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post Mar 26 2011, 00:08
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Mar 25 2011, 16:11) *

I already did. It was called Legendary arenas on Battletoads. Do that and then maybe you'd know what it feels like to be me.

First to BT the Gods > First to BT the Legendary arenas.
The former was only theoretically possible while the latter was obviously doable if admittedly a daunting task.

BT EoD > IWBTH FSM

Come back after you've done both.


and the original FSM on Normal > IWBTH FSM now
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post Mar 26 2011, 01:54
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Hito's flexing his muscles for me. If you can pull yourself away from your monitor and your bag of Doritos for a while, you can come over tonight. We'll listen to some Bieber (I saw you in Rad's thread, don't deny it) and drink some appletinis and get jiggy with it.
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post Mar 26 2011, 06:12
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Mar 25 2011, 15:08) *

BT EoD > IWBTH FSM

Come back after you've done both.

In time, yeah. In difficulty? I doubt it, but I haven't tried IWBTH.
And I can't do either because I don't have a gear set for either.

QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Mar 25 2011, 15:08) *

and the original FSM on Normal > IWBTH FSM now

Yeah, being able to be literally immortal sure made it a bitch. Maybe it was boring as shit, but so is everything else in the HV once you get far enough.
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post Mar 26 2011, 06:15
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Boggy's trying to cockblock Hito.

*_* (starry eyes)
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post Mar 26 2011, 08:38
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I just got killed in Endgame on the last round cuz the boss crit me for 1.4k magical damage before I could bewilder it, FML



edit:
I made myself feel better by doing a grindfest session (which I usually don't even bother with). I made back more than the credits I would've gained from clearing Endgame, a boss trophy, and even an artifact to boot. Look Endgame, I don't need you anymore, this relationship is over, I got something better now, and her name is Grindfest.


edit2:
I bet you're all thinking how fitting my last sentence is. I'm feeling pretty clever, yeah

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post Mar 26 2011, 16:18
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It seem everyone in the board sucks, me included...


5 4 Buktore has been defeated.
5 3 You hit Buktore for 1110 piercing damage.
4 7 Buktore gains the effect Penetrated Armor.
4 6 You hit Buktore for 916 piercing damage.
2 12 You evade the attack from Buktore.
2 5 You hit Buktore for 484 piercing damage.
0 3 Spawned Monster B: MID=3746 (Buktore) LV=131 HP=1608 MP=44 SP=45 NA=182 Type=hostile


2 2 Ichy has been defeated.
2 1 You hit Ichy for 1416 piercing damage.
1 6 Ichy misses the attack against you.
0 6 Spawned Monster E: MID=3648 (Ichy) LV=133 HP=1328 MP=138 SP=47 NA=177 Type=hostile


Hey, at least I'm better than Ichy! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Mar 26 2011, 16:47
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QUOTE(buktore @ Mar 26 2011, 17:18) *

It seem everyone in the board sucks, me included...
5 4 Buktore has been defeated.
5 3 You hit Buktore for 1110 piercing damage.
4 7 Buktore gains the effect Penetrated Armor.
4 6 You hit Buktore for 916 piercing damage.
2 12 You evade the attack from Buktore.
2 5 You hit Buktore for 484 piercing damage.
0 3 Spawned Monster B: MID=3746 (Buktore) LV=131 HP=1608 MP=44 SP=45 NA=182 Type=hostile
2 2 Ichy has been defeated.
2 1 You hit Ichy for 1416 piercing damage.
1 6 Ichy misses the attack against you.
0 6 Spawned Monster E: MID=3648 (Ichy) LV=133 HP=1328 MP=138 SP=47 NA=177 Type=hostile
Hey, at least I'm better than Ichy! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Thats not hard... for now.

95% of my Crsytals are for Liselotte (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Mar 26 2011, 16:55
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I'm just gonna keep editing this post

Ok, so I just found a new Ebony stick of blowy-upped-ness, and I found a new Katalox stick of the same a little while back.

