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post Apr 5 2011, 15:32
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It seem that DOM Strike chance is rolled on a per enemy basis... How did I missed it for so long?! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)


This is why Melee sucks. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Apr 5 2011, 16:53
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Actually, i can understand why people value those mjolnir and surtr phase clothes, as they has impact on your nomal IW
I can also understand that fenrir clothes have their value in fighting legends and gods

But why heimdall clothes also have some value? Isn't it just as normal as heaven-sent clothes, considering that there is no powerful holy spells?
Or because they are collector's items?
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post Apr 5 2011, 17:00
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QUOTE(varst @ Apr 5 2011, 07:53) *

Actually, i can understand why people value those mjolnir and surtr phase clothes, as they has impact on your nomal IW
I can also understand that fenrir clothes have their value in fighting legends and gods

But why heimdall clothes also have some value? Isn't it just as normal as heaven-sent clothes, considering that there is no powerful holy spells?
Or because they are collector's items?



QUOTE(Conquest101 @ Apr 3 2011, 01:11) *

15 17 You gain 79588 Credits!
15 16 You gain 167697.01 EXP!
15 15 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
15 14 Arena Token Bonus! [Token of Healing]
15 13 Arena Clear Bonus! [Fine Dagger of Slaughter]
15 12 Manthra dropped [Godly Mana Potion]
15 11 Ryouko Asakura dropped [Hinamatsuri Doll]
15 10 Apathetic Canuck dropped [Average Buckler of the Fleet]
15 9 Mikuru Asahina dropped [Bunny-Girl Costume]
15 8 Yuki Nagato dropped [Broken Glasses]
15 7 Mind Raper dropped [Godly Mana Potion]
15 6 Amphibious Sperm Whale dropped [Crystal of Knowledge]
15 5 You are Victorious!
15 4 Regen II restores 503 points of health.
15 3 Mikuru Asahina has been defeated.
15 2 Banish blasts Mikuru Asahina for 66205 holy damage.
15 1 You cast Banish.

That is an incredibly depressing Arena Clear Bonus.
Got 56 Trophies though.
Well, in a pure trophy gaining consideration, that's more efficient than doing the other 4 arenas, since it took me 2 hours and 5 minutes to do that. Versus the nearly 3 hours it would take me to run the other 4.


I value it because I use it to butt-rape 500+ Legendaries in 2 hours. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Though apparently I'm in the minority as far as using Holy for the Legendary arenas over Soul.

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post Apr 5 2011, 17:04
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QUOTE(varst @ Apr 5 2011, 15:53) *

I can also understand that fenrir clothes have their value in fighting legends and gods
Not fenrir, soul dmg isn't increase by dark, only forbidden prof. Fenrir is only good for IPU.

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post Apr 5 2011, 17:29
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Apr 5 2011, 23:04) *

Not fenrir, soul dmg isn't increase by dark, only forbidden prof. Fenrir is only good for IPU.


Most probably. So going back to demon-fiend for Trio and the legends?
Then i should have
elementalist for normal IW
Demon-fiend for Trio and othe IW with Legends
Heimdall for FSM
fenrir for IPU
curse-weaver for RL

Wow. that's a huge collector's list!
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post Apr 5 2011, 17:51
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QUOTE(Conquest101 @ Apr 5 2011, 17:00) *

I value it because I use it to butt-rape 500+ Legendaries in 2 hours. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Though apparently I'm in the minority as far as using Holy for the Legendary arenas over Soul.

Damn I need to fine more Heimdall Phase (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Apr 5 2011, 18:02
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QUOTE(varst @ Apr 5 2011, 16:29) *

Most probably. So going back to demon-fiend for Trio and the legends?
Then i should have
elementalist for normal IW
Demon-fiend for Trio and othe IW with Legends
Heimdall for FSM
fenrir for IPU
curse-weaver for RL

Wow. that's a huge collector's list!
You don't need all of that, and it's not like that.
Here's the "combinations":
IW/Arenas->mjolnir,surtr,elementalist IMO Wind and Cold versions are good too (People raising elec/fire monster's resistances *hint*)
Fox/demon-fiend-> RL/IPU/EoD+ arenas
Heimdall/heaven-sent-> legends/FSM/EoD+ arenas
Curse-weaver->IWBTH Gods
Fenrir->IPU

Curse-weaver and fenrir are dispensable, it's just for speeding up.



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post Apr 5 2011, 18:07
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Apr 5 2011, 18:02) *


(People raising elec/fire monster's resistances *hint*)

Lies!

