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post Jul 8 2016, 10:15
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QUOTE(blueeyedcolossus @ Jul 8 2016, 10:12) *

By the way: in Ring of Blood should I be trying to do FSM or Triple Trio? I can easily clear both on PFUDOR but I need to make a choice in terms of Tokens of Blood.

FSM.
And do get Jug on the armor, you're at a level where more hp is still pretty useful.
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post Jul 8 2016, 14:05
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since we're speaking about tokens, does anyone know the chance to earn token clear bonus from IPU?


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And do get Jug on the armor, you're at a level where more hp is still pretty useful.

true, but i'm quite positive that with the worth of amnesias needed to get Jug on 2 or 3 armors he may easily afford VV perk - keeping its benefits for every build and regardless of the items he will change. at that point, every Jug level would be an appreciated bonus.
if he really needs more HP now i guess VV perk is pretty solid (and cheaper!) investment
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post Jul 8 2016, 16:26
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Anyway, redo that IW, it's horrifying laugh.gif

Redone. ^_~ Not it has Fat4 and But5.
It was pretty painless, I should say, something like this:
0) Dark descent fully reforge service
1) O - reforge
2) O - reforge
3) FS - reforge
4) S - reforge
5) FFBBBBBFF - awesome. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

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post Jul 8 2016, 16:43
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Jul 8 2016, 16:26) *

Redone. ^_~ Not it has Fat4 and But5.
It was pretty painless, I should say, something like this:
0) Dark descent fully reforge service
1) O - reforge
2) O - reforge
3) FS - reforge
4) S - reforge
5) FFBBBBBFF - awesome. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

are you really saying that IW took you only ten shards? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Jul 8 2016, 16:48
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 8 2016, 14:05) *

true, but i'm quite positive that with the worth of amnesias needed to get Jug on 2 or 3 armors he may easily afford VV perk - keeping its benefits for every build and regardless of the items he will change. at that point, every Jug level would be an appreciated bonus.
if he really needs more HP now i guess VV perk is pretty solid (and cheaper!) investment

I'm not saying he should get jug5 on everything, just getting some jug is enough.
Reforge until first potency is jug and then IW till the end.
~40 amnesia shards or less (element prefix should make getting jug1 easier) should be enough, and they cost half of VV.
Sure, the bonus does not carry over to other armors, but it's also ~30% or something like that.
If it's going to keep the armor for some time it'a good investment of time and money (I would get VV before that, but that's another issue).
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post Jul 8 2016, 16:53
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are you really saying that IW took you only ten shards? huh.gif

Yes, it is. As I said "painless".
I thought it will get ~30 amnesia to properly IW this rapier, but looks like RNG is merciful to me today =)

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post Jul 8 2016, 16:56
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Yes, it is. As I said "painless". I thought it will get ~30 to properly IW, but RNG is merciful for me today =)

Define properly.
5/4 with fat/but is probably more like 100+ shards on average.
You were really lucky (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Jul 8 2016, 17:04
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Define properly.
5/4 with fat/but is probably more like 100+ shards on average.
You were really lucky heh.gif

Yeap. And to make this situation even more confused and unreal - this was FIRST TIME EVER* when I used amnesia =)
My first reforge experience and this was very lucky one (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

btw, 100 shards!? Come on, so much? O_o Did you have such experience?

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No! I have remembered how two month ago used two amnesia to get jug on my gauntlets in tier 1, so, technically, this is second time I used amnesia, but really first one, where I would like to get perfect IW and did full reforge. =)

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post Jul 8 2016, 17:08
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jul 8 2016, 16:48) *

I'm not saying he should get jug5 on everything, just getting some jug is enough.
Reforge until first potency is jug and then IW till the end.
~40 amnesia shards or less (element prefix should make getting jug1 easier) should be enough, and they cost half of VV.

