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Oct 24 2016, 20:46
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-Shun-
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 25 2016, 02:41) 
not sure why, but when i see mini-me i (almost) always remember about Foxxy Cleopatra...
Dont forget Alota Fagina, Ivana Hampalot and the sisters Fook Mi and Fook Yu (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Oct 24 2016, 21:09
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-The Dashing Dash-
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ Oct 24 2016, 14:44) But he offers 30m, jenga was asking 200m Personally I think the right price is in the middle (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) We'll see tomorrow/wednesday (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) 30M seems low, but I think that's for the peerless power of slaughter he's trying to buy. I think the Offer above peerless estoc ... means he's asking for offers, not necessarily 30M. |
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Oct 24 2016, 21:37
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(IshimaruShun @ Oct 24 2016, 20:46) Dont forget Alota Fagina, Ivana Hampalot and the sisters Fook Mi and Fook Yu (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) and Felicity Shagwell and Vanessa Kensington... QUOTE(ppp82p @ Oct 24 2016, 20:44) But he offers 30m, jenga was asking 200m Personally I think the right price is in the middle (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) 30M or another Peerless. not sure a Peerless Power of Slaughter at an auction could go for 30M. i mean, how many of those are there around? either way yep, even if you take into account all the bindings, materials, IW and whatnot... 200M is still quite a lot. i also think it will be in the middle, let's say 50~75? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) |
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Oct 24 2016, 23:57
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Juggernaut Santa
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 24 2016, 21:37) either way yep, even if you take into account all the bindings, materials, IW and whatnot... 200M is still quite a lot. i also think it will be in the middle, let's say 50~75? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) 100 at most, but probably less. Unless tomorrow 0.85 pops up and overpowers 2H and nerfs heavily 1H at the same time. |
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Oct 26 2016, 04:33
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RoadShoe
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Oct 26 2016, 21:16
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cichy133
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Oct 26 2016, 22:07
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(cichy133 @ Oct 26 2016, 21:16) hmmm... seems so-so. with a Savage/Agile prefix would've been better, but at least it's bound to a mid level. try auction it. |
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Oct 26 2016, 22:08
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Superlatanium
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Fleet rarely gets minimum bid, and yours' ADB is in 24th percentile. Not worth holding onto Also, cough |
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Oct 27 2016, 05:01
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jacquelope
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So lemme get this straight, if you boost a Rapier of Slaughter up to Physical Damage lv 100, you've paid out the ass for 95 bindings of slaughter only to boost your damage by... 1000?
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Oct 27 2016, 05:22
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Juggernaut Santa
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Yes. You boost your ADB by a certain amount that is around that value...but probably something more on damage.
Without considering the Spirit Stance of course.
This post has been edited by ppp82p: Oct 27 2016, 05:23
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Oct 27 2016, 11:01
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Oct 27 2016, 05:01)
So lemme get this straight, if you boost a Rapier of Slaughter up to Physical Damage lv 100, you've paid out the ass for 95 bindings of slaughter
nope. much more, if you consider catalysts and materials too. if you sum them up, it may be worth "only" 2 more bindings or so, but still a plusvalue QUOTE(jacquelope @ Oct 27 2016, 05:01)
only to boost your damage by... 1000?
+67% of your rapier damage, which directly sums up to your global ADB. past a certain point and if you really want to sink your credits into bindings of slaughter, you may prefer to consider forging armors as well. maybe a bit higher cost, but better ROI for sure |
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Oct 27 2016, 12:27
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jacquelope
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 27 2016, 02:01)
nope. much more, if you consider catalysts and materials too. if you sum them up, it may be worth "only" 2 more bindings or so, but still a plusvalue
+67% of your rapier damage, which directly sums up to your global ADB. past a certain point and if you really want to sink your credits into bindings of slaughter, you may prefer to consider forging armors as well. maybe a bit higher cost, but better ROI for sure
I'm trying to figure out whether that path is better, or saving up to switch to maging? |
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Oct 27 2016, 13:15
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Oct 27 2016, 12:27)
I'm trying to figure out whether that path is better, or saving up to switch to maging?
