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post Jan 15 2017, 15:56
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Talking about misteries of HV I always wondered why the 4th schoolgirl is Konata and not Haruhi Suzumiya.
It doesn't make any sense (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jan 15 2017, 16:01
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QUOTE(End Of All Hope @ Jan 15 2017, 20:56) *

Talking about misteries of HV I always wondered why the 4th schoolgirl is Konata and not Haruhi Suzumiya.
It doesn't make any sense (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


God knows.
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post Jan 15 2017, 16:25
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post Jan 15 2017, 16:27
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QUOTE(Colman @ Jan 15 2017, 15:25) *

Legit.
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post Jan 15 2017, 17:23
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Can i have a hug?
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post Jan 15 2017, 17:31
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QUOTE(Epion @ Jan 15 2017, 22:23) *

Can i have a hug?
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//hug
Hope you feel better now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
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post Jan 15 2017, 17:50
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QUOTE(Epion @ Jan 15 2017, 13:23) *

Can i have a hug?
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post Jan 15 2017, 18:01
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QUOTE(Epion @ Jan 15 2017, 16:23) *

Can i have a hug?
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(IMG:[static1.fjcdn.com] http://static1.fjcdn.com/comments/Take%20this%20_1a20aaec8813e750dbb155a16c315313.png)
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post Jan 15 2017, 18:03
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QUOTE(arialinnoc @ Jan 15 2017, 15:31) *

//hug
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Jan 15 2017, 15:50) *





QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 15 2017, 16:01) *





Thank you.
Yeah. A little better now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Jan 15 2017, 18:49
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jan 15 2017, 05:10) *

Me, I prefer high-grade wood when going after school girls hard.




LOL! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I call this a joke granade.

He pulled the pin, and it took 7 seconds before it sunk in and caused a LOL. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jan 15 2017, 18:54
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QUOTE(End Of All Hope @ Jan 15 2017, 14:56) *

Talking about misteries of HV I always wondered why the 4th schoolgirl is Konata and not Haruhi Suzumiya.
It doesn't make any sense (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


I demand Haruhi Suzumiya to be added. And her moves have to be lewder than ever. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Talking abouyt hugs...

(IMG:[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/fmNyKrW.jpg)

Hugs must be VERY expensive.
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post Jan 15 2017, 19:08
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QUOTE(RoadShoe @ Jan 15 2017, 17:49) *

LOL! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I call this a joke granade.

He pulled the pin, and it took 7 seconds before it sunk in and caused a LOL. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


Finally I made a joke that made somebody laugh (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jan 16 2017, 00:16
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Good heavens.
Now that I have a decent spirit shield, I can clean all the arenas in Hard difficulty in complete safety, without thinking too much.
=> Never playing Normal any more.
...
... now I really need to finish IWing my new weapon to clear them faster.
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post Jan 16 2017, 00:20
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At your level you should be able to play hell bro (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Jan 16 2017, 00:30
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QUOTE(End Of All Hope @ Jan 15 2017, 23:20) *

At your level you should be able to play hell bro (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

At his level i played IWBTH (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Jan 16 2017, 00:52
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QUOTE(End Of All Hope @ Jan 15 2017, 23:20) *

At your level you should be able to play hell bro (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Jan 15 2017, 23:30) *

At his level i played IWBTH (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

he spoke about finish IWing his weapon, maybe his current one doesn't allow him to do too much. but yep, if you walk through Hard, then try raising difficulty.
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post Jan 16 2017, 01:20
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I do play Hell to IW my weapon you know... just so the rounds don't count in the low difficulty round count. I can't go any higher though.
If I don't play arenas higher than Hard, it's more because it would have a lower credits/time ratio.
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post Jan 16 2017, 04:56
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jan 14 2017, 21:37) *

Drops improve from:
  • Scavenger
  • LOTD (barely)
  • Quartermaster
  • Archaeologist
  • Crystarium
SG trophies are the main profit of SG arenas, but as you can see, they aren't affected by any of these. After training/perks, there are some drop benefits from the ordinary monsters in SG arenas, but there are generally few standard monsters per round in SG arenas, and the rounds take longer than usual, so the overall improvement in SG arenas from training/perks is minimal.

