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post Jul 7 2016, 17:59
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Yesterday, I purchased rapier from bazaar and forge it up to level 5. It is very shitty, I will be honest, but even with this bad stats it still provide some nice time boost:

150 rounds Grindfest
I. My Fiery Slaughter sword:
  • Run #1: 5,482 turns | 30 min 29 s
  • Run #2: 5,289 turns | 28 min 38 s
  • Run #3: 5,391 turns | 29 min 50 s
II. My Electric Slaughter rapier:
  • Run #1: 5,046 turns | 26 min 40 s
  • Run #2: 5,181 turns | 27 min 03 s
  • Run #3: 5,099 turns | 26 min 37 s
Well, I am not very good in theory, but the case is clear for me - even bad rapiers are awesome =)

Anyway, should I change my Spike Shield to debuff from Electric strike? I am using Fire one right now..

Bytheway:
Shrined 13x Precursor Artifact
  • 1000x Crystal of Swiftness
  • 2 Hath
  • Energy Drink
  • 2 Hath
  • 1000x Crystal of Vigor
  • Last Elixir
  • 1000x Crystal of Corruption
  • Last Elixir
  • Energy Drink
  • Energy Drink
  • 2 Hath
  • 1000x Crystal of Vigor
  • Energy Drink
Very good (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

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post Jul 7 2016, 18:47
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Matching Spike Shield obviously, you have 1h, you shouldn't have issues bearing big loads of monsters (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Anyway, redo that IW, it's horrifying (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Strange that the clearspeed it's so similar, ok that the rapier was WD 45 and has bad IW, but if I try to do the first arena with my shortsword I need almost double the turns to clear compared to my rapier (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jul 7 2016, 19:26
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Anyway, redo that IW, it's horrifying laugh.gif

Yeap, I will do in a future.
I just afraid to spend a lot amnesia on new weapon in order to get fat5 and but4 and, after that, find out that difference between rapier and current sword is miserably =(
I decided just to test this rapier today, not upgrade properly (that's why I don't use any bindings yet). My goal was to test how good this rapier compare to shortsword and should I pump it up?
It will be very funny is I spend ~30 amnesias in a sake of good IW and find out that this rapier give me only 20 sec of speedboost xD
Now I see this rapier is good to me and can boost my cleartime very much, so I can work with this in an advance =)

Bytheway, best IW for rapier is 5fat and 4but, isn't it? ^^"

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Strange that the clearspeed it's so similar, ok that the rapier was WD 45 and has bad IW, but if I try to do the first arena with my shortsword I need almost double the turns to clear compared to my rapier laugh.gif

I don't know. Maybe it is all because of my current sword has good ADB (L-0.08) and this rapier has extreme bad one (L-5.yada-yada-yada)? =(

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Matching Spike Shield obviously, you have 1h, you shouldn't have issues bearing big loads of monsters biggrin.gif

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post Jul 7 2016, 19:32
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Jul 7 2016, 19:26) *

Bytheway, best IW for rapier is 5fat and 4but, isn't it? ^^"


Yes, but if you don't want to spend too many amnesia shards, then just avoid SwiftStrike. Overpower isn't really needed for 1H players, but it's not like you have 100% Overwhelming Strike uptime, so it still offers some benefit.
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post Jul 7 2016, 19:49
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Jul 7 2016, 19:26) *

Yeap, I will do in a future.
I just afraid to spend a lot amnesia on new weapon in order to get fat5 and but4 and, after that, find out that difference between rapier and current sword is miserably =(
I decided just to test this rapier today, not upgrade properly (that's why I don't use any bindings yet). My goal was to test how good this rapier compare to shortsword and should I pump it up?
It will be very funny is I spend ~30 amnesias in a sake of good IW and find out that this rapier give me only 20 sec of speedboost xD
Now I see this rapier is good to me and can boost my cleartime very much, so I can work with this in an advance =)

Bytheway, best IW for rapier is 5fat and 4but, isn't it? ^^"
I don't know. Maybe it is all because of my current sword has good ADB (L-0.08) and this rapier has extreme bad one (L-5.yada-yada-yada)? =(
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Yep it's true, but you haven't to search perfect IW, as long as Butcher+Fatality = at least 7, it's still ok.
Butcher 4/5 Fatality 4/5 is for the perfect rapiers for end game (Demonic/Hallowed/Ethereal with Dark/Holy Strike Peerless or 51+ WD Leg with good rolls overall)
If I were you, I would've waited before forging it to lv 5.
Salvaging and buying back is a good way to save up on searching for amnesias each time (for example my rapier has 3,3k sell cost -> 82,5k to rebuy -> roughly 4-5 amnesia shards)

