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post Jul 14 2016, 19:02
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Jul 14 2016, 16:40) *

Boobs are always welcome (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

another one then. this time Kokoro from DOAX3. as always, add ":orig" tag at the end for better results
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post Jul 14 2016, 19:13
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another one then. this time Kokoro from DOAX3. as always, add ":orig" tag at the end for better results

Damn, why I had no games like this on my old playstation? =)
What are size of her breasts, by the way?
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post Jul 14 2016, 19:52
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Jul 14 2016, 19:13) *

Damn, why I had no games like this on my old playstation? =)

it's only for PS4 and Vita. just saying.

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What are size of her breasts, by the way?

official datas say 90-55-87, but they don't give a cup size. quite nice body for a geisha, i'd say
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post Jul 14 2016, 20:28
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it's only for PS4 and Vita. just saying.

I know-know, but if my PlayStation One was able to utilize graphics like this (and show girls like this) I would have way better childhood =)
Don't get me wrong - I played a lot awesome games on this console: Alundra, Armored Core, Klonoa, MGS, Tekken, MoH, SotN, Fighting Force 2*, Final Fantasies, LoG, and many-many more.

* - seriously, why so many people hate this game? It is very good betemup >_>

But when I am looking to nowadays graphics I fell jealous to modern kid who can play them almost 24/7/365 xD
And speaking of boobs. For me, Sniper Wolf's breast was the most realistic precious, I ever seen on PlayStation One. The whole Metal Gear Solid is very cinematographic in terms how realistically presentation is, and her outlook is no exception. And now, I am looking on your pics above and thinking about how far we get with nowadays graphics =)
1999, original Metal Gear Solid
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2015, Metal Gear Solid V
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official datas say 90-55-87, but they don't give a cup size. quite nice body for a geisha, i'd say

Nice. Thanks =)

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post Jul 14 2016, 22:17
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Update description to whole ability tree in wiki.

Can someone recheck and report about mistakes?

Before - https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Abilities
After - https://ehwiki.org/wiki/User:F4tal#The_Ability_Tree

Also, how much ability reset costs? For me price is always 1 soul, no matter ho much AP I am resetting. Is it increases some way?
Nevermind. Figured out, how resetting works. Looks like I should click ~50 times on Reset button before 1 soul will change to 2 souls. Kinda weird...
Resetting five units costs 1 soul (no matter how much actual AP were distribute), but after I clicked ~50 times on reset button, price of resetting 4 units became 1 soul, but next one (fifth unit) costs 2 souls already. I think there is some kind of progressive system and if I keep resetting, I will trigger a case, where resetting first three units will costs 1 soul and next two, up to 2 souls.
Need to read more in HV 0.84 discussion thread... =)

Okay, I have read the whole HV 0.84 discussion thread, and there are were nothing about resetting. I suppose this is not type of question, everybody are looking answer for. Waste a time. >_>

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post Jul 15 2016, 15:39
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Curiosity one can find this interesting images on Hentaiverse cluster:
(IMG:http://hentaiverse.org/y/ab/10pu.png)
(IMG:http://hentaiverse.org/y/ab/10pf.png)
As you can see, this is small bar(unit) for pink abilities (Ether Theft and Spirit Theft). But, as you all knows, there are only huge bar(unit) for that abilities on screen:
(IMG:http://hentaiverse.org/y/ab/1pu.png)
(IMG:http://hentaiverse.org/y/ab/1pf.png)
So, I am wondering is this some kind of left-over from previous version of the game or just placeholders/reserve for future updates or usage? Veterans? Anyone? =)

Bytheway, it is not hot news, but why drops are so bad in the game? Didn't see any good drop since savage + slaughter armor month ago =(
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post Jul 15 2016, 16:40
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Bytheway, it is not hot news, but why drops are so bad in the game? Didn't see any good drop since savage + slaughter armor month ago =(


Drops aren't the problem. People being shit at reasoning about drops is the problem. In every game with randomly generated equips that's ever existed.

Succinctly: whether something is "bad" or not depends solely on how easy it is to acquire compared to how easy it is to get something better. As such, making (currently) good drops more common will only extend the range of what is considered a bad drop.
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post Jul 15 2016, 16:51
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Indeed.

Apart of legendaries rate, I noted a slight improvement of REs' equipment drops since last week.

That's the meaning, all random, also because values change continuously (for example during events with artifact, those drops are more likely to happen compared to normal days, and ED rates from artifacts are higher too...coincidence? I don't think so (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) )
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post Jul 15 2016, 17:20
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Drops aren't the problem. People being shit at reasoning about drops is the problem. In every game with randomly generated equips that's ever existed.

