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post Oct 23 2016, 05:10
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ Oct 23 2016, 01:53) *
Just have a quick look on his banlist.
It's not me not liking him. But him not liking half the hv active community on this section (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
It's true. It's not just ppp82p, it's everyone.

Shop elsewhere, don't get ripped off... (well, for any shopper who has limited funds (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif))
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post Oct 23 2016, 06:53
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 22 2016, 17:05) *

do you mind sending me a list of what you have?

You have a PM!
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post Oct 23 2016, 07:30
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QUOTE(jenga201 @ Oct 22 2016, 17:17) *

I could counter this with how many times you've won something and I didn't.
If somebody were to look at past lottery winners, you're most likely #1.

Yes. Winning lots of trash. I just want to say that my chances of winning good stuff seems unreasonably low (I mean, after the 20k tickets ceiling was implemented). If 10B says winning in 1 lottery would decrease the chances of winning in another one, that I could refrain from buying tickets in those. But then it's more likely that I would be gone for good.

QUOTE(jacquelope @ Oct 22 2016, 23:22) *

Fabulous! All the past buyers of non-Precursor artifacts and stuff (Crystal Snowman, Annoying Dog, Reindeer Antlers, Heart Locket) are away on vacay somewhere.

Anyone seen K.A., StonyCat, Atomicpuppy, or jcullinane as of late?

I still take trophies if you want to sell me, just that I no longer bump my threads.

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post Oct 23 2016, 11:45
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QUOTE(jenga201 @ Oct 23 2016, 03:14) *

I guess it's different when the player doesn't have maxed trainings and perks.

I would rather have +1 ADB than go from 30000 HP to 31400 HP >.>

well, +1 ADB is negligible at my level already, letting apart at yours. either way, at my level 1 STR ~ 1.33 ADB. i guess at yours it may be 1 STR ~ 1 ADB. an average STR roll may be... uh... 80 at your level? forge it a bit and it'll surely be 100,, thus roughly +100 ADB. something like 1.2% for me, i guess for you it may be something like 0.5% or so. 1400 HP out of 30k means +4.2%.
i prefer +4.2% safety above < 1.2% offense, but a matter of perspective, i guess.

QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Oct 23 2016, 03:17) *

For 1H attack speed decreases the amount of counters and OC you get, so it ends up a bit slower (don't remember the actual time of haste vs not-haste, but usually not-haste is visibly faster).
Because of that AGI is actually useless for 1H.

AGI also means more PMI, so it's not completely useless. and to boost 1 Evade you need 25 AGI. simply take that, don't forge it and lower your PAB. or do nothing and enjoy your 6% Evade.

QUOTE(jenga201 @ Oct 23 2016, 03:24) *

I'm not sure it's enough to totally ignore shields without END on them, though.

not sure either. but variety is the spicy of life.

QUOTE(sssss2 @ Oct 23 2016, 03:28) *

And, Mithril is an absolutely useless prefix.

^ especially on Bucklers. i'd rather prefer Reinforced.

QUOTE(jenga201 @ Oct 23 2016, 03:31) *

Piyin's was the first one I came across in the Lrange, yet ppp82p seems to think I made an incredibly foolish choice in my purchase.

without even taking into account personal tastes, that's a pre-.82 buckler, so its block is quite lower if compared with a 0.82 one. not sure if it was a mistake, but it may have affected your test for sure.
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Oct 23 2016, 06:53) *

You have a PM!

noted it.

QUOTE(jenga201 @ Oct 22 2016, 19:17) *

I could counter this with how many times you've won something and I didn't.
If somebody were to look at past lottery winners, you're most likely #1.
QUOTE(StonyCat @ Oct 23 2016, 07:30) *

Yes. Winning lots of trash. I just want to say that my chances of winning good stuff seems unreasonably low (I mean, after the 20k tickets ceiling was implemented). If 10B says winning in 1 lottery would decrease the chances of winning in another one, that I could refrain from buying tickets in those. But then it's more likely that I would be gone for good.

please, sirs, do realize what you're speaking about, both of you. if you're simply discussing about the odds of winning and such, it's one thing. otherwise i could bet that most of the people around here may see this just as a debate among two long-streak raffle winners about who's winning more in terms of quantity and/or quality, when 90% of them couldn't even stand a chance to a fragments trophy to begin with.
both of you are doing so much for this site, this is not worth two higherups like you are.
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post Oct 23 2016, 13:23
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Any estimated price for full legendary, post patch holy/dark set? Also is there any price difference between them?
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post Oct 23 2016, 13:35
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QUOTE(cichy133 @ Oct 23 2016, 11:23) *
Any estimated price for full legendary, post patch holy/dark set? Also is there any price difference between them?
Holy costs moderately more (and is a bit better).

It really depends on how good you want the gears to be. Assuming you're willing to spend a moderate number of soul fragments on each (say, soulfuse from 400-425 or so down to your level), you could probably get mediocre Legendary phases for 50k-200k each. Same for standard moderate proficiency cotton. They're quite common and cheap. The real problem is the staff, for which getting a matching type is pretty rare (and therefore valuable and expensive). The best types with moderate stats could go for 4m-15m. If you settled for a worse but still matching type (for instance, proficiency or EDB suffix) (all of these are Legendary of course), you might be able to find one for 200k-400k. They're not common, but they're not that desirable either, so there's little competition and price isn't high.