By the way there is some guy hording wind and Cold Crystals (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Apr 5 2011, 18:20
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Apr 5 2011, 17:07) *

By the way there is some guy hording wind and Cold Crystals (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
It could be a lot more if more people start selling (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
I'm only interested on raising Holy Bell, so fire and elec too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

The 5 "elemental" monsters which I have the intent of capping a single element on each one, it's a loooong time thing, and they won't be raised with stat points, so they'll be always weak.
That's at least my idea for now, of course things can change.
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post Apr 5 2011, 18:44
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Thanks so much for the advices cmdct. Though most probably there's still a long way for me to beat EoD.
It's also interesting to collect different rare items for me.
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post Apr 5 2011, 19:18
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QUOTE(Conquest101 @ Apr 5 2011, 10:00) *

I value it because I use it to butt-rape 500+ Legendaries in 2 hours. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Though apparently I'm in the minority as far as using Holy for the Legendary arenas over Soul.

I would try it if I ever got any heimdall phase, but I haven't. Worthless fenrir? Sure. Probably a dozen pieces already. Useful things? Nope. I tried it with a very good heaven-sent set before and it was pathetically weak, so I gave up.

Now that I think about it, I had some so-so shoes, but I sold them.

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post Apr 5 2011, 19:28
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With all the Fenrir Phase I find all the time I'm tempted to try using Dark Spells in EoT (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Apr 6 2011, 02:12
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Apr 5 2011, 10:18) *

I would try it if I ever got any heimdall phase, but I haven't. Worthless fenrir? Sure. Probably a dozen pieces already. Useful things? Nope. I tried it with a very good heaven-sent set before and it was pathetically weak, so I gave up.

Now that I think about it, I had some so-so shoes, but I sold them.


You can't really compare it to Soul straight up. It'll never catch up damage wise or on a per turn basis in a single round. But looking at the big picture (less need to replenish mana, spammable, no spell juggling) it's more efficient. At least for me it is.
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post Apr 6 2011, 03:57
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6 million credits to go. x.x
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post Apr 6 2011, 04:12
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Nobody here is familiar with light armor?
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post Apr 6 2011, 04:24
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QUOTE(Conquest101 @ Apr 5 2011, 20:57) *

6 million credits to go. x.x

Eh, there's no reason to rush. I don't think I've gotten a single notable drop yet since I finished. Just more BS.
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post Apr 6 2011, 04:39
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QUOTE(Marvin666 @ Apr 6 2011, 09:12) *

Nobody here is familiar with light armor?


Me? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Apr 6 2011, 04:48
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209 18 You gain 1032 Credits!
209 17 You gain 76809.8 EXP!
209 16 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
209 15 Arena Token Bonus! [Token of Blood]
209 14 Arena Clear Bonus! [Average Mace of Slaughter]
209 13 Flying Spaghetti Monster dropped [Noodly Appendage]
209 12 You are Victorious!
209 11 The effect Breached Defense on Flying Spaghetti Monster has expired.
209 10 The effect Slowed on Flying Spaghetti Monster has expired.
209 9 The effect Weakened on Flying Spaghetti Monster has expired.
209 8 The effect Blinded on Flying Spaghetti Monster has expired.
209 7 The effect Nerfed on Flying Spaghetti Monster has expired.
209 6 Flying Spaghetti Monster has been defeated.
209 5 Spreading Poison hits Flying Spaghetti Monster for 3707 damage.
209 4 Flying Spaghetti Monster misses the attack against you.
209 3 Flying Spaghetti Monster uses Sudden Outbreak of Common Sense
209 2 You are healed for 0 Health Points.
209 1 You cast Cure.

WOW! Curse-weaver + Gum + Vase + Poison certainly makes FSM kills a shitload faster. I'll have to wait until tomorrow to see if just CW + Poison is faster than Heaven-sent + Holy spam. Considering that the two sets are nearly identical in terms of bonus proficiency, it should be a pretty even comparison.

Noodle Reward: Superior Silk Robe of the Fleet. It seems like I'm having pretty solid luck with Noodles.
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post Apr 6 2011, 04:51
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QUOTE(Marvin666 @ Apr 4 2011, 23:09) *

How do these gauntlets rank? I've had them for quite some time now, and I remember paying out the ass for them. It turns out when I was selecting peices, my mouse slipped, these should have been equiped.

I asked this last page.
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post Apr 6 2011, 05:19
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QUOTE(coredumperror @ Apr 6 2011, 09:48) *

Noodle Reward: Superior Silk Robe of the Fleet. It seems like I'm having pretty solid luck with Noodles.


Time has changed. Phase is the norm now, and Silks is the new Cotton... People throw this thing away now. In fact, I've seen so much of what would be a "good" silks back a few patch ago being dumped into the bazaar, so much to the point that I just don't care for it anymore. Yesterday alone I found 3 robes with base 6+ evade.. I didn't buy a single one. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

@ Marvin

It's not too bad, but not worth using IMO. Though you might want keep it to use when fight against MBP in RoB at LV50.
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