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post Jul 10 2016, 00:25
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ Jul 9 2016, 21:17) *

Well, 3 girls out of 4 in their twenties don't even know that they have 3 holes down there (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

chances are that 3 girls out of 4 girls in their twenties already saw more dicks than you, considering that being a male you see one at least 3 or 4 times per day.

QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jul 9 2016, 22:09) *

Im not girl, tho i know a bit about breast sizes.
Depends on us/uk sizes. In us its 1 liter volume each cup and in uk almost 1,6. 36D is only 0,7. So its not equal. But also as you already said same volume looks completely different depending on chest (first number) size.

28J means extremely thin chest (60cm). For example, many ppl have around 20cm in wrist, so its only 3 of that and you can easy enfold whole with 2 hands. At the same time its 85-90 cm in breast and you can imagine how big difference.
36D means 80cm chest and around 90 cm in breast, so its completely different. Even same cup volume which is 36F in us means only 95 cm.

so basically you're confirming. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

QUOTE(ppp82p @ Jul 9 2016, 22:14) *

The only thing I now is that here in italy most girls mix up the cup size with the bra size.
High bra size doesn't mean big boobs, but only big body and shoulders, but a lot of times it's wrongly used as a benchmark.
Even I can wear a bra with 4th/5th measure, but as a guy I wouldn't even fill an a cup.
A busty little girl probably could wear the 1st, but probably needs a c,d or even bigger cup (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

1st/2nd etc is another matter again. they are a mix of various sizes/cups but all with the same B value: this leads to various sister sizings (for example, a cup volume #4 may refer to either a 28G or a 34D size), but results are obviously quite different between themselves. while being quite handy as a rough estimation - well, saying 4th already speaks by itself, isn't it? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) - it doesn't actually say so much.
check here:
(IMG:[3.bp.blogspot.com] http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-xpam3WFyIW0/T6HtvM28v8I/AAAAAAAAAiw/Rv7ox-vrAcE/s1600/Cup%20Table.jpg)

[1.bp.blogspot.com] example of sisters

i guess i don't really need to tell you in what all these #7s differ (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jul 11 2016, 13:55
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 10 2016, 00:25) *

chances are that 3 girls out of 4 girls in their twenties already saw more dicks than you, considering that being a male you see one at least 3 or 4 times per day.
so basically you're confirming. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
1st/2nd etc is another matter again. they are a mix of various sizes/cups but all with the same B value: this leads to various sister sizings (for example, a cup volume #4 may refer to either a 28G or a 34D size), but results are obviously quite different between themselves. while being quite handy as a rough estimation - well, saying 4th already speaks by itself, isn't it? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) - it doesn't actually say so much.
check here:
(IMG:[3.bp.blogspot.com] http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-xpam3WFyIW0/T6HtvM28v8I/AAAAAAAAAiw/Rv7ox-vrAcE/s1600/Cup%20Table.jpg)

[1.bp.blogspot.com] example of sisters

i guess i don't really need to tell you in what all these #7s differ (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


This is BS data, Scremaz. We need to see real things instead of that stupid chart. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Jul 11 2016, 16:13
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You can look at something like brabandproject.com
Tho some looks a bit innacurate.
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post Jul 11 2016, 16:40
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Jul 11 2016, 18:55) *

This is BS data, Scremaz. We need to see real things instead of that stupid chart. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

+1 for this (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Jul 11 2016, 23:25
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Jul 11 2016, 13:55) *

This is BS data, Scremaz. We need to see real things instead of that stupid chart. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

i agree. but if you already looked the other image i cannot help you more than this. except for going out to ask to every girl i find her size and to let me take a picture (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jul 12 2016, 16:22
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I went from this:

Exquisite Ethereal Rapier of Balance

to this:

Legendary Shocking Rapier of Slaughter

The upgrade was much smaller than I had anticipated. Pretty disappointed.
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post Jul 12 2016, 17:15
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QUOTE(blueeyedcolossus @ Jul 12 2016, 16:22) *

I went from this:

Exquisite Ethereal Rapier of Balance

to this:

Legendary Shocking Rapier of Slaughter

The upgrade was much smaller than I had anticipated. Pretty disappointed.