you're basically implying that 8 amnesias on average are enough to earn Jug. isn't it a bit too low of an esteem? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

also, sure, elemental prefix makes a bit easier but not so much: you're moving from 1/8 = 12.5% chance to 1/7 ~14.3% chance
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post Jul 8 2016, 17:11
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jul 8 2016, 15:48) *

I'm not saying he should get jug5 on everything, just getting some jug is enough.
Reforge until first potency is jug and then IW till the end.
~40 amnesia shards or less (element prefix should make getting jug1 easier) should be enough, and they cost half of VV.
Sure, the bonus does not carry over to other armors, but it's also ~30% or something like that.
If it's going to keep the armor for some time it'a good investment of time and money (I would get VV before that, but that's another issue).

Other than my future rapier I have nothing on me that is near the price of 40 amnesia shards. And all this for what? A tiny boost in HP? Not to mention IWing itself takes a shitton of effort.

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post Jul 8 2016, 17:19
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Not to mention IWing itself takes a shitton of effort.

Just a few cents - that's why you can hire someone to IW your gear. Just send amnesia to him (or money) and paid for his/her* work. Yes, this may costs much, but you will save a lot time. Superlatanium, Holy Demon and ariosty have such service. Maybe someone else, but I didn't check WTS/WTB so often. =)

* - I still believe there are few femme here
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post Jul 8 2016, 17:20
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if you use 1H , jug potency is not that important ~ mage is different story (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Jul 8 2016, 17:24
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QUOTE(blueeyedcolossus @ Jul 8 2016, 17:11) *

Other than my future rapier I have nothing on me that is near the price of 40 amnesia shards. And all this for what? A tiny boost in HP? Not to mention IWing itself takes a shitton of effort.

Mind you, not 40 for a single one, but for all combined.
And anyway, when you start spending 1m or more for an equip, a decent IW is the best use of time and money.
With the soulfuse bonus it's also pretty easy to reach IW10 in a couple of days max, even for not-so-high-level players.

QUOTE(f4tal @ Jul 8 2016, 17:19) *

Just a few cents - that's why you can hire someone to IW your gear. Just send amnesia to him (or money) and paid for his/her* work. Yes, this may costs much, but you will save a lot time. Superlatanium, Holy Demon and ariosty have such service. Maybe someone else, but I didn't check WTS/WTB so often. =)

If you're lvl <300 and want to get the weapon to 10 sure.
If you're rich enough to ask them to reforge until the correct potencies show up sure.
If you can manage your own IW it's best to keep the credits and start learning how to IW efficiently.
It's better to spend the credits on something else (forge, perks, new equips).

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post Jul 8 2016, 17:28
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Jul 8 2016, 17:19) *

* - I still believe there are few femme here

judging by their self-outings, at least 4 or 5 in this HV section. i'm quite positive there's no reason to troll here.

i'm also quite positive the amount of self-claimed ladies on redlight corner would be dramatically higher.
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post Jul 8 2016, 17:48
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If you're lvl <300 and want to get the weapon to 10 sure.
If you're rich enough to ask them to reforge until the correct potencies show up sure.
If you can manage your own IW it's best to keep the credits and start learning how to IW efficiently.
It's better to spend the credits on something else (forge, perks, new equips).

Agree.
I talked mostly about "perfect forge" scenario. For example I would like to get jug5 and cap5 on all my equipment. Just imagine how much time it will consume - better to pay for someone's work than doing it yourself (of course some people think opposite, and would like to do everything personally - that's right too). =)

Bytheway, masters of calculations, can someone tell me exact possibility to get cap5 and jug5 for single item? For example - 5%, 4,5%, 0,2%? I am not math genius at all ^^"

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judging by their self-outings, at least 4 or 5 in this HV section. i'm quite positive there's no reason to troll here.
i'm also quite positive the amount of self-claimed ladies on redlight corner would be dramatically higher.

