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Jul 3 2016, 15:57
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Overt Ninja @ Jul 3 2016, 13:10)  One of what? He already owns one of the rapiers.
hey, i'm not him. it's pretty obvious another reason may be the one explained by lol, but i won't say anymore without knowing if it's at least the usual name (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) QUOTE(Mantra64 @ Jul 3 2016, 13:14)  This one did cost me a lot back then. Legendary Fiery Rapier of Slaughterduh. too bad it's untradeable (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) QUOTE(kyouri @ Jul 3 2016, 13:17)  If it doesn't contribute to a discussion ala brag post then its pretty pointless, speaking of which we have plenty of pointless threads, pointless rants of being poor and pointless rants about the lack of rng/drops.
alright, now we're speaking the same language (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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Jul 3 2016, 18:09
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Juggernaut Santa
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QUOTE(kyouri @ Jul 3 2016, 13:17)  speaking of which we have plenty of pointless threads, pointless rants of being poor and pointless rants about the lack of rng/drops.
Pls.
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Jul 3 2016, 18:42
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jacquelope
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QUOTE(Logii @ Jul 2 2016, 11:38)  I think you are giving too much value to Ethereal prefix. Like I said before, the Burden is not that important to 1H players, as long as the overall burden is <70. I would have really hard time picking if I could take either Ethereal one or Demonic one with the same stats. IW is painful enough even without the elemental strike gamble for Ethereal ones. For DW Ethereal Rapier is probably better.
Well currently my burden is 66.9, which means that any of the non-ethereal rapiers in Superlatanium's last auction would have taken me past 70, so what do I do then? This post has been edited by jacquelope: Jul 3 2016, 18:42
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Jul 3 2016, 18:51
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Overt Ninja
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Jul 3 2016, 16:42)  Well currently my burden is 66.9, which means that any of the non-ethereal rapiers in Superlatanium's last auction would have taken me past 70, so what do I do then?
I'm on 69.9 with mag tier rapier and boots. Pretty sure If I upgraded both of them to legendary tier I'd be below 70 even without an ethereal rapier
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Jul 3 2016, 18:57
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Juggernaut Santa
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Jul 3 2016, 18:42)  Well currently my burden is 66.9, which means that any of the non-ethereal rapiers in Superlatanium's last auction would have taken me past 70, so what do I do then?
Wow...so much magnificent stuff then. My burden is 64.1, and I have an elemental rapier...without it I'd have 57 (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Jul 3 2016, 19:04
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Logii
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Jul 3 2016, 19:42)  Well currently my burden is 66.9, which means that any of the non-ethereal rapiers in Superlatanium's last auction would have taken me past 70, so what do I do then?
In that case your crit chance might take a hit. Usually Legendary grade Power armors have low enough Burden that elemental prefixed Rapier is not a problem (my Burden is 67.3 with elemental Rapier and no Mithril armors). If your overall Burden is going to go over 70, Ethereal Rapier can be uselful. However, you can also buy armor with lower burden or Mithril prefixed armor or use Featherweight Shards (long duration, low cost). I think that Ethereal Rapiers as a Burden reduction are mostly useful for DW users and perhaps for players that use Plate armor (for example Shielding Plate for Grindfest). Even then you can use Featherweight Shards when you need lower Burden. Of course if you can get a dream-like IW like Madprank got, Ethereal is definitely the one I would go for, but the chance of getting Dark Strike after otherwise perfect IW is really small, so small that you will probably pay millions to get there. With elemental prefix you always know what you will be getting.
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Jul 3 2016, 20:01
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jacquelope
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QUOTE(Logii @ Jul 3 2016, 10:04)  In that case your crit chance might take a hit. Usually Legendary grade Power armors have low enough Burden that elemental prefixed Rapier is not a problem (my Burden is 67.3 with elemental Rapier and no Mithril armors). If your overall Burden is going to go over 70, Ethereal Rapier can be uselful. However, you can also buy armor with lower burden or Mithril prefixed armor or use Featherweight Shards (long duration, low cost).
Bah, this right here is why I have declined to part with my ethereal rapier, it came to me with Holy strike as the 10th pot. All I need is infusions of darkness and I now have >6000 of those.
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Jul 3 2016, 20:40
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jacquelope
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Huh, those ponies are starting to like me. Who wants another Sweetie Belle Figurine for 20k?
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Jul 3 2016, 20:50
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Jul 3 2016, 20:40)  Huh, those ponies are starting to like me. Who wants another Sweetie Belle Figurine for 20k?
cod please
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Jul 3 2016, 21:44
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jacquelope
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 3 2016, 11:50)  cod please
On its way!
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Jul 3 2016, 22:20
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Epion
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Jul 3 2016, 18:40)  Huh, those ponies are starting to like me.
jacquelope The chosen one... of the ponyville!!!
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Jul 4 2016, 02:27
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Overt Ninja
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*Looks at Super's upcoming auction list*
Lawd have mercy, I'm in trouble.