In my experience, this game at your/our level is about a lot of small improvements. Your anticipated big improvement doesn't happen in one go. Then after a while, all improvements and leveling and prof build up to a big difference.
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post Jul 12 2016, 17:27
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It still seems quite strange.
Just that swap should have meant, at least, a 5-6% improvement in speed, which is quite noticeable.
Not sure how big was the expected improvement.
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post Jul 12 2016, 18:24
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Hello, everyone, I am currently working on upgrading acronym page, since it is very outdated and hasn't got modern and popular acronyms/slang.

So, there are some question, I would like to ask:

1) Obsolete stuff. There are some very odd acronyms, I believe, stayed from previous version of the game, or do they?
  • SF - Soul Fire. Do I understand right, that few patches ago there are was some special spell with soul damage (as well monsters had "soul resistance" as well specific crystals type?). For now on, we haven't got this spell and we can get rid of this acronym? I see that holy mage have got some special ability, named this way, but this is just a coincidence, I think - I never seen anyone use SF on forum, actually.
  • OB - Overcharge Boost. Same question as above one, this time OB means some obsolete ability, isn't?
  • TBP - The Big Picture. I believe this perk named "Source nexus" nowadays
2) What this stuff means? There are few acronyms, I don't really understand what they mean, need a friendly hand here to help
  • WD - [[Weapon]] Damage. I guess this means "Attack Damage Bonus" of weapons, isn't it? Do we need this acronym then? Everybody are talking about ADB, never about WD.
  • ED - Effective Damage. This means "[Attack] minus [mitigation]"?
  • EHP - [[Character_Stats#Points|Effective Health Point(s). This means "Base HP"?
3) Do we really need this? I see some acronyms noone use or overly useless (imho). Maybe some patches ago we used them, but for now they are obsolete, I guess. Correct me, before I started doing stupid things:
  • BC - Battlecaster, EW - Earth-Walker, SD - Shadowdancer, Ele - Elemental. Seriously? I see nothing special about that suffixes/prefixes at all, maybe few patches ago, they were kinda awesome or uber-unbalanced, but for today they are just a mediocre/good suffix and prefixes.
  • Eth - Ethereal. No doubt, Ethereal is great prefix, but do we really use this acronyms? =)
  • FB - Frenzied Blows, GC - Great Cleave, CS - Concussive Strike, IS - Iris Strike, SS - Shatter Strike. I don't mind skills overall, but do we really need acronyming them? I don't remember I personally talked about skills in past two month. And after 300 level I stop using them at all (apart from that awesome skill, that afford me to kill FSM when he have 25%)
  • MBP - Manbearpig. Come on, this guy? Why not other bosses then?
  • ISB - Item Shop Bot. Same as everything above.
  • EQ - Equipment. I don't know, from what I see, everybody are just using "equipment", "equips", and "gears", never seen EQ. To be honest, when I see EQ, I am thinking about Exquisite-quality gears.
  • EoD - End of Days or Eve of Death. Are we using them really? From all arenas, everyone are talking about DwD only
4) Appropriate links. I see some mislinking, I will fix in a update.
  • ED. Now: Items#Items.23Other_Restoratives | Should be: Items#Other_Restoratives
  • DwD. Now: Bestiary#A_Dance_With_Dragons | Should be: Arena#Arena_Challenges
  • Eth. Now: Ethereal#Ethereal | Should be: Equipment_Prefixes#Ethereal
  • MPB. Now: Proficiency | Should be: Proficiency#Magic_Proficiencies
  • SD. Now: Equipment_Suffixes | Should be: Equipment_Suffixes#Light_Armor
  • WTB. Now: NOLINK | Should be: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showforum=77
  • WTS. Now: NOLINK | Should be: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showforum=78
5) Duplicate. We have some duplicate acronyms
  • G - Gallery Point(s) and GP - Gallery Point(s)
  • EXP - Experience Point(s) and XP - Experience Point(s)
  • RoE - Rules of Engagement (broken link, bytheway) and ToS - Terms od Service
6) What acronyms we should add into this pages?
For example, I don't see acronyms for:
  • CR - Crystallized Phazon
  • SF - Shade Fragment
  • RA - Repurposed Actuator
  • DMM - Defense Matrix Modulator
  • BoS - Binding of Slaughter
  • BoD - Binding of Destruction
  • BoP - Binding of Protection
  • Fat - Fatality Potency
  • But - Butcher Potency
  • ROI - Return on investment
  • HGC - High-Grade Cotton
  • HGW - High-Grade Wood
  • HGM - High-Grade Metal
  • HGL - High-Grade Leather
  • T/S and TpS - Turn per Second
  • LE - Last Elixir
What else?