We need kind of "cumming out" procedure here to determinate female from male =)
But, I wonder, will relationship and communication with them become different after they point on their true sex?
For example, I know one girl (she supposed to be my wife >_>), who likes to play online shooters (Left 4 Dead 1/2 and Quake III mostly) and everytime, when she turns mic on and other players around find out that she is female, they start to make fun of her, trolling and do other stupid things like telling: "yo, femme, you place on a kitchen, go away from shotgun".
So, maybe, this is a good thing that females here are hiding their sex identify to stop provokes and trolling. Don't forget this is porn site, oriented mostly on a male auditory, so female should be especially "not welcome" here =/

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post Jul 8 2016, 18:01
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Jul 8 2016, 17:48) *

We need kind of "cumming out" procedure here to determinate female from male =)

step 1. hack their webcams
step 2. look their identities
step 3. enjoy

QUOTE(f4tal @ Jul 8 2016, 17:48) *

Don't forget this is porn site, oriented mostly on a male auditory, so female should be especially "not welcome" here =/

on the contrary. they would be quite welcomed. but keep in mind there are true perverts here (not simple-minded like me or you who enjoy to look at a cleavage or an ass from time to time). no wonder they prefer to be in the shadows (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jul 8 2016, 18:19
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step 1. hack their webcams
step 2. look their identities
step 3. enjoy

You forgot "???? PROFIT!!!!" part xD
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but keep in mind there are true perverts here

*suspicious mode activated*
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post Jul 8 2016, 22:30
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 8 2016, 15:28) *
judging by their self-outings, at least 4 or 5 in this HV section. i'm quite positive there's no reason to troll here.
What, don't you imagine some might say something untrue on the internet just because they can? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Still, gender distribution does indeed imply there are at least some.
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Bytheway, masters of calculations, can someone tell me exact possibility to get cap5 and jug5 for single item? For example - 5%, 4,5%, 0,2%? I am not math genius at all ^^"
Not exactly the answer you were looking for, but using the best possible IW strategy that I've found, it takes 37.12 +- 0.5 shards to get Jug 5 on an elemental-prefixed armor, assuming no use of Dark Decent.

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post Jul 8 2016, 22:35
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Jul 8 2016, 16:26) *

Redone. ^_~ Not it has Fat4 and But5.
It was pretty painless, I should say, something like this:
0) Dark descent fully reforge service
1) O - reforge
2) O - reforge
3) FS - reforge
4) S - reforge
5) FFBBBBBFF - awesome. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Dark magic.
Not Really.
(FFBFFFBBB - Holy Strike)

QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jul 8 2016, 22:30) *

What, don't you imagine some might say something untrue on the internet just because they can? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I've seen the opposite actually.
A lady I know irl on some forums decided to pretend to be a male because the previous times she got annoying pressures by the other users (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Jul 8 2016, 23:06
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What, don't you imagine some might say something untrue on the internet just because they can? tongue.gif

Is this how Internet work? Damn, I was fooled for all this time xD
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Not exactly the answer you were looking for, but using the best possible IW strategy that I've found, it takes 37.12 +- 0.5 shards to get Jug 5 on an elemental-prefixed armor, assuming no use of Dark Decent.

37 amnesia on Jug5? whoa, I don't think so much! So, does it mean, that we need ~80 to get both cap5 and jug5? Or even more? o_o
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(FFBFFFBBB - Holy Strike)

Hey, good rapier ^_~
Damn, so bad it hasn't got Dark Strike, it was perfect then =)
How many amnesia you have spent?
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A lady I know irl on some forums decided to pretend to be a male because the previous times she got annoying pressures by the other users laugh.gif

Male are pervs and assholes, no exception.
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Except me, of course %)


ANYWAY

Can anyone tell me why prices in trophies have changed? Don't get me wrong, I prefer selling them on higher price and would like even higher prices, but what the reason behind? ^_~
I fell myself stupid, when I sent my trophies to Kei and then decided to sell all my scrolls, went into his WTB to be sure is he still buying them, and have found higher prices on trophies... Damn! Forced to call mails back and change prices according to current situation. =)

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