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Jun 30 2016, 17:55
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Juggernaut Santa
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 30 2016, 17:43)  i noted that too. but the interesting thing would be to know which of those will be hosted on permanent basis
I'm interested in that too (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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Jun 30 2016, 17:59
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Usagi =
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QUOTE(Epion @ Jun 30 2016, 23:31)  Is it just me or did the number of auctions increase a lot latelly? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Meh most of them are just 1 shot clearance auction. The only frequent ones are: super's, lian's, scremaz's and maybe Q's. Also, more auctions is good for us buyers. Overlapping lots means less competition for any single item. Say, who were among the first weekly auctioneers anyway?
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Jun 30 2016, 18:09
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Jun 30 2016, 17:59)  Overlapping lots means less competition for any single item.
yep. as if it wasn't already hard enough to find decent obsoletes... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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Jun 30 2016, 18:44
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Jun 30 2016, 22:59) 
Say, who were among the first weekly auctioneers anyway?
hito (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Jun 30 2016, 18:44
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Jul 1 2016, 06:50
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Usagi =
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jul 1 2016, 00:44)  Ah....hito the aeroplane guy (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) Haven't seen him in a long time.
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Jul 2 2016, 07:48
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jacquelope
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What is the highest ABD that anyone has seen for a power armor user?
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Jul 2 2016, 11:49
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Jul 2 2016, 07:48)  What is the highest ABD that anyone has seen for a power armor user?
this is the kind of questions that nobody would be happy to answer, so just wait for him (i feel a bit a bit like Polifemo right now (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) ) however i guess around 13k
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Jul 2 2016, 12:10
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Usagi =
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 2 2016, 18:00)  oh, random ass: [ i40.tinypic.com] http://i40.tinypic.com/1ova6q.jpgWhen I see the word 'ass', I immediately though of donkeys, not that I was disappointed mind you.
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Jul 2 2016, 12:42
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Jul 2 2016, 12:10)  When I see the word 'ass', I immediately though of donkeys, not that I was disappointed mind you.
i read 'donughts' and i was going to say 'i can understand your wicked association', then i re-read and found that you actually wrote 'donkey' (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Jul 2 2016, 12:55
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 2 2016, 16:49)  this is the kind of questions that nobody would be happy to answer, so just wait for him (i feel a bit a bit like Polifemo right now (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) ) however i guess around 13k 1H is around 13k+ at lvl500 ~ ask amiya or void for this (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Jul 2 2016, 15:16
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Overt Ninja
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QUOTE(Rhydin @ Jul 2 2016, 13:07)  Both of these have >50 base damage, so they're bound to attract quite a bit of attention. If you don't want to spend too much you should probably aim for lower base damage, maybe ~47 or so.
I've seen similar quality rapiers go for less http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=0f78b19bef went for only 550k despite not being too far off in stats Even at 2m I still couldn't get it. Hopefully I'll have better luck next time. This post has been edited by Overt Ninja: Jul 2 2016, 15:36
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Jul 2 2016, 15:54
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Logii
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QUOTE(Overt Ninja @ Jul 2 2016, 15:59)  Is there a shortage going around for legendary element rapiers or something? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Legendary Tempestuous Rapier of Slaughter is going for 4.4m Legendary Tempestuous Rapier of Slaughter is going for more than 1.6m SmartSearch led me to believe that at most they would cost 1.5m-2m for something like the first one. Guess I'm stuck with my mag tier rapier for a little longer (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) They both have base damage over 50, which is relatively high. As you can see from the Peerless one in Super's auction, the Peerless ADB is 51.33. For Legendary Slaughter Rapiers the price depends a lot on the ADB value. For 1H the Burden of elemental prefixed Rapiers doesn't matter that much either. QUOTE(Overt Ninja @ Jul 2 2016, 16:16)  I've seen similar quality rapiers go for less http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=0f78b19bef went for only 550k despite not being too far off in stats Even at 2m I still couldn't get it. Hopefully I'll have better luck next time. That one has a base damage of 49.05 according to my Equipment Comparison script. Not a low value, but not a high one either. I think that many 1H players looking for a Rapier upgrade are looking for 50+ ADB ones, so there might be price difference even between 49.9 and 50.0 ADB. Also you need to remember how the stats scale in HV, even a seemingly little base stat difference can make a noticeable difference in the forged and level scaled value. Just keep an eye on the auctions, I'm sure you can find a Legendary Slaughter Rapier for under 500k, maybe even with decent ADB if you are lucky. I got my Rapier for 300k even though the ADB is over 50, probably because no one wants Fiery prefixed equipment.