Ahah, no problem xD
Cursing about how bad drops are is hot trend now, so I am just on a wave...
...but honestly, where are my legendary drops? Never seen one for 10(?) days =_=

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Succinctly: whether something is "bad" or not depends solely on how easy it is to acquire compared to how easy it is to get something better. As such, making (currently) good drops more common will only extend the range of what is considered a bad drop.

I know and, of course, you are right. This is extremely grinding game, so no wonder good stuff are very rare. But I would like to see them a little more often %)

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Apart of legendaries rate, I noted a slight improvement of REs' equipment drops since last week.

I think, I totally missed it ^^"

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post Jul 15 2016, 17:31
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jul 15 2016, 16:40) *

Drops aren't the problem. People being shit at reasoning about drops is the problem. In every game with randomly generated equips that's ever existed.

Succinctly: whether something is "bad" or not depends solely on how easy it is to acquire compared to how easy it is to get something better. As such, making (currently) good drops more common will only extend the range of what is considered a bad drop.

yep. it's all relative. personally i can do pretty much everything with a Mag set, and i don't plan to change almost anything for the next levels - it works, so it'll be a waste of credits if you consider how much time i play nowadays - but hardcore players are amazed even by .0001%-like improvement. well, nothing really new, right?

if you allow me a word, your decision of making Magnificents have 3 or 4 PABs at random and the fact that with the current meta every little bit not only helps - in fact, it's more correct to say that every little bit is needed, even the bonus given by one missing PAB - made people become even more finicky than before. once people have the perception that Legendaries are the bare minimum, the only thing left is to whine about actually *how* legendary a legendary is. am i wrong here? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Jul 15 2016, 17:46
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if you allow me a word, your decision of making Magnificents have 3 or 4 PABs at random and the fact that with the current meta every little bit not only helps - in fact, it's more correct to say that every little bit is needed, even the bonus given by one missing PAB - made people become even more finicky than before. once people have the perception that Legendaries are the bare minimum, the only thing left is to whine about actually *how* legendary a legendary is. am i wrong here? unsure.gif


Sorry, missed your idea...
You stated that magnificent gears are underestimated in current patch? And we should do something to make more people use them? If so, I am totally agree with you. =)
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post Jul 15 2016, 17:58
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Jul 15 2016, 17:46) *

Sorry, missed your idea...
You stated that magnificent gears are underestimated in current patch? And we should do something to make more people use them? If so, I am totally agree with you. =)

basically yes. before nobody says it, i'll say myself that back then a Mag was comparable to today's Peerless. even prior, even an Exq could make you rich.
apart this, i'm sure that Mags are quite usable even nowadays with small differences on the overall build - yet they aren't even considered, being it for the chance of not having a prefix, of missing a PAB, whatever. on the other hand, newbies may actually take a big advantage of Avg/Sup/Exq with one more PAB, so why not shifting those thresholds?

but as i said before, people nowadays are quite finicky even about the slightest - weapon of certain kinds don't stand a chance to be used, and even less to be sold. some of those can still fetch decent prices, but only because of their pre-existing fame. Rapiers can be sold only if they have a certain ADB - even though the difference with a top-notch may be worth less than 100 ADB at our levels, which are almost nothing if you consider that the average damage is 7~8k, IW10 and its potencies, double strike, infusions, forge, randomness of the average mob pool, even more randomness of the landed hits... whatever. too many parameters to think that such a measly increase can be actually a gamechanger.
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post Jul 15 2016, 18:10
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If its not Legendary Savage/Mithril or Peerless my eyes are closed (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

ofc u can play with good MAG things or bad Legendaries.. or even with much worse things, but why would you pull your winning time further away like that ;o
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post Jul 15 2016, 18:18
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Agreed with you.
I used magnificent up to level 320, I guess, until moved to full legendary set. And back then I don't think mags are bad or whatever.
It looks like people use kind of this pattern:
1) Crude and fair - avoid
2) Average - to start with
3) Superior - avoid
4) Exquisite - long run
5) Magnificent - avoid
6) Legendary - very long run
7) Peerless - does not exist.
From what I see magnificent and superior are most unpopular things around and everybody trying to skip them =/

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even though the difference with a top-notch may be worth less than 100 ADB at our levels, which are almost nothing if you consider that the average damage is 7~8k,

Nice! This is bother me too! Seriously I don't see any reason and real need to forcefully change your L-2,03 rapier to L-1,43 - is this difference really matter? How much time you will save? Two minutes? And what differences between ADB? 8034 versus 8153 - is this groundbreaking change? >_>
Everyone so hyped about how awesome gears are and do some weird math and formulating to calculate best damage output possibly, but for what reason? To kill monster faster, to get more money to spent on even better gears? Naaah... I started to play this game because I was bored, not because get credits to download galleries or hath perks (I don't even visit gallery often >_>) .