It started me thinking about the max possible values for staves. We know all the other important ones already. Important defined by me as cloth gear with useful suffixes. EDB, Prof., Evade. Technically Battlecaster light too, but there's such a tiny sample size, it's not really realistic atm.

Essentially what I'm curious about is the following statistics. Listed value is scaled to 300. Value in parentheses is the base value.
Max MDM on Destruction for Ebony and Katalox:
Ebony: 61.6 (15.4)
Katalox: 56.78 (14.19)
I want to say that these have the same maximum, but obviously I can't be sure. Hmmm, maybe not. I'd love to see a 60+ Katalox though.

Max MDM on non-Destruction for both:
Ebony: 35.03 (8.76)
Katalox: 33.82 (8.46)
Again, I want to say these would be the same. Pretty sure I've seen higher for both as well.

Max EDB on EDB suffixed Ebony and Katalox (Mjolnir, Surtr, Heimdall, etc.):
Ebony: 33.48 (4.78)
Katalox: 33.48 (4.78)
Same max it seems.

Max EDB on non-suffixed for both (Destruction, Focus, etc.):
Ebony: 14.65 (2.09)
Katalox: 20.93 (2.99)
I think I've seen higher for Katalox too. Most likely different maximums considering the large discrepancy.

Max Prof. on Elementalist/Demon-Fiend/Heaven-Sent:
Ebony: 81.4 (11.63) I know Hito had/sold one of these that was higher than that. Just as a note, I'm not counting Alpha7's pre-nerf one.
Katalox: 70.68 (10.01) I know there has to be higher than that too.

Max Prof. on other suffix for both:
Ebony: 40.7 (5.81)
Katalox: 42.84 (6.12)
Same max?

Max INT on non Fox versions for both:
Ebony: 13.16 (1.41)
Katalox: 13.16 (1.41)
Most likely the same max.

Max INT on Fox versions for both:
Ebony: 24.44 (2.62)
Katalox: 23.5 (2.52)
Most likely the same max.

Max Curse-Weaver/Priestess/Earth-Walker Prof. Not 100% sure they're all the same, but most likely.
96.39 (13.77)

Hmmm, did I miss anything important?

Oh hey, while I'm at it, Fox stuff. So far as I can tell, Fox Phase does NOT have a higher maximum than Gossamer.
Values scaled to 300
Head: 19.74
Body: 24.44
Gloves: 17.86
Legs: 20.68 (I remember seeing something higher than this too)
Feet: 15.96

Seems to be in decreasing increments of around 2 @ level 300. 24->22(I assume)->20->18->16

If anyone has a higher value or has seen one for any category, feel free to post it.

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post Mar 26 2011, 17:19
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I have an 60+ MDM Ebony (@ 304 I think) somewhere in my stash. Will post it when im done with my my 500 rounds Arena i just started (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)
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post Mar 26 2011, 17:30
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QUOTE(Conquest101 @ Mar 26 2011, 14:55) *

Max EDB on EDB suffixed Ebony and Katalox (Mjolnir, Surtr, Heimdall, etc.):
Ebony: 33.48 (4.78)
Katalox: 29.3 (4.19)
Katalox is Hito's from his recent auction. All the ones I have now are shitty. I'm sure there are higher ones. Possibly the same max?
Katalox has the same as ebony.

Ebony fox 20.68 (2.22) For now.

QUOTE(Conquest101 @ Mar 26 2011, 14:55) *
Max Prof. on Elementalist/Demon-Fiend/Heaven-Sent:
Ebony: 81.4 (11.63) I know Hito had/sold one of these that was higher than that. Just as a note, I'm not counting Alpha7's pre-nerf one.
Katalox: 70.68 (10.01) I know there has to be higher than that too.
Include Willow 96.39 (13.77)
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post Mar 26 2011, 17:35
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I should have seen a katalox staff with base forbidden 11.02.
Should be in one of the biddings in this 2 weeks, since i started my record.
But i cannot prove that or confirm that it's not pre-nerfed
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post Mar 26 2011, 17:46
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Mar 26 2011, 08:30) *