On the other hand, in ordinary arenas and GF, all 4 of those drop improvements moderately help; there are generally more standard monsters per round, and none are particularly tanky, so it doesn't take long to finish the round. But - in arenas, a substantial fraction of income comes from credit drops, which isn't affected in any significant way by training/perks. So by training, income per round increases more in standard arenas than it does in SG arenas, but not by a whole lot.

GF is where those training/perks really shine, because (static) credit drops are minimal, and [crystals, equip drops, artifact drops] together make up the vast majority of income - all of which are substantially improved by those drop improvements mentioned before. So getting training/perks most increases GF income.

Note that this is rate of change in income, not absolute income; even with training, GF might still not be as profitable as certain other battle series'. Check Income Summary to get absolute numbers.
GF is 1000 rounds, which requires 20 stamina if you're below 80 (30 stamina max). So you'll recover enough stamina to play a bit more than one GF per day, without using any energy drinks.

So you're basically depending on training improvements, artifacts and jackpot equipment drops in PF/regular arenas, plus crystals in PF GF, in order to beat the trophy income from SG arenas? Sorry if I sound dense here and if this is a wrong analysis on my part. If people are actually making a better living on that then SG arenas, then I just need to try it out and see for myself.

And what is the wild ballpark estimates on the time you will spend finishing PF Fest given 7578 ABD and armed with Infusion of Darkness and Holy Strike? My hit chance is 169% and 39% crit chance. BTW income summary for some reason kept crashing my Iron browser as soon as I installed it. I'm going to try it again with the new operating system when it's done installing tonight.
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post Jan 16 2017, 05:07
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Jan 16 2017, 03:56) *

So you're basically depending on training improvements, artifacts and jackpot equipment drops in PF/regular arenas, plus crystals in PF GF, in order to beat the trophy income from SG arenas? Sorry if I sound dense here and if this is a wrong analysis on my part. If people are actually making a better living on that then SG arenas, then I just need to try it out and see for myself.

And what is the wild ballpark estimates on the time you will spend finishing PF Fest given 7578 ABD and armed with Infusion of Darkness and Holy Strike? My hit chance is 169% and 39% crit chance. BTW income summary for some reason kept crashing my Iron browser as soon as I installed it. I'm going to try it again with the new operating system when it's done installing tonight.

If your Crystarium isn't high enough, a PF fest is mostly going to be a waste of time and it would be better off doing SG Arenas.
How much is your Crystarium?
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post Jan 16 2017, 05:07
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Jan 16 2017, 02:56) *
So you're basically depending on training improvements, artifacts and jackpot equipment drops in PF/regular arenas, plus crystals in PF GF, in order to beat the trophy income from SG arenas?
No, that's why I said
QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jan 15 2017, 05:37) *
Note that this is rate of change in income, not absolute income; even with training, GF might still not be as profitable as certain other battle series'. Check Income Summary to get absolute numbers.
Personally, I'd never factor in high-value equipment drops when trying to decide which battles to play. They're much too unpredictable.
QUOTE(jacquelope @ Jan 16 2017, 02:56) *
If people are actually making a better living on that then SG arenas, then I just need to try it out and see for myself.
It depends on difficulty. For example, if you're playing SG arenas on Hell or above, then yes, others are definitely doing better on other battle series.

To determine which battles will be most profitable, record your different options a few times (on different difficulties) with Income Summary and look at which have the highest credits/turn.
QUOTE(jacquelope @ Jan 16 2017, 02:56) *
And what is the wild ballpark estimates on the time you will spend finishing PF Fest given 7578 ABD and armed with Infusion of Darkness and Holy Strike?
No clue, but likely too long.
QUOTE(jacquelope @ Jan 16 2017, 02:56) *
BTW income summary for some reason kept crashing my Iron browser as soon as I installed it.
Never heard of something like that before. What error comes up?
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