Sorry if my suggestions are wrong, but I don't see reason to get "best possibly gear" and spent millions on that (150 million on rapier! 170 millions on Heimdall!?). Don't forget this is a game, operated by solely admin, he can nerfed all our gears in a second and create AWESOME-quality class, which will be 2xPeerless. And we all will do? Will grind for them? This is kinda illogic...

Okay, I like when suddenly I get good legendary drop and even more I like when they are perfectly suited for my build, but I have no interest to buy some great gears from auctions for incredibly amount of money (even I have 3millions right now and according to rapiers prices on previous action, I have a chance). If I drop good gears - okay, I will get them. If no - well, I will whining about it a little and move forward. After all, I got two savage + slaughter from loot, so my luck is not worst ever. =)
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post Jul 15 2016, 18:32
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Jul 15 2016, 18:18) *

Don't forget this is a game

exactly.

QUOTE(f4tal @ Jul 15 2016, 18:18) *

operated by solely admin, he can nerfed all our gears in a second and create AWESOME-quality class, which will be 2xPeerless. And we all will do? Will grind for them? This is kinda illogic...

mind you, i don't really think he will do out of boredom only. or just to laugh about us. i didn't speak directly with him so much, but it seems to me he has at least a vague clue on what he's doing. most likely, when such buffs/nerfs happen it's also because he hears about users' whinings/suggestions.

QUOTE(f4tal @ Jul 15 2016, 18:18) *

After all, I got two savage + slaughter from loot, so my luck is not worst ever. =)

way better than mine, in fact. if i were you, i would've seriously thought about selling one of those and purchasing a star (or cutting the road to a star) with the earnings. but this is only a personal opinion
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post Jul 15 2016, 18:41
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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Jul 15 2016, 18:10) *

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If its not Legendary Savage/Mithril or Peerless my eyes are closed (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

ofc u can play with good MAG things or bad Legendaries.. or even with much worse things, but why would you pull your winning time further away like that ;o

Quite my thought.
Okay, you should save the money and take it easy but, why should you get stuff like magnificents (aka bad legendaries at most) or bad legendaries, when a legendary set with good rolls is definitely not that expensive?

Maybe this reasoning can be made for radiant and slaughter stuff...but the rest is less than 1m for a full set with close to lmax rolls (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jul 15 2016, 18:44
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I still waiting for my first legendary radiant phase and power slaughter drop (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)


it seem my luck is gone after that duck retired (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

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post Jul 15 2016, 18:51
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ Jul 15 2016, 18:41) *

QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Jul 15 2016, 18:10) *

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If its not Legendary Savage/Mithril or Peerless my eyes are closed (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

ofc u can play with good MAG things or bad Legendaries.. or even with much worse things, but why would you pull your winning time further away like that ;o

Quite my thought.
Okay, you should save the money and take it easy but, why should you get stuff like magnificents (aka bad legendaries at most) or bad legendaries, when a legendary set with good rolls is definitely not that expensive?

Maybe this reasoning can be made for radiant and slaughter stuff...but the rest is less than 1m for a full set with close to lmax rolls (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

it's not a matter of saving credits. it's your wallet, do whatever you want with it. empty it, stare at it, close it and stick into every nook and cranny - whatever.

the real matter is that - this is a damn game. play it one hour when you feel like it, a day when you feel like it, but if you play it for 8 hours/day, 7 days/week, do sophisticated math simulations just to estabilish how many hundredth of seconds you can spare by switching from a Mmax to a Lmin - hell, that's a work, not a game!

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post Jul 15 2016, 18:52
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This doesn't change the fact that having a full set of a L-(<1) legendaries is still affordable for every over 300's wallet (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jul 15 2016, 18:56
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ Jul 15 2016, 18:52) *

This doesn't change the fact that having a full set of a L-(<1) legendaries is still affordable for every over 300's wallet (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

if it's only that, it doesn't even change the fact that the sky is blue and boobs are nice to be stared at. but depending on what you call "affordable" it may be true, yep.

still, it's not what i, f4tal and (i guess) even the admin are trying to say here.

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