Thanks!

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post Jul 12 2016, 18:51
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Jul 12 2016, 18:24) *

1) Obsolete stuff. There are some very odd acronyms, I believe, stayed from previous version of the game, or do they?[list]
[*] SF - Soul Fire. Do I understand right, that few patches ago there are was some special spell with soul damage (as well monsters had "soul resistance" as well specific crystals type?). For now on, we haven't got this spell and we can get rid of this acronym? I see that holy mage have got some special ability, named this way, but this is just a coincidence, I think - I never seen anyone use SF on forum, actually.

yes, there were. Astral weapons for Soul damage (now re-rolled on either Holy or Dark), Shielding Aura suffix for mitigation and Crystals of Quintessence for monster mitigation. all of them were retired.

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[*] OB - Overcharge Boost. Same question as above one, this time OB means some obsolete ability, isn't?

yep. iirc there was an item which allowed to go past 250% OC. not sure which was though.

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[*] TBP - The Big Picture. I believe this perk named "Source nexus" nowadays

it was a thumbnail-related perk.

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2) What this stuff means? There are few acronyms, I don't really understand what they mean, need a friendly hand here to help
[*]WD - [[Weapon]] Damage. I guess this means "Attack Damage Bonus" of weapons, isn't it? Do we need this acronym then? Everybody are talking about ADB, never about WD.

*maybe* we're speaking about the differences between a single weapon's damage and player's damage from stats page

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[*]ED - Effective Damage. This means "[Attack] minus [mitigation]"?

it does make sense

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[*]EHP - [[Character_Stats#Points|Effective Health Point(s). This means "Base HP"?

imo it should be total HP tank

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3) Do we really need this? I see some acronyms noone used or useless ones. Maybe some patches ago we used them, but for now they are obsolete, I think:[list]
[*] BC - Battlecaster, EW - Earth-Walker, SD - Shadowdancer, Ele - Elemental. Seriously? I see nothing special about that suffixes/prefixes at all, maybe few patches ago, they were kinda awesome or uber-unbalanced, but for today they are just a mediocre/good suffix and prefixes.

they don't hurt so much. either way, SD and BC are still used nowadays.

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[*] Eth - Ethereal. No doubt, Ethereal is great prefix, but do we really use this acronyms? =)
[*] FB - Frenzied Blows, GC - Great Cleave, CS - Concussive Strike, IS - Iris Strike, SS - Shatter Strike. I don't mind skills overall, but do we really need acronyming them? I don't remember I personally talked about skills at all in past two month. And after 300 level I stop using them at all (apart from that awesome skill, that afford to kill FSM when he have 25%)

hey, hey, you want to remove SD/BC yet keep GC? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) among them i guess the only two barely used may be FB and Eth

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[*] MBP - Manbearpig. Come on, this guy? Why not other bosses then?
[*] EQ - Equipment. I don't know, for me everybody just using "equipment", "equips", and "gears", never seen EQ. To be honest, when I see EQ, I am thinking about Exquisite-quality gears.

they could go, i guess

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[*] ISB - Item Shop Bot. Same as everything above.
[*] EoD - End of Days or Eve of Death. Do we really using this acronyms? From all arenas, everybody are talking about DwD only

they are used every now and then
too lazy to check 4 and 5

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6) What acronyms we should add into this pages?
For example, I don't see there acronyms for:
[*] CR - Crystallized Phazon
[*] SF - Shade Fragment
[*] RA - Repurposed Actuator
[*] DMM - Defense Matrix Modulator
[*] BoS - Binding of Slaughter
[*] BoD - Binding of Destruction
[*] BoP - Binding of Protection
[*] Fat - Fatality Potency
[*] But - Butcher Potency

seems legit. plus Arch for Archmage, Eco for Economizer, Pen for Penetrator, Jug for Juggernaut, Cap for Capacitor, blah blah

