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May 18 2016, 10:59
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f4tal
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QUOTE Or I should retire? How dare you? =) Game is waiting for you (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Speaking of a game - got my 27 monster, Have anyone any idea for funny or cool name and attack? =)
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May 18 2016, 11:07
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Usagi =
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QUOTE(f4tal @ May 18 2016, 16:59)  Speaking of a game - got my 27 monster, Have anyone any idea for funny or cool name and attack? =)
Say, do you have trouble keeping the morale of all your monsters high without using happy pills or buying crystals?
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May 18 2016, 11:26
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f4tal
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QUOTE Say, do you have trouble keeping the morale of all your monsters high without using happy pills or buying crystals? Without happy pills? Ermm... I am using happy pills every time I see their morale is a low (yellow). If I will run out of pill (I have 245 right now) - I will buy few in WTB-place. I believe that monsters are self-profitable. For example today I got 2 binding of destruction, this is ~140,000 - for this money I can make them happy for half year and more. ^_~ And i don't buying crystals at all - army of low-levers with 60 PL is my credo =)
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May 18 2016, 11:36
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yukikiss
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seems the weekly auction is coming soon? i am waiting this moment for exactly one week now cant find suitable gear to spend money (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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May 18 2016, 11:52
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ May 18 2016, 11:07)  Say, do you have trouble keeping the morale of all your monsters high without using happy pills or buying crystals?
happy pills are the best (and cheapest) way to do so. don't even think about starting a monster lab if you're not willing to dump a few credits in pills every now and then. btw, the most optimal strategy is to wait until bar becomes yellow and then feed them with a pill. you're safe for a few days and there's a certain chance they will bring you a gift in the meanwhile QUOTE(yukikiss @ May 18 2016, 11:36)  seems the weekly auction is coming soon? i am waiting this moment for exactly one week now cant find suitable gear to spend money (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) i can suggest you plenty of ways. for example, a Willow Staff of the Owl. or a Redwood of the Fox. or a 1st gen Gossamer set. they are also tremenduously cheap, since they can't sell so much. a real deal (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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May 18 2016, 12:31
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yukikiss
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 18 2016, 17:52)  i can suggest you plenty of ways. for example, a Willow Staff of the Owl. or a Redwood of the Fox. or a 1st gen Gossamer set. they are also tremenduously cheap, since they can't sell so much. a real deal (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) meh.. i personally prefer a titanium dagger.
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May 18 2016, 13:18
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(yukikiss @ May 18 2016, 12:31)  meh.. i personally prefer a titanium dagger.
good to know. a 5-digits one should appear sooner or later.
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May 18 2016, 13:24
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f4tal
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QUOTE Some people really should make a full set of obsolete shield armor and forge it, just to see what % of total block they would reach rolleyes.gif Can someone give me a link to one of this? Would like to see (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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May 18 2016, 13:33
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ May 18 2016, 13:19)  Some people really should make a full set of obsolete shield armor and forge it, just to see what % of total block they would reach (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) problem is, high-quality Shields are quite rare and ranges were fucked pretty much everywhere - as all gears prior to 0.82. results may not be so accurate. QUOTE(f4tal @ May 18 2016, 13:24)  Can someone give me a link to one of this? Would like to see (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Fine Shield Cuirass of the Fire-eater1st gen Shield, with Resist too. it wasn't easy to close a set of those [edit]: ninja'ed (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) This post has been edited by Scremaz: May 18 2016, 13:34
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May 18 2016, 13:36
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f4tal
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O_O I would like to wear this stuff. Are they heavy-armor type? Are they summing up in additive or in multiplicative way? And here I am guessed that 55% block is a much xD ... Now I would like to forge them too (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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May 18 2016, 13:37
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ May 18 2016, 13:29)  If these are average and superior stuff, if someone owns a Magnificent or Legendary of these...how much block should those have? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) better question is: how much would they cost? you know, Exq of Barrier are already hard to find, letting apart Mags... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) QUOTE(ppp82p @ May 18 2016, 13:29)  Anyway, speaking of obsoletes, I've seen that Scythes have quite good ADB...didn't they got nerfed? Maybe a Leg Scythe of Slaughter is better than a Longsword (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) nah. Scythes used to have highest ADB, and Longswords a bit lower than now. but they started to become redundant, so they were merged into the actual Longswords - who have ADB quite closer to old Scythes, afaik QUOTE(f4tal @ May 18 2016, 13:36)  I would like to wear this stuff. Are they heavy-armor type? Are they summing up in additive or in multiplicative way? And here I am guessed that 55% block is a much xD
yes, they are heavy-type and yes, they stack multiplicatively. when a Shield + its ability already gives you 60%, expect for one Shield piece to add less than half of its Block or. never tried with more than one piece but i guess you would have to choose between 7500 ADB/60% block and 2500 ADB/70% block, actual numbers slightly varying depending on how much you forge such pieces. something like that. This post has been edited by Scremaz: May 18 2016, 13:41
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May 18 2016, 13:43
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f4tal
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QUOTE choose between 7500 ADB/60% block and 2500 ADB/70% block This make me sad... ... But still lets forge them up! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) I am poor, bytheway ^^"
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May 18 2016, 13:45
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ May 18 2016, 13:40)  So using a Scythe would be ok even in this patch after all (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) it has lower ACC than a Longsword though - which is already low to begin with. plus, Scythes ranges are really fucked: there are even pieces without Crit or without ACC, random. it would be only bragging rights. QUOTE(ppp82p @ May 18 2016, 13:40)  As for Mag/Leg Shield of the Barrier...a 1H set with that armor would be quite unkillable (and slow af) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) pretty much what i wrote in the edit. again, bragging rights only. one Shielding piece may be useful for low-levels who are in a bit of trouble, but more than that is only a waste of firepower. also, being them basically Plate armors they have high BUR, so you will easily go past 70BUR threshold - which means less crit. very tanky but again, bragging rights only
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May 18 2016, 13:46
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Cleavs
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speaking of obsoletes, i'm seriously in doubt what to put this week. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) suggestions welcomed
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May 18 2016, 13:52
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Juggernaut Santa
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Block for 1H Slaughter can be way higher than 60%, Void's shield has 61% block alone (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) As for the Shield of Barrier stuff, assuming each piece has 15% Block with a bit of forging, plus 12,5% block from the ability...it should result in 85% block (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) 1-[(1-0.15)*(1-0.15)*(1-0,15)*(1-0,15)*(1-0,15)*(1-0,61)*(1-0,125)] = 0,848~ Or am I wrong?
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May 18 2016, 13:56
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ May 18 2016, 13:52)  Block for 1H Slaughter can be way higher than 60%, Void's shield has 61% block alone (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) void is lv500 and his shield may be heavily forged, so scaling is on his side. i was speaking about a more rational mid-level with mid-forged shield QUOTE(ppp82p @ May 18 2016, 13:52)  As for the Shield of Barrier stuff, assuming each piece has 15% Block with a bit of forging, plus 12,5% block from the ability...it should result in 85% block (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) 1-[(1-0.15)*(1-0.15)*(1-0,15)*(1-0,15)*(1-0,15)*(1-0,61)*(1-0,125)] = 0,848~ Or am I wrong? yes, you're wrong. please find me a pair of Shield Boots (with low base roll to begin with and low slot multiplier) with 15% Block. and even if you can reach it with forging, still better to forge Cuirass for better ROI (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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