battle series.

To determine which battles will be most profitable, record your different options a few times (on different difficulties) with Income Summary and look at which have the highest credits/turn.
No clue, but likely too long.
Never heard of something like that before. What error comes up?

No error, it just shut down the browser as soon as I loaded up hentaiverse with it. The problem is gone now on my new installation though. I'm going to be experimenting with income summary.

No error, it just shut down the browser as soon as I loaded up hentaiverse with it. The problem is gone now on my new installation though. I'm going to be experimenting with income summary.

isn't there a crashlog or something like that on Iron?

29 9 In Memory Of Dark Mages Jz01 uses Ragnarok. You evade the attack.
33 5 In Memory Of Dark Mages Jz01 uses Disintegrate. You parry the attack.

...
What? No wait: double WHAT? I parry a Disintegrate?

33 9 Stop kicking the dead horse.
33 8 Your spike shield hits In Memory Of Dark Mages Jz01 for 5 points of cold damage.
33 7 You counter In Memory Of Dark Mages Jz01 for 3239 points of void damage.
33 6 In Memory Of Dark Mages Jz01 has been defeated.

It's him who started this shit. I swear I'm innocent.

This post has been edited by decondelite: Jan 16 2017, 22:06

don't lie. you've been busted (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

isn't there a crashlog or something like that on Iron?

Hah, I never looked at that. But I've already moved to my new system and it all works fine now - Income Summary and all its addons. My HV ping is still bad (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) but stuff is still way snappier.

If your Crystarium isn't high enough, a PF fest is mostly going to be a waste of time and it would be better off doing SG Arenas.
How much is your Crystarium?

I got zero on that. It'll be my next goal though since I am now pulling in two hath per day. Or I could spend ~3.4 mil on hath for Crystarium 1 & 2? (I have 52 hath right now) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Peerless Shocking Redwood Staff of the Elementalist
Winner: cmos

Goddammit, I just wanted some tokens. What am I supposed to do with them now? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
Why couldn't I win a PSWD when I had proportionally much more tickets. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Grand Prize for January 16th:
Peerless Shocking Redwood Staff of the Elementalist

You hold 20000 of 87727 sold tickets.


But I got nothing.

It seems that 10B Snowflake hates me.

Goddammit, I just wanted some tokens. What am I supposed to do with them now? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Token output from grinding is rather predictable.

I don't even know what to do with my tokens.

Grand Prize for January 16th:
Peerless Shocking Redwood Staff of the Elementalist

You hold 20000 of 87727 sold tickets.
But I got nothing.

It seems that 10B Snowflake hates me.

Sorry for that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
At least you win something nice occasionally. I only ever won some okay-but-not-the-best equips, no charged/radiant, no good staffs except those two that aren't the best either, no good melee stuff when I needed it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Token output from grinding is rather predictable.

I don't even know what to do with my tokens.

You already chaosed all your monsters?

Scavenger upgrades, yup.

Not really sure that the other upgrades are worthwhile.

I usually just buy 1 or 2 tickets for lottery every time, so if I encounter something nice I can easily increase my win chances tenfold with just 10 tickets.

If you buy a lot tickets every time you can't increase your chances as much when it matters.

Not really sure that the other upgrades are worthwhile.

I don't think they are either, since almost no one ever dies

Peerless Shocking Redwood Staff of the Elementalist
Winner: cmos

Goddammit, I just wanted some tokens. What am I supposed to do with them now? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
Why couldn't I win a PSWD when I had proportionally much more tickets. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Welcome to the club, friend.

The best thing is to hold onto it until 10B breaks down and finally implements un-soulbinding.

Welcome to the club, friend.

The best thing is to hold onto it until 10B breaks down and finally implements un-soulbinding.

I shudder to think how many duplicate peerless equips you must have by now. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Almost 35k on the Weapon's Lottery of today (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

I still don't see ponies in this thread.

34x Crystals (0.00 packs)
825,970x EXP
4,329x Credits
8x Trash Gear
1x Applejack Figurine
1x ManBearPig Tail
5x Crystal of Corruption
1x Crystal of Cunning
3x Crystal of Devotion
3x Crystal of Finesse
3x Crystal of Flames
4x Crystal of Fortitude
3x Crystal of Frost
2x Crystal of Knowledge
1x Crystal of Lightning
2x Crystal of Swiftness
2x Crystal of Tempest
5x Crystal of Vigor
4x Health Draught
2x Health Potion
8x Mana Draught
1x Mana Potion
1x Scroll of Life
1x Scroll of Shadows
1x Scroll of Swiftness
1x Scroll of the Gods
2x Spirit Draught
4x Monster Chow
1x Monster Cuisine
3x Monster Edibles


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Fixed. Don't mention it.