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post Jan 13 2017, 15:32
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Just stop by to say good night.
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post Jan 13 2017, 15:33
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Goodnight.

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post Jan 13 2017, 15:43
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good night aria
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post Jan 13 2017, 15:54
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QUOTE(arialinnoc @ Jan 13 2017, 14:32) *

Just stop by to say good night.
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g'night. let's hope your proxy bid on those bindings of cheetah will still be valid by the time you'll wake up again (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jan 14 2017, 03:49
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QUOTE(End Of All Hope @ Jan 13 2017, 20:33) *

Goodnight.

(I guess I have to go eat lunch, it's already 2:33 PM here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) )



QUOTE(VriskaSerket @ Jan 13 2017, 20:43) *

good night aria



QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 13 2017, 20:54) *

g'night. let's hope your proxy bid on those bindings of cheetah will still be valid by the time you'll wake up again (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


Thank you everyone (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jan 14 2017, 03:58
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QUOTE(arialinnoc @ Jan 13 2017, 11:32) *

Just stop by to say good night.
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By your local time, now I must say "Good Morning"! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jan 14 2017, 04:11
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Jan 14 2017, 08:58) *

By your local time, now I must say "Good Morning"! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Good Morning to you as well (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jan 15 2017, 03:20
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9 days of playing the SG arenas plus Eve of Death and The Trio and the Tree netted me

5x Noodly Appendage
9x Sapling
145x Broken Glasses
111x Hinamatsuri Doll
112x Bunny-Girl Costume
118x Lock of Blue Hair
19x Dalek Voicebox
14x Mithra's Flower
21x Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch
9x ManBearPig Tail
18x Precursor Artifact

For a total of around 1.5m

Not very good...
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post Jan 15 2017, 03:39
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Jan 15 2017, 02:20) *

9 days of playing the SG arenas plus Eve of Death and The Trio and the Tree netted me

5x Noodly Appendage
9x Sapling
145x Broken Glasses
111x Hinamatsuri Doll
112x Bunny-Girl Costume
118x Lock of Blue Hair
19x Dalek Voicebox
14x Mithra's Flower
21x Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch
9x ManBearPig Tail
18x Precursor Artifact

For a total of around 1.5m

Not very good...


Honestly, it doesn't seem that bad to me.
1537950C in trophies and artifacts for 45 arenas.
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post Jan 15 2017, 03:53
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Somewhere hidden in there is a Peerless Radiant Heimdall or Peerless Savage Slaughter (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jan 15 2017, 06:56
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jan 14 2017, 17:39) *

Honestly, it doesn't seem that bad to me.
1537950C in trophies and artifacts for 45 arenas.

I guess the problem is the artifacts. I was doing that many on average before I invested four upgrades (five, pending) into my Archaeologist training.
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post Jan 15 2017, 07:01
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SG arenas are best for low-level players without training or perks on Normal or Hard or so. For medium-high level players with decent gears and reasonable training/Crystarium, the SG arenas become pretty underwhelming. (SG arena income per arena doesn't improve that much, whereas standard arenas' income does improve moderately, and GF's income improves significantly)
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post Jan 15 2017, 07:24
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jan 14 2017, 21:01) *

SG arenas are best for low-level players without training or perks on Normal or Hard or so. For medium-high level players with decent gears and reasonable training/Crystarium, the SG arenas become pretty underwhelming. (SG arena income per arena doesn't improve that much, whereas standard arenas' income does improve moderately, and GF's income improves significantly)

Please explain the improvement in non-SG arena income. When I go at non-SG's at PFUDOR I don't recall seeing my credit drops increasing. I also still only largely get superior or exquisite trash, and while PFUDOR generally raises your odds of a leg or mag drop (and thus a jackpot), my only time ever getting an actual jackpot-level item was a staff that dropped in Normal mode (I think on a SG arena, but it could happen in any arena).

I don't experience the profit levels in PFUDOR non-SG arenas that I get from selling SG trophies.

I have not ever completed all 1000 rounds of a Grindfest. Considering that (thanks to my ping) it takes 15+ minutes to do DWD on normal while just plowing right through and ignoring all gems, I absolutely shudder at the time it might take to do a PF Fest. Then I'd have to recover my stamina with stupidly expensive energy drinks. I haven't done the math on what 1000 rounds do to your stamina but I know 24 hours isn't enough to recover from that; so one whole GF per day has me at 10 stamina within what, a week or so?
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post Jan 15 2017, 07:37
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Jan 15 2017, 05:24) *
Please explain the improvement in non-SG arena income. When I go at non-SG's at PFUDOR I don't recall seeing my credit drops increasing. I also still only largely get superior or exquisite trash, and while PFUDOR generally raises your odds of a leg or mag drop (and thus a jackpot), my only time ever getting an actual jackpot-level item was a staff that dropped in Normal mode (I think on a SG arena, but it could happen in any arena).

