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post Mar 20 2016, 02:56
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Mar 20 2016, 05:51) *

I have shrined not so many, but still good amount of boss trophies. Here is what I have got (maybe somebody will be interested in data for statistics purpose):
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People used to take example of boss trophies using batch of 1000.
Sample of 100 is too small for something like this.
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post Mar 20 2016, 03:24
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QUOTE(Colman @ Mar 20 2016, 00:56) *
People used to take example of boss trophies using batch of 1000.
Sample of 100 is too small for something like this.
Even 1000 is likely small (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Eg in fest, 1000 rounds, I get anywhere from 3 to 16 or so chaos tokens. The average for my training/perks is probably close to 9.5, but I think I would only reliably get below a reasonable margin of error of ~10% after 15 or so fests, which is 15k rounds.

Shrining Legs from lower tier trophies may well be on a similar order of magnitude, probably more. Getting accurate conclusions about low-probability events is very annoying, your sample needs to be so large... Good thing many of us on E-H often have time and funds to spend...
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post Mar 20 2016, 05:54
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I wonder when the Easter hunt will begin... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Mar 20 2016, 06:02
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I wonder when the Easter hunt will begin... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

next month usually (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Mar 20 2016, 09:25
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People used to take example of boss trophies using batch of 1000.
Sample of 100 is too small for something like this.

I know. I saw somebody did 1000 sapling here (sssss2?) and Ckyc did 1000 [docs.google.com] noodle statistics

What I did is not statistics at all, it is data. Maybe someone trying to shrine 1000 bosses and he shrine 900 of them already. He found my post and put my ~100 data into his calculations to end his research?

Maybe someone already has statistics like this on goggle sheet and he take my ~100 data to make his calculation more correct?

100 is very small, I agree, but if I want to shrine them, why not to share my results with other? ^^

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post Mar 20 2016, 10:03
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Mar 20 2016, 14:25) *

I know. I saw somebody did 1000 sapling here (sssss2?) and Ckyc did 1000 [docs.google.com] noodle statistics

What I did is not statistics at all, it is data. Maybe someone trying to shrine 1000 bosses and he shrine 900 of them already. He found my post and put my ~100 data into his calculations to end his research?

Maybe someone already has statistics like this on goggle sheet and he take my ~100 data to make his calculation more correct?

100 is very small, I agree, but if I want to shrine them, why not to share my results with other? ^^

milannews shrine alot of noodly too and have post it somewhere (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Mar 20 2016, 10:16
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milannews shrine alot of noodly too

Found it, thanks ^^

For other who interested:
1000 Noodly Appendage for Cloth (patch 0.83)
500 Noodly Appendage for Staff (patch 0.82)

If you would like to know my opinion, we need to grab all this statistics and datas and post in one thread ^^

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post Mar 20 2016, 10:26
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I am thinking of IW average weapon to level 10 and sent to FereeSHop. Not sure does the FreeSHop need them. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(f4tal @ Mar 20 2016, 16:16) *

Found it, thanks ^^

For other who interested:
1000 Noodly Appendage for Cloth (patch 0.83)
500 Noodly Appendage for Staff (patch 0.82)

If you would like to know my opinion, we need to grab all this statistics and datas and post in one thread ^^

There is only sad results. No reason to organize them. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

EDIT:
It take so long to IW my armor.
Still have 3 pieces to go, if I won them in the auction.

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post Mar 20 2016, 10:50
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QUOTE(Colman @ Mar 20 2016, 15:26) *

I am thinking of IW average weapon to level 10 and sent to FereeSHop. Not sure does the FreeSHop need them. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
There is only sad results. No reason to organize them. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

EDIT:
It take so long to IW my armor.
Still have 3 pieces to go, if I won them in the auction.

you can do it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Just remember that super offer free reforge service as long your phase not get bind (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

amnesia is expensive now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Mar 20 2016, 10:57
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Mar 20 2016, 16:50) *

you can do it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Just remember that super offer free reforge service as long your phase not get bind (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

amnesia is expensive now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Compare to the forging cost and ED cost, shards' cost is not that significant. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Mar 20 2016, 11:12
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QUOTE(Colman @ Mar 20 2016, 15:57) *

Compare to the forging cost and ED cost, shards' cost is not that significant. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

well , it still nice to save half of our amnesia shards cost (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


just wondering , how many trophies that I need to shrine to get my first leg from it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

kinda desperate now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Mar 20 2016, 11:17
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QUOTE(Colman @ Mar 20 2016, 08:26) *
I am thinking of IW average weapon to level 10 and sent to FereeSHop. Not sure does the FreeSHop need them. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Maybe a more on target question: would the potential users of the average equip use them for any length of time for them to really benefit from the IW10?