not sure. personally i think that if you don't grind too much (read: if you don't mind too much one-shot almost everything with a single hit, i'm cool like a swimming pool blah blah), melee may be a better option since it will be harder for them to be rendered completely useless by a single patch - and should it happen just after you'll switch to mage, most likely you'll have burnt a whole ton of credits for nothing. with this being said, as for what and when to forge, uh - we can say that a Rapier of Slaughter has higher ADB than every armor slot, but due to the logarithmic gain it will surely come a point in which forging an armor slot will give you more ADB than forging the rapier. you should do a bit of math to check when exactly, but i guess it's safe to say that if you have (just saying) 15 bindings, you can sink all of them into the rapier. if you have 50 of them you may want to use 30 on the rapier, 15 on the armor and 5 on the leggings. also, while forging a stat into an armor requires an actuator worth... uh... 60k? 70? whatever - you will surely forge other stats (let's say STR, DEX, END, PMI, Crit?), so that 60~70k should be divided by the number of stats to forge. in the end, forging ADB on an armor may require you "only" 10k more than doing it on the rapier. This post has been edited by Scremaz: Oct 27 2016, 13:16 |
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Oct 27 2016, 21:12
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Honeycat
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Why did I get a captcha when I logged in today? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) I logged in on the forum page. Never got one of those before. |
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Oct 27 2016, 21:31
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jacquelope
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 27 2016, 04:15)
not sure. personally i think that if you don't grind too much (read: if you don't mind too much one-shot almost everything with a single hit, i'm cool like a swimming pool blah blah), melee may be a better option since it will be harder for them to be rendered completely useless by a single patch - and should it happen just after you'll switch to mage, most likely you'll have burnt a whole ton of credits for nothing.
with this being said, as for what and when to forge, uh - we can say that a Rapier of Slaughter has higher ADB than every armor slot, but due to the logarithmic gain it will surely come a point in which forging an armor slot will give you more ADB than forging the rapier. you should do a bit of math to check when exactly, but i guess it's safe to say that if you have (just saying) 15 bindings, you can sink all of them into the rapier. if you have 50 of them you may want to use 30 on the rapier, 15 on the armor and 5 on the leggings.
also, while forging a stat into an armor requires an actuator worth... uh... 60k? 70? whatever - you will surely forge other stats (let's say STR, DEX, END, PMI, Crit?), so that 60~70k should be divided by the number of stats to forge. in the end, forging ADB on an armor may require you "only" 10k more than doing it on the rapier.
Yeah the actuator thing is unavoidable for power armor so I just suck it up when it comes to that, though at 16 million credits I ain't gonna get far with forging. If I'm going to play 1H for a long time henceforth I will be looking to forge my rapier plus my power armor, and maybe upgrade the power armor first; my magnificents are rapidly becoming the new exquisites. 7432 ABD@L371 doesn't feel right, though I am already wary of bidwarring for Leg slaughter. |
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Oct 27 2016, 21:45
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Oct 27 2016, 21:31)
Yeah the actuator thing is unavoidable for power armor so I just suck it up when it comes to that, though at 16 million credits I ain't gonna get far with forging. If I'm going to play 1H for a long time henceforth I will be looking to forge my rapier plus my power armor, and maybe upgrade the power armor first; my magnificents are rapidly becoming the new exquisites. 7432 ABD@L371 doesn't feel right, though I am already wary of bidwarring for Leg slaughter.
just FYI, i was at roughly 7400 till a couple of weeks ago and could go anywhere (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
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Oct 27 2016, 23:53
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Juggernaut Santa
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Oct 27 2016, 21:31)
Yeah the actuator thing is unavoidable for power armor so I just suck it up when it comes to that, though at 16 million credits I ain't gonna get far with forging. If I'm going to play 1H for a long time henceforth I will be looking to forge my rapier plus my power armor, and maybe upgrade the power armor first; my magnificents are rapidly becoming the new exquisites. 7432 ABD@L371 doesn't feel right, though I am already wary of bidwarring for Leg slaughter.
Sometimes I'm guessing if we're playing the same game (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) You seem to struggle playing every time you write something...(IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) With 1h, that adb and your level, you should play like this: hover, hover, hover, recast buff, hover hover, recast buff, hover, hover, mana draught, hover hover, spirit draught, hover hover, recast buff, hover, arena/RE/RoB finished QUOTE(jacquelope @ Oct 27 2016, 12:27)
I'm trying to figure out whether that path is better, or saving up to switch to maging?
jfyi, if you're worried about money, maging is way more expensive than melee*, and you'll lose your "safe playing". Plus, you'll be faster right (after spending a lot of credits of course), but you will have to: imperil every round and you have to aim specific monsters (aka goodbye doing things without paying much attention at the battle screen), if you're resisted doing it again, clicking mana potions and elixirs continously, use scrolls to conserve mana, and so on. And this means that you will be buying stuff every once and then to mantain yourself. Too much effort and time for a better result. *Actuator+BoS reaches barely the cost of a Phazon, then you still need 6 HGC and BoD for mage 1h is way better in that perspective. No tecnique needed, no difficulty. Just cast Regen and Heartseeker, hover and use a mana draught or a spirit draught once in a while. This all without risking to die at any time. And your restoratives stocks will overflow everywhere. And if your restoratives don't increase but decrease, it's only because you don't have a gold star yet. But you can get the RR perk for that if you aren't in a hurry for a GS This post has been edited by ppp82p: Oct 27 2016, 23:56 |
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