And, even if shortsword rolls are good, it's still a bad suffixed one, so I'm really curious of how it's possible (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Tried again, 59.74 WD Shortsword vs 49.21 WD Rapier, similar IW and forge.
With the sword some monsters go down in 3-4 hits like with the rapier, some monsters instead take an entire eternity to die, while with rapier they take few hits more than the weak ones but still die fast.
I'm confused (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Jul 7 2016, 20:03
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Salvaging and buying back is a good way to save up on searching for amnesias each time (for example my rapier has 3,3k sell cost -> 82,5k to rebuy -> roughly 4-5 amnesia shards)

o_o
I didn't know about this trick.
Damn, there are so many things I don't know about this game %)
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And, even if shortsword rolls are good, it's still a bad suffixed one, so I'm really curious of how it's possible laugh.gif

It was fire + slaughter. I guess you thought about my previously sword - ethereal + banshee?
So bad, I salvaged it already, and can't give a link =(

It was very good and solid sword, actually, with ADB forged to 15 and STR/DEX to 18 and 19. =)
This rapier has only 5 forge and not spectacular stats, but I am still happy (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

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Yes, but if you don't want to spend too many amnesia shards, then just avoid SwiftStrike. Overpower isn't really needed for 1H players, but it's not like you have 100% Overwhelming Strike uptime, so it still offers some benefit.

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Yep it's true, but you haven't to search perfect IW, as long as Butcher+Fatality = at least 7, it's still ok.

Thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
I have 36 amnesias, so I believe, I can try to get fat5 + but4 ^^"

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post Jul 7 2016, 20:11
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Jul 7 2016, 20:03) *


It was fire + slaughter. I guess you thought about my previously sword - ethereal + banshee?
So bad, I salvaged it already, and can't give a link =(

I have the link somewhere in my browsing history (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Anyway, I didn't know about the new fiery shortsword, nice, does it have a good IW? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

And you should finish the IW on the savage power armor of slaughter too, it's sitting at iw2 since weeks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (yes, I am stalkering you xD)

Edit: not really (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Stalking level over 9000 xD

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post Jul 7 2016, 20:15
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my rapier just have but5 + 2fat , that enough (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Jul 7 2016, 20:16
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jul 7 2016, 20:15) *

my rapier just have but5 + 2fat , that enough (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Wasn't it 5 3? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Anyway, 4 4 here (trolled badly by rng too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) ), enough as well xD
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post Jul 7 2016, 20:20
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Anyway, I didn't know about the new fiery shortsword, nice, does it have a good IW? laugh.gif

I perfectly remember it has but5, something about fat and some stupid shmuck, which happens on IW8 xD
I guess it was but5, fat3, over1 or but5, fat2, over2 - you got the drill =)

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And you should finish the IW on the savage power armor of slaughter too, it's sitting at iw2 since weeks biggrin.gif

Yeah. I am little lazy on this xD

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(yes, I am stalkering you xD)

I should be scared, I guess? =P

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Edit: not really laugh.gif
Stalking level over 9000 xD

Yeap, this is my "medium" sword I used for probably 10 days only (got it month ago?) - I left this one for future IW (I can't boost my rapier with bare hand xD)
Bytheway, I had one more slaughter + fiery sword, when I was ~150 level. It was magnificent, if I remember correctly. Then I get legendary ethereal banshee - I was so hyped about my first legendary drop ever and get rid of my magnificent sword without and bad feelkings (bad decision, now I know it).
So, I have something about fiery + slaughter swords xD


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post Jul 7 2016, 20:26
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ Jul 8 2016, 01:16) *

Wasn't it 5 3? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Anyway, 4 4 here (trolled badly by rng too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) ), enough as well xD

I don't use any amnesia for that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

that enough for me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jul 7 2016, 20:27
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Jul 7 2016, 20:20) *

Bytheway, I had one more slaughter + fiery sword, when I was ~150 level. It was magnificent, if I remember correctly. Then I get legendary ethereal banshee - I was so hyped about my first legendary drop ever and get rid of my magnificent sword without and bad feelkings (bad decision, now I know it).
So, I have something about fiery + slaughter swords xD


edit: how many shortsword do you have then? The butcher 5 magnificent, the butcher 2 legendary and...finished here, right? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE(f4tal @ Jul 7 2016, 20:20) *

I should be scared, I guess? =P

You can start to be scared now.
*insert here a (peerless) demonic laugh (of slaughter)*

QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jul 7 2016, 20:26) *

I don't use any amnesia for that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

that enough for me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Ah oh, no amnesia too here, and I got trolled, rng fooled me about getting 5/4 potencies by giving me 4/4 at IW8 and then...Nope! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

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post Jul 7 2016, 20:47
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So do you have 2 fiery shortswords? tongue.gif

Yeap, check above. Already ninjaed xD

It was like that:
1) Got magnificent fiery sword of slaughter
2) Got legendary ethereal sword of banshee (used #1 to IW it)
3) Got legendary fiery sword of slaughter (used #2 to IW it)
4) While IW #3 (tier 9, I guess?)* I got ANOTHER legendary fiery sword of slaughter (used #3 to IW it)
5) Bought legendary shocking rapier of slaughter (used #4 to IW it). Have found that this rapier is good thing and salvage #4 to get my bindings back for future forge, left #3 since it has not slaughter bindings and to use it to properly IW this rapier)
xDD
This is very confused story about item management, thats why I don't tried to explained, but since you stalking on me... xD
I guess everyone here has this kind of weirdness =)

Bytheway, I hate restriction about "you can't IW gear you currently wear on" - this force you to have some extras in a case if you would like to reforge them in a future...
For example I have this thing:
Legendary Savage Power Leggings of Warding
I would like to get Jug5 and few Cap in a future, that's why I should have also this piece of gear:
Legendary Amber Power Leggings of Protection
And, as you know, I have this armor still not maxed out:
Legendary Savage Power Armor of Slaughter
So I have this armor in backpack
Legendary Amber Power Armor of Protection
And I have this superb weapon for IW my weapon, if anything goes wrong: xD
Click to see
Nahh, just joking - this is just a gift from one user =P

* - bytheway, it happened to me one more time. I had a gauntlets, which I decided to IW. Near tier 3 or 4 I got another gauntlets: Legendary Savage Power Gauntlets of Slaughter
So, I guess, I should play more IW and less arenas xD


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post Jul 7 2016, 22:21
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Jul 7 2016, 20:47) *

Bytheway, I hate restriction about "you can't IW gear you currently wear on" - this force you to have some extras in a case if you would like to reforge them in a future...

this is one of the reasons because everyone should have a proper - or at least, decent - second set.
just FYI, at least at the start almost all mages IWed their things with a melee set. after a certain while such mage sets became strong enough to substain on their own, but they had to start from somewhere.
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post Jul 7 2016, 22:29
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just FYI, at least at the start almost all mages IWed their things with a melee set. after a certain while such mage sets became strong enough to substain on their own, but they had to start from somewhere.

Thanks. I didn't know that. I know little to nothing about mages =)
I was a little harsh about "hating" this thing... I would like to rephrase myself - I know why Tenboro did this and for what reason and I kinda agreed with him, but I personally dislike this ^^"
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post Jul 7 2016, 22:55
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 7 2016, 21:21) *

this is one of the reasons because everyone should have a proper - or at least, decent - second set.
just FYI, at least at the start almost all mages IWed their things with a melee set. after a certain while such mage sets became strong enough to substain on their own, but they had to start from somewhere.

Oh my, I just realized I haven't IWed a single piece of my armor set.
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QUOTE(blueeyedcolossus @ Jul 7 2016, 22:55) *

Oh my, I just realized I haven't IWed a single piece of my armor set.

if you're going 1H, then IW on armors isn't actually a priority. slightly more useful for DW, but still...
though almost mandatory for mages, at least afaik


btw, you have quite some taste. looking at sena's bosoms is never a bad thing
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 7 2016, 23:02) *

btw, you have quite some taste. looking at sena's bosoms is never a bad thing

Even though the character itself isn't like her figure (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jul 8 2016, 10:12
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 7 2016, 22:02) *

if you're going 1H, then IW on armors isn't actually a priority. slightly more useful for DW, but still...
though almost mandatory for mages, at least afaik
btw, you have quite some taste. looking at sena's bosoms is never a bad thing

Thank you.

By the way: in Ring of Blood should I be trying to do FSM or Triple Trio? I can easily clear both on PFUDOR but I need to make a choice in terms of Tokens of Blood.
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post Jul 8 2016, 10:15
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QUOTE(blueeyedcolossus @ Jul 8 2016, 08:12) *
Thank you.

By the way: in Ring of Blood should I be trying to do FSM or Triple Trio? I can easily clear both on PFUDOR but I need to make a choice in terms of Tokens of Blood.
FSM trophy is worth more than the others you get on TT&T combined, and the clear bonus is probably the same. So best to do FSM only.
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