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post Oct 28 2016, 14:35
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Oct 28 2016, 14:34) *

Yeah and there's always PF RE, which while not consistently profitable, does land me a surprising number of artifacts and all my successfully auctioned gear came from there.

yep. time needed: less than one minute each.
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post Oct 28 2016, 14:57
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 28 2016, 05:35) *

yep. time needed: less than one minute each.

All I need is one piece of good gear to make RE more profitable than hours of Arenas... c'mon, system, gimme one!
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post Oct 28 2016, 15:43
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Oct 28 2016, 12:57) *
All I need is one piece of good gear to make RE more profitable than hours of Arenas... c'mon, system, gimme one!
It's not uncommon in games for there to be very rare high value items in some situations. It's not too easy to rationally consider high-value, low-probability situations, especially when said value and probability isn't well known. "I only need a single X drop to justify expenses/time Y!" But in these sorts of situations, a perspective I figured out a while ago and have found very useful is to assume rare drops are fixed after a certain amount of grinding in the future, which is of course dependent on how much you play (but if you keep playing, you'll certainly get the drops eventually).

For instance, I don't think "I have a tiny chance of getting something good this battle series." Instead, I like to think "If I play another battle series now, I'll be a bit closer to an inevitable good drop in the future." More of a steady progression than a lottery. In the long run, the outlook is just as accurate, but much easier to think about.
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post Oct 28 2016, 15:54
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Oct 28 2016, 14:11) *

TL;dr: I need to clear SG arenas in 30 mins. My upgrades are aimed at achieving that.

PFUDOR?
After 70-80M spent, prof forging, customized reloader script, perks and 4t/s line if I get lucky and manage to get good times on all the three SG arenas I can finish them in 30-31 minutes (my best times are 14m23s, 9m36s and 6m47s). (actually I could get better times if I manage to find a good phase robe)
Good luck doing the same (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Oct 28 2016, 14:23) *

Getting Sparked is perfectly fine. I often get Sparked every minute as mage sometimes, it's nothing to worry about unless you get Spirit Potion and Spirit Elixir and Last Elixir all on CD.

At IWBTHfest as mage.
It's worrying If he gets sparked during PFUDOR arenas with 1H.
You shouldn't even need to cure with 1H.

QUOTE(jacquelope @ Oct 28 2016, 14:11) *
SG arenas are trash on high difficulty, and only OK-ish on low difficulty. Feel free to skip them completely.

SG arenas are an acquired taste (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Oct 28 2016, 16:37
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Oct 28 2016, 15:43) *

It's not uncommon in games for there to be very rare high value items in some situations. It's not too easy to rationally consider high-value, low-probability situations, especially when said value and probability isn't well known. "I only need a single X drop to justify expenses/time Y!" But in these sorts of situations, a perspective I figured out a while ago and have found very useful is to assume rare drops are fixed after a certain amount of grinding in the future, which is of course dependent on how much you play (but if you keep playing, you'll certainly get the drops eventually).

For instance, I don't think "I have a tiny chance of getting something good this battle series." Instead, I like to think "If I play another battle series now, I'll be a bit closer to an inevitable good drop in the future." More of a steady progression than a lottery. In the long run, the outlook is just as accurate, but much easier to think about.

surely optimistic sir. what i can say is that - at least for me - REs have a decent quality roll.

QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Oct 28 2016, 15:54) *

SG arenas are an acquired taste (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

let's say something like +60k worth of trophies daily or so, plus 3 tokens granted and a variable amount of dropped ones, plus a handful of artifacts. not mandatory, but they may shave a bit of your balance if you do them at low difficulties. in the long run, if you use a melee set even if you had to burn an ED to do them you may still be on positive
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post Oct 28 2016, 23:07
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Oct 28 2016, 16:43) *

It's not uncommon in games for there to be very rare high value items in some situations. It's not too easy to rationally consider high-value, low-probability situations, especially when said value and probability isn't well known. "I only need a single X drop to justify expenses/time Y!" But in these sorts of situations, a perspective I figured out a while ago and have found very useful is to assume rare drops are fixed after a certain amount of grinding in the future, which is of course dependent on how much you play (but if you keep playing, you'll certainly get the drops eventually).