Probably not. Another problem is that IWing only 10 rounds at a time means you need some 20-30 runs. Not hard, but annoying and boring IMO.
QUOTE(Colman @ Mar 20 2016, 08:57) *
Compare to the forging cost and ED cost, shards' cost is not that significant. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
Which is exactly why I decided to offer the service for free (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) It already pays for itself.
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post Mar 20 2016, 13:10
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Mar 20 2016, 17:17) *

Maybe a more on target question: would the potential users of the average equip use them for any length of time for them to really benefit from the IW10?

Probably not. Another problem is that IWing only 10 rounds at a time means you need some 20-30 runs. Not hard, but annoying and boring IMO.
Which is exactly why I decided to offer the service for free (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) It already pays for itself.

As average weapon only require 10 Fragments the bind, it may be a good idea for new player to bind an average weapon with void strike.


P.S:
My stock of HG cloth used up instantly after I switch one piece of my my armor from old mag to new leg. It seems I need some time to collect the HG cloth for my other 4 pieces of armor.

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post Mar 20 2016, 13:15
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QUOTE(Colman @ Mar 20 2016, 18:10) *

As average weapon only require 10 Fragments the bind, it may be a good idea for new player to bind an average weapon with void strike.
P.S:
My stock of HG cloth used up instantly after I switch one piece of my my armor from old mag to new leg. It seems I need some time to collect the HG cloth for my other 4 pieces of armor.

just open WTB thread , problem solved (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Mar 20 2016, 13:20
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just open WTB thread , problem solved (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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The required amount is too high.
If I open WTB thread, I need to set a price higher than Void's. And I am sure it will make the market price even higher.
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The required amount is too high.
If I open WTB thread, I need to set a price higher than Void's. And I am sure it will make the market price even higher.


that the plan (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Mar 20 2016, 14:00
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QUOTE(Colman @ Mar 20 2016, 09:26) *

I am thinking of IW average weapon to level 10 and sent to FereeSHop. Not sure does the FreeSHop need them. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

not sure as well, since i'm not so much into FS anymore. maybe i should try to find a help for piyin, i'm starting to feel guilty (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
however, it's surely true that they only need 10 fragments to be bound and the likes of you can clear such IWs with ease, but wouldn't it be better to simply forge ADB and PABs to 5? LG Metals have low market as well, yet it may still provide a decent bonus for starters. once they finish using that weapon, they can either gift it or salvage it - bam, 5k worth of materials per every forged stat to re-forge the new one without bounding them to the idea they won't find a Hollowforged weapon anymore.
in a level range where you look even at sparing 1k from potions it may be a more immediate help. clearly it's only a suggestion, since it's your wallet we're speaking about (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Mar 20 2016, 14:34
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not sure as well, since i'm not so much into FS anymore. maybe i should try to find a help for piyin, i'm starting to feel guilty (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
however, it's surely true that they only need 10 fragments to be bound and the likes of you can clear such IWs with ease, but wouldn't it be better to simply forge ADB and PABs to 5? LG Metals have low market as well, yet it may still provide a decent bonus for starters. once they finish using that weapon, they can either gift it or salvage it - bam, 5k worth of materials per every forged stat to re-forge the new one without bounding them to the idea they won't find a Hollowforged weapon anymore.
in a level range where you look even at sparing 1k from potions it may be a more immediate help. clearly it's only a suggestion, since it's your wallet we're speaking about (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

With the current ED price, newbies can simply selling ED and get Mag+ gears with the credits. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
I have found that selling ED earn me more credit than other means in the last 2 weeks.

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QUOTE(Colman @ Mar 20 2016, 13:34) *

With the current ED price, newbies can simply selling ED and get Mag+ gears with the credits. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
I have found that selling ED earn me more credit than other means in the last 2 weeks.

yep. on the other hand, Artifacts price is raising too. with the current price, it's better to sell artifacts rather than to shrine for EDs.
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post Mar 20 2016, 16:21
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