Include Willow 96.39 (13.77)


Added it as its own category, since it's possible that the values differ from Elementalist/H-S/D-F

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post Mar 26 2011, 17:51
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2 Legendarys each round? *escape* (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Superior Ebony Staff of Destruction
Level: 304 -> 300
Attack Damage Multiplier: 9.85
Magic Damage Multiplier: 61.6
Magic Accuracy Bonus: 21.78
Magic Critical Bonus: 3.4
Burden: 8.35
Elemental Proficiency Bonus: 29.99
Deprecating Proficiency Bonus: 17.13
Fire Damage Bonus: 12.56
Cold Damage Bonus: 8.37
Elec Damage Bonus: 6.28
Wind Damage Bonus: 6.28
INT: 8.46
WIS: 4.7
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post Mar 26 2011, 17:53
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Mar 26 2011, 23:51) *

2 Legendarys each round? *escape* (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Superior Ebony Staff of Destruction
Level: 304 -> 300
Attack Damage Multiplier: 9.85
Magic Damage Multiplier: 61.6
Magic Accuracy Bonus: 21.78
Magic Critical Bonus: 3.4
Burden: 8.35
Elemental Proficiency Bonus: 29.99
Deprecating Proficiency Bonus: 17.13
Fire Damage Bonus: 12.56
Cold Damage Bonus: 8.37
Elec Damage Bonus: 6.28
Wind Damage Bonus: 6.28
INT: 8.46
WIS: 4.7


Wow, that's an insane staff
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post Mar 26 2011, 18:09
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Superior Ebony Staff of the Fox INT: 24.44@300 2.62 base
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post Mar 26 2011, 18:09
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Mar 26 2011, 08:51) *

2 Legendarys each round? *escape* (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Superior Ebony Staff of Destruction
Level: 304 -> 300
Attack Damage Multiplier: 9.85
Magic Damage Multiplier: 61.6
Magic Accuracy Bonus: 21.78
Magic Critical Bonus: 3.4
Burden: 8.35
Elemental Proficiency Bonus: 29.99
Deprecating Proficiency Bonus: 17.13
Fire Damage Bonus: 12.56
Cold Damage Bonus: 8.37
Elec Damage Bonus: 6.28
Wind Damage Bonus: 6.28
INT: 8.46
WIS: 4.7


Fire damage wise, probably better than both of mine. I can only imagine the perfect staff. 60+ MDM, 14+ Fire/Elec, 40+ Prof., 13+ INT. Probably would take a Magnificent roll to achieve though.
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post Mar 26 2011, 18:23
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QUOTE(Conquest101 @ Mar 26 2011, 16:09) *

Fire damage wise, probably better than both of mine. I can only imagine the perfect staff. 60+ MDM, 14+ Fire/Elec, 40+ Prof., 13+ INT. Probably would take a Magnificent roll to achieve though.


The highest MDM staff i've found is only 53.15@300 and its only a Fine Ebony Staff of Destruction. Its messed up that its stats are so close to that of a superior. Maybe its time I use my Shimmering Present on a staff.
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post Mar 26 2011, 18:46
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I think you were thinking about these gloves.

Same base value
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Average Gossamer Gloves of the Fox
Level: 308 -> 300
Magic Accuracy Bonus: 2.29
Physical Absorption: 3.71
Physical Mitigation: 0.91
Magical Absorption: 6.95
Magical Mitigation: 1.59
Evade Chance: 2.63
Burden: 5.58
INT: 17.86
WIS: 4.7


My C-W staff has the same base proficiency as cmdct's as well.

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post Mar 26 2011, 18:54
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Mar 26 2011, 09:46) *

I think you were thinking about these gloves.

Same base value
My C-W staff has the same base proficiency as cmdct's as well.


Ok, so my Fox pattern seems to fit then. Just need a 22ish pair of pants.

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post Mar 26 2011, 22:49
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Maybe you should make a new thread with all your proposed max stats so it can be stickied. I know I sure keep forgetting all the max EDB for phase a lot. What's the max for shoes?
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