I don't experience the profit levels in PFUDOR non-SG arenas that I get from selling SG trophies.
Drops improve from:
  • Scavenger
  • LOTD (barely)
  • Quartermaster
  • Archaeologist
  • Crystarium
SG trophies are the main profit of SG arenas, but as you can see, they aren't affected by any of these. After training/perks, there are some drop benefits from the ordinary monsters in SG arenas, but there are generally few standard monsters per round in SG arenas, and the rounds take longer than usual, so the overall improvement in SG arenas from training/perks is minimal.

On the other hand, in ordinary arenas and GF, all 4 of those drop improvements moderately help; there are generally more standard monsters per round, and none are particularly tanky, so it doesn't take long to finish the round. But - in arenas, a substantial fraction of income comes from credit drops, which isn't affected in any significant way by training/perks. So by training, income per round increases more in standard arenas than it does in SG arenas, but not by a whole lot.

GF is where those training/perks really shine, because (static) credit drops are minimal, and [crystals, equip drops, artifact drops] together make up the vast majority of income - all of which are substantially improved by those drop improvements mentioned before. So getting training/perks most increases GF income.

Note that this is rate of change in income, not absolute income; even with training, GF might still not be as profitable as certain other battle series'. Check Income Summary to get absolute numbers.
QUOTE(jacquelope @ Jan 15 2017, 05:24) *
I have not ever completed all 1000 rounds of a Grindfest. Considering that (thanks to my ping) it takes 15+ minutes to do DWD on normal while just plowing right through and ignoring all gems, I absolutely shudder at the time it might take to do a PF Fest. Then I'd have to recover my stamina with stupidly expensive energy drinks. I haven't done the math on what 1000 rounds do to your stamina but I know 24 hours isn't enough to recover from that; so one whole GF per day has me at 10 stamina within what, a week or so?
GF is 1000 rounds, which requires 20 stamina if you're below 80 (30 stamina max). So you'll recover enough stamina to play a bit more than one GF per day, without using any energy drinks.
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post Jan 15 2017, 11:26
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Where are the ponies?

For my part, I don't see why in the hell one would want to play the SG arenas at anything higher than Normal, given the fact that SG are damn HP bags that slow you down considerably. Even in this setup, it takes me 8mins/12mins to clear the 1st and 2nd SG arenas, for the moment. I don't want to imagine what it'd be in higher difficulties, that's clearly counter-productive.
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post Jan 15 2017, 11:33
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jan 15 2017, 04:26) *

Where are the ponies?

For my part, I don't see why in the hell one would want to play the SG arenas at anything higher than Normal, given the fact that SG are damn HP bags that slow you down considerably. Even in this setup, it takes me 8mins/12mins to clear the 1st and 2nd SG arenas, for the moment. I don't want to imagine what it'd be in higher difficulties, that's clearly counter-productive.

The last round of the SG arenas have a chance of dropping leg equipment so, if you're level 400+ I think those arenas wouldn't take that long, but yeah, you should only play on normal for now, I prefer to play on hard since the difficulty doesn't rise that much and you can get amnesia shards
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post Jan 15 2017, 12:15
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QUOTE(Slobber @ Jan 15 2017, 02:53) *

Somewhere hidden in there is a Peerless Radiant Heimdall or Peerless Savage Slaughter (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

congratulations, with this you triggered nobody's daily poorness (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE(decondelite @ Jan 15 2017, 10:26) *

I don't see why in the hell one would want to play the SG arenas at anything higher than Normal

i suggest you Hard minimum for these reasons;
QUOTE(yami_zetsu @ Jan 15 2017, 10:33) *

I prefer to play on hard since the difficulty doesn't rise that much and you can get amnesia shards

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post Jan 15 2017, 12:58
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Yeah I was considering playing Hard for the shards. And also because now I think my Power set can survive it without spamming Sparks.
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post Jan 15 2017, 13:42
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jan 15 2017, 11:58) *

Yeah I was considering playing Hard for the shards. And also because now I think my Power set can survive it without spamming Sparks.


It's A rule of thumb, realy: Make Sure You're Hard When Facing Schoolgirls (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jan 15 2017, 13:55
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jan 15 2017, 12:42) *

It's A rule of thumb, realy: Make Sure You're Hard When Facing Schoolgirls (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


If it's Yuki, no problem. But Konata... I just won't find out how to be hard. She has low stamina anyway. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
I'm working on making my Longsword sharpier than ever so they feel it better. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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