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post Oct 17 2016, 10:33
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Oct 17 2016, 07:56) *
Wait, what if they both start out at 36?
Then the player with the equip should salvage on sight, since that's not to far from Force's Lmin block.

Looking at recent auctions, even pretty high block Force above 400 often doesn't sell at all, or gets only minimum bid. So I considered 38 block = 80th percentile = 50k is an OK guesstimate.
QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Oct 17 2016, 07:43) *
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Oops, my bad, comparing each at the same forge level implies nothing useful.

Kite forged block catches up to Force's base block at Kite forge 3.1, Kite of course costs more per block% overall
Kite costs 100k @ forge 8.25 => 40.3 block, Force 100k @ forge 5.7 => 41.4 block
Kite 300k @ 14 => 42.3 block. Force 300k @ 11 => 43.6 block
Kite 1m @ 26.5 => 45.3 block. Force 1m @ 23 => 47 block

I'm sure there's a better way to do that, oh well. Difference keeps widening. Kite is never better. Difference is even wider when you forge more than one attribute.

So I guess that's the reason why almost all Kite doesn't even get minimum bid

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post Oct 17 2016, 10:49
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QUOTE(yukikiss @ Oct 17 2016, 03:51) *

nobody likes kite (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

and i guess kite need some love from 10b (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

re-introducing Barrier suffix, so Block from Kite of Barrier = Block from Force would be enough.


as for Force vs. Kite, the only advantage in using a P-like Kite against a Force is that you would spare matrixes. all the other costs are pretty much the same.
but if you consider how rare (read: expensive) P-like Kites and Matrixes worth only 8~10k (less than Shade fragments!), all the benefits go out of the window. let's say you'll upgrade Block and PABs, it's only +2k per stat. even less if you throw in MMI or PMI. same forge gains (on percentage), higher starting point. there shouldn't be problems realizing which one will earn the upper hand.

QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Oct 17 2016, 03:57) *

if he still active grinding , maybe he will reach 1B credits (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
we can always ask tenb about this (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

pretty sure he will gladly ask you. and i'm also pretty sure the entity of the wallets of other users isn't our business, if they don't want to share with us such infos to begin with.

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btw, whining every time about being poor is a good way to lure everyone into looking into your trades.


QUOTE(skillchip @ Oct 17 2016, 05:15) *

Only you can help datamine to unlock the secrets of the HV, which I may share someday if you unlock enough of them.

well, having the mind to process them is already a big conquer, i'd say
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post Oct 17 2016, 10:58
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Oct 17 2016, 10:33) *

Kite forged block catches up to Force's base block at Kite forge 3.1, Kite of course costs more per block% overall
Kite costs 100k @ forge 8.25 => 40.3 block, Force 100k @ forge 5.7 => 41.4 block
Kite 300k @ 14 => 42.3 block. Force 300k @ 11 => 43.6 block
Kite 1m @ 26.5 => 45.3 block. Force 1m @ 23 => 47 block

I'm sure there's a better way to do that, oh well. Difference keeps widening. Kite is never better. Difference is even wider when you forge more than one attribute.

exactly. in order to make up for such forever-widening gap, Kites should have at least a higher Block to start with and keeping all the other stats at the same level as they already are. at that point, the slightly higher BUR of Kites would be bear-able.
but we already have Forces and Bucklers of Barrier, so i don't really think it's a priority.


btw, could you please add something like "snip" on Sapo's quote? the system doesn't like when you quote posts with empty quotes.
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post Oct 17 2016, 16:34
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Oct 17 2016, 05:56) *

Well, hey, at least I don't get scammed into shelling out extra credits for Defense Matrix Modulators to get to the same block %. Though if I want to increase my odds of raising my elem/holy profs the ludicrously high ITR of force shields might be of slight help...

Use a buckler.
Who cares about interference in 1H.
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post Oct 18 2016, 01:48
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65 rounds of IWBTH in a 1.3x multiplier arena gives me as much exp as 100 rounds of hell with 2.0x bonus exp.
I could get used to this (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

then again it took 4k turns
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post Oct 18 2016, 01:57
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arenas and REs have the best multiplier for EXP. on the other hand, GF has the best multiplier for crystals. just saying
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post Oct 18 2016, 02:42
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ Oct 17 2016, 16:34) *

Who cares about interference in 1H.


*raise hand* I do.
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post Oct 18 2016, 02:53
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ Oct 17 2016, 10:34) *

Who cares about interference in 1H.

I did.
But then I realized draughts are barely costing me 2k credits credits a week (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Oct 18 2016, 05:51
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 17 2016, 08:49) *

well, having the mind to process them is already a big conquer, i'd say


My mind needs more data
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post Oct 18 2016, 07:04
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QUOTE(skillchip @ Oct 17 2016, 17:51) *

My mind needs more data


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post Oct 18 2016, 08:25
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QUOTE(Stulpen @ Oct 17 2016, 17:42) *

*raise hand* I do.

Me, too. But to be honest I am also spamming the hell out of T3 Elem spells and T1 holy spells for a future conversion to mage.
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post Oct 18 2016, 08:37
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Oct 18 2016, 06:25) *
Me, too. But to be honest I am also spamming the hell out of T3 Elem spells and T1 holy spells for a future conversion to mage.
If I were you, don't seriously work on prof until you're actually going to convert in the next level or two; the higher level, the more proficiency gained per time spent. Grind prof on crude IW only with specialized equips, not in serious battles with your normal gear.
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post Oct 18 2016, 10:51
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QUOTE(Stulpen @ Oct 18 2016, 02:42) *

*raise hand* I do.

why sir? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

QUOTE(skillchip @ Oct 18 2016, 05:51) *

My mind needs more data

what in particular?
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post Oct 18 2016, 15:17
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How? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
My mana draught stock is continuously increasing, even with 125~130 interference.
I don't even use mana potions...
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post Oct 18 2016, 15:45
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You maybe only need mana pot on PFfest with 1H if your damage and block is not high enough (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


If high enough , you only need draughts for PFfest like void or sssss (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Oct 18 2016, 16:08
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 18 2016, 10:51) *

why sir? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


Because!
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post Oct 18 2016, 18:15
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 18 2016, 08:51) *

what in particular?


ALL the data.

Still cant get quality/PXP0 to convert correctly from base stats.
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post Oct 18 2016, 23:16
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QUOTE(skillchip @ Oct 18 2016, 06:15) *

ALL the data.


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post Oct 20 2016, 13:56
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QUOTE(Diddy_ @ Oct 18 2016, 01:48) *

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65 rounds of IWBTH in a 1.3x multiplier arena gives me as much exp as 100 rounds of hell with 2.0x bonus exp.
I could get used to this (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

then again it took 4k turns


1 hour of clicking must be painful xd
Thank god it's way behind me already.
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post Oct 20 2016, 19:19
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Why doesn't HV have in game pizza ordering?

Maybe e-h could partner with Burger King to deliver the new Mayonator!

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