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[*] ROI - Return on investment

speaking of which, this comes from real economy. you may add a link to wiki. and also PB for Payback, which is (when appliable, like for Archeologist training and stars)
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post Jul 12 2016, 19:03
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Thanks, Scremaz (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Just a resume, to make everything clear to me and to prevent misunderstanding...
So, you think, I can delete this acronyms without any harm:
SF - Soul Fire (obsolete)
OB - Overcharge Boost (obsolete)
TBP - The Big Picture (obsolete)
GC - Great Cleave (rare use)
CS - Concussive Strike (rare use)
IS - Iris Strike (rare use)
SS - Shatter Strike (rare use)
MBP - Manbearpig (rare use)
EQ - Equipment (rare use)

But, should save this ones:
BC - Battlecaster (don't hurt much)
EW - Earth-Walker (don't hurt much)
SD - Shadowdancer (don't hurt much)
Ele - Elemental (don't hurt much)
Eth - Ethereal (barely use)
FB - Frenzied Blows (barely use)
ISB - Item Shop Bot (still popular)
EoD - End of Days or Eve of Death (still popular)
WD - [[Weapon]] Damage (makes sense)
ED - Effective Damage (makes sense)
EHP - Effective Health Point(s) (makes sense)

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plus Arch for Archmage, Eco for Economizer, Pen for Penetrator, Jug for Juggernaut, Cap for Capacitor,

Got it, thanks! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

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speaking of which, this comes from real economy. you may add a link to wiki. and also PB for Payback, which is (when appliable, like for Archeologist training and stars)

Good idea, RNG acronym and AoE refereed to wikipedia, so no problems with one more =)

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post Jul 12 2016, 19:31
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SS ~ Spirit Stance is more popular (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Jul 12 2016, 19:34
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jul 12 2016, 16:27) *

It still seems quite strange.
Just that swap should have meant, at least, a 5-6% improvement in speed, which is quite noticeable.
Not sure how big was the expected improvement.

Oh yeah, it was at least that if not a bit more. The thing is that the weapon itself almost doubled in strength though.
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post Jul 12 2016, 19:37
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SS ~ Spirit Stance is more popular heh.gif

In case of 1H - "unlimited overcharge, thanks to counterattacks" is more popular xD


By the way, I forgot to ask about this one:
LQB - Loot Quality Bonus. Is this obsolete and been replaced by LotD?

and about this one:
ADM - Attack Damage Multiplier. Multiplier? What it is?

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post Jul 12 2016, 20:56
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Isn't this [alt.hentaiverse.org] Legendary Ruby Shade Leggings of the Fleet pretty good?

What's it doing in the bazaar?
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post Jul 12 2016, 21:12
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Isn't this [alt.hentaiverse.org] Legendary Ruby Shade Leggings of the Fleet pretty good?

What's it doing in the bazaar?

i guess it's due to the elemental prefix
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post Jul 12 2016, 21:12
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Jul 12 2016, 19:37) *

ADM - Attack Damage Multiplier. Multiplier? What it is?

Probably the ones that add ADB for every melee style based on proficiency
2h and niten have 3 (3 adb for each proficiency point)
1h has 4
dw has 5

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For those, who are inteerested in acronyms page.
This is my current draft.
Feel free to tell me something about or point on mistakes.

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Probably the ones that add ADB for every melee style based on proficiency
2h and niten have 3 (3 adb for each proficiency point)
1h has 4
dw has 5

You mean this thingy (check where TYPE is).
That's odd o_o Why do we need to refer on this modificator in formula? %)

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post Jul 12 2016, 21:31
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QUOTE(needaname @ Jul 12 2016, 18:56) *
Isn't this [alt.hentaiverse.org] Legendary Ruby Shade Leggings of the Fleet pretty good?

What's it doing in the bazaar?
Not really, if it was level ~400+. Not terrible, but probably not worth the hassle of trying to find a buyer for a (likely) low price of 50k or less (probably less).
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i agree. but if you already looked the other image i cannot help you more than this. except for going out to ask to every girl i find her size and to let me take a picture (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


i've seen plenty of japanese porno's with this exact plot! it always ends well! go forth, Scremaz (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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