So a full "mediocre to moderate usable legendary set" could be bought for under 1m, if you have enough fragments. If you want good gears (such as gears worth forging), and not just OK-ish gears that you're happy to just be Legendary, price starts increasing dramatically, and you could pay 10 or 100 times that for a set, or more. Unless you're rich, avoid Radiant unless EDB is trash, else it'll cost too much, especially if Heimdall.
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post Oct 23 2016, 15:52
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Oct 23 2016, 19:35) *

Holy costs moderately more (and is a bit better).

Unless you're rich, avoid Radiant unless EDB is trash, else it'll cost too much, especially if Heimdall.


which one is better is depends on how to play. non-imperil /imperil.
holy is better for non-imperil since the proc.
and dark is better for imperil. dark mage can use williw which gives tons of deprecting prof. and makes imperil almost unresistable.
and holy obviously didn't get access to that kind of staff.

and Lmin EDB radiant sucks. it just like a Mag radiant.
Lmin EDB charged much better.

but if your budget is low and you want holy/dark
you absolutely need imperil.
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post Oct 23 2016, 18:18
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QUOTE(StonyCat @ Oct 23 2016, 01:30) *

Yes. Winning lots of trash. I just want to say that my chances of winning good stuff seems unreasonably low (I mean, after the 20k tickets ceiling was implemented). If 10B says winning in 1 lottery would decrease the chances of winning in another one, that I could refrain from buying tickets in those. But then it's more likely that I would be gone for good.


Well, honestly you've just convinced me to stop participating in the lottery for a while.
The only thing I'm after is chaos tokens. The only thing I've won are fantastic items that I can't use.

Time to see if grinding chaos is even viable.
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post Oct 23 2016, 18:52
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QUOTE(jenga201 @ Oct 23 2016, 23:18) *

Well, honestly you've just convinced me to stop participating in the lottery for a while.
The only thing I'm after is chaos tokens. The only thing I've won are fantastic items that I can't use.

Time to see if grinding chaos is even viable.


Gc win chaos token prize quite frequently (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Oct 24 2016, 03:04
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What strike will it get? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)


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post Oct 24 2016, 03:13
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Fire!!
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post Oct 24 2016, 03:14
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I'm literally on the last round.
Anyone else? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)


Edit: wind

So all my 2h weapons are destined to get wind (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

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post Oct 24 2016, 10:38
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Oct 23 2016, 13:35) *

Holy costs moderately more (and is a bit better).

It really depends on how good you want the gears to be. Assuming you're willing to spend a moderate number of soul fragments on each (say, soulfuse from 400-425 or so down to your level), you could probably get mediocre Legendary phases for 50k-200k each. Same for standard moderate proficiency cotton. They're quite common and cheap. The real problem is the staff, for which getting a matching type is pretty rare (and therefore valuable and expensive). The best types with moderate stats could go for 4m-15m. If you settled for a worse but still matching type (for instance, proficiency or EDB suffix) (all of these are Legendary of course), you might be able to find one for 200k-400k. They're not common, but they're not that desirable either, so there's little competition and price isn't high.

So a full "mediocre to moderate usable legendary set" could be bought for under 1m, if you have enough fragments. If you want good gears (such as gears worth forging), and not just OK-ish gears that you're happy to just be Legendary, price starts increasing dramatically, and you could pay 10 or 100 times that for a set, or more. Unless you're rich, avoid Radiant unless EDB is trash, else it'll cost too much, especially if Heimdall.


Great answer, thanks.
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post Oct 24 2016, 10:53
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ Oct 24 2016, 03:04) *

seems a good IW to me
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post Oct 24 2016, 12:11
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 24 2016, 10:53) *

seems a good IW to me

I didn't want the OP (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
But 7/9 good I'll keep it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
Also Wind Strike is quite nice, the Frost Spike slows monsters (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

I tried to start iw in almost everything I had but estoc trolled me at Iw6 (but 4 fat 1 and then...ss1 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) ) and the other mace twice (from but 1 fat 2 ss1 to but 1 fat 2 ss 3 ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
The longsword got good of course, talk about usefulness (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

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post Oct 24 2016, 12:38
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ Oct 24 2016, 12:11) *

I didn't want the OP (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

and i didn't want Swift on my waki (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE(ppp82p @ Oct 24 2016, 12:11) *

But 7/9 good I'll keep it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

btw, it's not that useless either. afterall you still have to land the first blow and OP can help with that.

QUOTE(ppp82p @ Oct 24 2016, 12:11) *

I tried to start iw in almost everything I had but estoc trolled me at Iw6 (but 4 fat 1 and then...ss1 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) ) and the other mace twice (from but 1 fat 2 ss1 to but 1 fat 2 ss 3 ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
The longsword got good of course, talk about usefulness (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

But4 Fat1 SS1 is still good. But1 Fat2 SS3 is really... uh... improvable?
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post Oct 24 2016, 12:49
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 24 2016, 12:38) *

But4 Fat1 SS1 is still good. But1 Fat2 SS3 is really... uh... improvable?

Estoc with no OP? No good.
The other mace was "max ss2"...it's already ss3 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Oct 24 2016, 15:22
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I posted a poll about lottery prizes in the FFF. Go answer it if you care.
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post Oct 24 2016, 15:43
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waiting for the first one to post that chances of winning are actually unrelevant (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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post Oct 24 2016, 16:53
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QUOTE(blackjac00 @ Aug 10 2016, 04:22) *

WTB

Equipment
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Peerless Ethereal Estoc of Slauhter


QUOTE(jenga201 @ Oct 22 2016, 13:17) *

My forged estoc will be up for auction, soon. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


Just when jenga finally puts his estoc to auction...
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