For instance, I don't think "I have a tiny chance of getting something good this battle series." Instead, I like to think "If I play another battle series now, I'll be a bit closer to an inevitable good drop in the future." More of a steady progression than a lottery. In the long run, the outlook is just as accurate, but much easier to think about.

I agree with you, the drops seem surprisingly consistent over time. At this point I can almost predict what amount of arenas I need to clear to get a Legendary drop. On some days when I feel like the "grind timer" is close I can do one extra SG arena or some PFUDORfest and the drop is almost guaranteed. If it doesn't happen, it will likely drop very soon anyway. Same with things like Artifacts, a certain amount of grinding will eventually get you some and even ED rate is somewhat consistent in the long run.

There is no reliable quick profit in this game as far as I'm concerned. It's just a never ending grind with more or less predictable income.
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post Oct 28 2016, 23:11
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QUOTE(Logii @ Oct 28 2016, 23:07) *

There is no reliable quick profit in this game as far as I'm concerned. It's just a never ending grind with more or less predictable income.


yeah... we all love a good grind! Just to be able to grind faster. So we can grind more in the same amount of grind-time. And then we grind some more. ...I'm outta here, gotta grind!
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post Oct 28 2016, 23:27
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Oct 28 2016, 23:11) *

yeah... we all love a good grind!

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post Oct 29 2016, 15:08
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I was just for a moment considering bidding on that LARD that's in auction today. But in no time the bids went over 20M. Well, a good LARD these days is hard to find, so I guess I'll be gentle with this LARDof mine. Fregal Sharkey told us this already many years ago.

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Edit Feargul? Fregul? Well, you know...

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post Oct 29 2016, 16:19
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Hath are down to 5.1~5.3k (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
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post Oct 29 2016, 16:59
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ Oct 29 2016, 16:19) *

Hath are down to 5.1~5.3k (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)


Yeah, I noticed. Probably a good moment to go for the next damage hath perk. That would be 6000 hath, for me... I have 128. hmmm, maybe I should wait until hath is down to 1000 c...
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post Oct 29 2016, 17:24
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I was selling my hath to the exchange to pay off my debt faster, but I guess I'm not doing it anymore for a while (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
I need hath too for perks so selling when they go down is bad (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Oct 29 2016, 17:31
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Yeah, nice time to buy hath but I'm broke. Maybe time to auction sth for my crystal perk.
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post Oct 29 2016, 18:27
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QUOTE(arialinnoc @ Oct 29 2016, 22:31) *

Yeah, nice time to buy hath but I'm broke. Maybe time to auction sth for my crystal perk.

cryst5 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

sth ???
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post Oct 29 2016, 18:45
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sth ???

I can't identify any item with that acronym (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Oct 29 2016, 18:50
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QUOTE(arialinnoc @ Oct 29 2016, 23:31) *

Yeah, nice time to buy hath but I'm broke. Maybe time to auction sth for my crystal perk.

You are broken because you are active. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
You will be rich when you retire. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

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post Oct 29 2016, 22:36
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Oct 29 2016, 23:27) *

cryst5 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


yup

QUOTE(Colman @ Oct 29 2016, 23:50) *

You are broken because you are active. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
You will be rich when you retire. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)


^this really hit me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Oct 29 2016, 22:41
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So if I retire, who will give me 100000 hath and 1b credits? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Oct 29 2016, 23:32
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QUOTE(Colman @ Oct 29 2016, 18:50) *

You are broken because you are active. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
You will be rich when you retire. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)


True words of wisdom.

QUOTE(ppp82p @ Oct 29 2016, 22:41) *

So if I retire, who will give me 100000 hath and 1b credits? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)


Tenboro (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Oct 30 2016, 02:06
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Wow wtf happened to hath prices? I wonder if I should sell all my hath now, just to avoid even bigger disaster :<
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