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Jul 4 2016, 02:40
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pervdiz
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It's been a week now... Shrined the 26th artifact of that accursed row, and still no ED. Oh Snowflake, have thou forsaken me ? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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Jul 4 2016, 04:10
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Madprank
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Well, the trick to getting a decent IW at the lowest cost is to select the lowest difficulty which will give your piece of equipment 1 level of potency. If that level does not correspond to what you are looking for then reset the item. Then, if you finally get that first level right, you want to get the second level to be the same one again. Rinse and repeat until you have 2/10 of your desired potency. After that you have a very good chance that over the next 7-8 level ups you will max out at least that one particular potency. I think I saw somewhere that the system gives preference to the existing potency instead of making new ones, which explains why I can usually nail my desired combo with 10-30 shards.
This post has been edited by Madprank: Jul 4 2016, 04:13
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Jul 4 2016, 04:44
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mozilla browser
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I think the "godly IW" comes about from getting not just the Butcher 5 Fatality 4 combination (which is already plenty tricky and costs millions from an IW service), but also to get Dark Strike on top of that. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I mean, it could just as well have been Fiery Strike, and most people would just live with it instead of attempting to get Butcher 5 Fatality 4 again. In fact, some people stay at potency level 9, and use infusions to get Dark Strike, rather than run the risk of getting Fiery Strike.
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Jul 4 2016, 04:48
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Madprank
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I admit I was tempted to leave it at 9/10 but then I though that I never got holy/dark strike out of about 10weapons that I leveled up before so I decided to risk it. Thankfully I was lucky this time (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Jul 4 2016, 05:10
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jul 4 2016, 10:44)  I think the "godly IW" comes about from getting not just the Butcher 5 Fatality 4 combination (which is already plenty tricky and costs millions from an IW service), but also to get Dark Strike on top of that. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I mean, it could just as well have been Fiery Strike, and most people would just live with it instead of attempting to get Butcher 5 Fatality 4 again. In fact, some people stay at potency level 9, and use infusions to get Dark Strike, rather than run the risk of getting Fiery Strike. amiya peerless eth rapier is great example for this , aria said that he burn alot of shards to get that perfect IW (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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Jul 7 2016, 17:59
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f4tal
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Yesterday, I purchased rapier from bazaar and forge it up to level 5. It is very shitty, I will be honest, but even with this bad stats it still provide some nice time boost: 150 rounds Grindfest I. My Fiery Slaughter sword: - Run #1: 5,482 turns | 30 min 29 s
- Run #2: 5,289 turns | 28 min 38 s
- Run #3: 5,391 turns | 29 min 50 s
II. My Electric Slaughter rapier: - Run #1: 5,046 turns | 26 min 40 s
- Run #2: 5,181 turns | 27 min 03 s
- Run #3: 5,099 turns | 26 min 37 s
Well, I am not very good in theory, but the case is clear for me - even bad rapiers are awesome =) Anyway, should I change my Spike Shield to debuff from Electric strike? I am using Fire one right now.. Bytheway: Shrined 13x Precursor Artifact - 1000x Crystal of Swiftness
- 2 Hath
- Energy Drink
- 2 Hath
- 1000x Crystal of Vigor
- Last Elixir
- 1000x Crystal of Corruption
- Last Elixir
- Energy Drink
- Energy Drink
- 2 Hath
- 1000x Crystal of Vigor
- Energy Drink
Very good (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) This post has been edited by f4tal: Jul 7 2016, 18:02
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Jul 7 2016, 18:47
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Juggernaut Santa
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Matching Spike Shield obviously, you have 1h, you shouldn't have issues bearing big loads of monsters (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Anyway, redo that IW, it's horrifying (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Strange that the clearspeed it's so similar, ok that the rapier was WD 45 and has bad IW, but if I try to do the first arena with my shortsword I need almost double the turns to clear compared to my rapier (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Jul 7 2016, 19:26
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f4tal
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QUOTE Anyway, redo that IW, it's horrifying laugh.gif Yeap, I will do in a future. I just afraid to spend a lot amnesia on new weapon in order to get fat5 and but4 and, after that, find out that difference between rapier and current sword is miserably =( I decided just to test this rapier today, not upgrade properly (that's why I don't use any bindings yet). My goal was to test how good this rapier compare to shortsword and should I pump it up? It will be very funny is I spend ~30 amnesias in a sake of good IW and find out that this rapier give me only 20 sec of speedboost xD Now I see this rapier is good to me and can boost my cleartime very much, so I can work with this in an advance =) Bytheway, best IW for rapier is 5fat and 4but, isn't it? ^^" QUOTE Strange that the clearspeed it's so similar, ok that the rapier was WD 45 and has bad IW, but if I try to do the first arena with my shortsword I need almost double the turns to clear compared to my rapier laugh.gif I don't know. Maybe it is all because of my current sword has good ADB (L-0.08) and this rapier has extreme bad one (L-5.yada-yada-yada)? =( QUOTE Matching Spike Shield obviously, you have 1h, you shouldn't have issues bearing big loads of monsters biggrin.gif Thanks (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) This post has been edited by f4tal: Jul 7 2016, 19:29
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