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Jul 2 2016, 16:50
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Overt Ninja
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QUOTE(Logii @ Jul 2 2016, 13:54)  They both have base damage over 50, which is relatively high. As you can see from the Peerless one in Super's auction, the Peerless ADB is 51.33. For Legendary Slaughter Rapiers the price depends a lot on the ADB value. For 1H the Burden of elemental prefixed Rapiers doesn't matter that much either. That one has a base damage of 49.05 according to my Equipment Comparison script. Not a low value, but not a high one either. I think that many 1H players looking for a Rapier upgrade are looking for 50+ ADB ones, so there might be price difference even between 49.9 and 50.0 ADB. Also you need to remember how the stats scale in HV, even a seemingly little base stat difference can make a noticeable difference in the forged and level scaled value. Just keep an eye on the auctions, I'm sure you can find a Legendary Slaughter Rapier for under 500k, maybe even with decent ADB if you are lucky. I got my Rapier for 300k even though the ADB is over 50, probably because no one wants Fiery prefixed equipment. Yeah, I forgot how much people would be willing to pay for that 1 point difference. Reminds me of another game I used to play, people would pay north of 20m just to get something like +3 to their strength which would boost their max hit from about 50 to 51. I really doubt that fiery equipment is THAT bad, but for some reason people shun them like the plague. I remember seeing a post where a guy compiled the average damage of the different strike effects and indeed fire was the worst, but only by a few small points.
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Jul 2 2016, 18:29
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jacquelope
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jul 2 2016, 03:55)  1H is around 13k+ at lvl500 ~ ask amiya or void for this (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Phewwwwww, that doesn't look like a lot.
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Jul 2 2016, 18:45
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jacquelope
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QUOTE(Overt Ninja @ Jul 2 2016, 07:50)  Yeah, I forgot how much people would be willing to pay for that 1 point difference. Reminds me of another game I used to play, people would pay north of 20m just to get something like +3 to their strength which would boost their max hit from about 50 to 51.
I really doubt that fiery equipment is THAT bad, but for some reason people shun them like the plague. I remember seeing a post where a guy compiled the average damage of the different strike effects and indeed fire was the worst, but only by a few small points.
IMHO they all suck except ethereal slaughter. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) In all seriousness, I don't get the point of spending that much for a 1 point difference. Hopefully if I ever land a Peerless ethereal rapier of slaughter people don't suddenly realize their +1 ADB has so little intrinsic worth. To me, intrinsic worth is found in upgrades that cut down on clear times, and to do that you need a few thousand additional effective ADB per strike - IOW why not just hang back and wait for a lower ADB ethereal rapier of slaughter, save 21m (judging by Superlatanium's latest auction where a tempestuous rapier of slaughter got 21M vs a mag ethereal rapier of slaughter got ~1m), then spend that savings on a bunch of bindings of slaughter or maybe stock up on infusions of darkness and divinity? My meta-math and my recent experience with very expensive upgrades says making up for the difference with upgrades seems more worth it, and the biggest ADB improvement has been gained by the use of infusions of darkness (my rapier already has holy strike). How many fewer turns will it take to kill a LVL 404 monster with a 48.19 ADB rapier vs a 51.33 ADB rapier? This post has been edited by jacquelope: Jul 2 2016, 18:48
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