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post Jan 9 2016, 09:38
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QUOTE(mechafujoshi @ Jan 9 2016, 07:29) *

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/EHTracker#Rewards says GP depends on size of the torrent, but it doesn't say that toplist points do. If toplist points depend only on completions and seedmins, and seedmins count even if the gallery is never downloaded, then maybe you're being pushed off the toplist by people who spam torrents on small galleries and dead galleries.

i also think so, but want to know real numbers.

ps: lol, in the yearly top50 toplist a person, who done most of his score in last 7 days of year with just 300+ torrents.
thats not even a spam...

upd: and that means olny completions counts mostly affected on score. too sad for me and my big useless torrents.

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post Jan 9 2016, 11:36
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QUOTE(VriskaSerket @ Jan 9 2016, 09:38) *

i also think so, but want to know real numbers.

ps: lol, in the yearly top50 toplist a person, who done most of his score in last 7 days of year with just 300+ torrents.
thats not even a spam...

upd: and that means olny completions counts mostly affected on score. too sad for me and my big useless torrents.


maybe it's because it's a bunch of galleries bundled together? or how does your EHTracker overview looks? do those numbers go up?
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post Jan 9 2016, 12:31
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jan 3 2016, 10:05) *
Whenever he does something that triggers an update of the hacky forum extension-y bits.

QUOTE(tazmanian devil @ Jan 8 2016, 22:00) *
Now that I think about it more, if you change your title (Godslayer, etc.), that'll trigger the hacky forum bits.

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it works (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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post Jan 9 2016, 12:33
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Jan 9 2016, 09:36) *

maybe it's because it's a bunch of galleries bundled together? or how does your EHTracker overview looks? do those numbers go up?

https://e-hentai.org/g/891718/190c49efb7/
and whole pack of all parts of this gallery in torrent. recreated ~every 4 parts.

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nothing wrong with stats, just like it should be.
i suppose im not in toplists because uploads(Gb),seedmins,torrent size not affected(or really slightly affected) on score.

well, testing now:spamming torrent on every new gallery. in one day that will ~triple all my EHTracker activity for last 5 years (if count only completes)
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post Jan 9 2016, 13:23
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QUOTE(VriskaSerket @ Jan 9 2016, 08:38) *

upd: and that means olny completions counts mostly affected on score. too sad for me and my big useless torrents.

not an expert, but personally i find more appealing a series of little torrents rather a huge, tanky one. especially if it comes with either only a single RAR or in a very big gallery, whch gives close-to-zero chances of browsing
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post Jan 9 2016, 13:28
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 9 2016, 11:23) *
not an expert, but personally i find more appealing a series of little torrents rather a huge, tanky one. especially if it comes with either only a single RAR or in a very big gallery, whch gives close-to-zero chances of browsing
For big galleries, I agree that would be easier, but with current rules, smaller torrents will be put on the to-expunge list if a more complete torrent for the gallery exists.
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post Jan 9 2016, 13:52
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 9 2016, 11:23) *

not an expert, but personally i find more appealing a series of little torrents rather a huge, tanky one. especially if it comes with either only a single RAR or in a very big gallery, whch gives close-to-zero chances of browsing

not possible in this case. i cant organize that pack by small packs because i constantly replacing pics with better quality/original name. and after ~15k pics only their file names = (? idk which word can be used in this case) 900+kb, what broke e-hentai torrent system.


QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jan 9 2016, 11:28) *

For big galleries, I agree that would be easier, but with current rules, smaller torrents will be put on the to-expunge list if a more complete torrent for the gallery exists.

no one cant create more complete torrent for my own gallery pack except me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jan 9 2016, 14:12
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QUOTE(VriskaSerket @ Jan 9 2016, 12:33) *

https://e-hentai.org/g/891718/190c49efb7/
and whole pack of all parts of this gallery in torrent. recreated ~every 4 parts.

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nothing wrong with stats, just like it should be.
i suppose im not in toplists because uploads(Gb),seedmins,torrent size not affected(or really slightly affected) on score.

well, testing now:spamming torrent on every new gallery. in one day that will ~triple all my EHTracker activity for last 5 years (if count only completes)


here's mine. i'm haven't upload anything/torrents for a long while. it seems aside from the total uploaded and up/down ratio. nothing of yours look too special.

all time rank#828 with a score of 5832156.

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post Jan 9 2016, 14:18
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QUOTE(VriskaSerket @ Jan 9 2016, 11:33) *

nothing wrong with stats, just like it should be.
i suppose im not in toplists because uploads(Gb),seedmins,torrent size not affected(or really slightly affected) on score.

well, testing now:spamming torrent on every new gallery. in one day that will ~triple all my EHTracker activity for last 5 years (if count only completes)


That should work, a single torrent, if big and shared enough, can usually push me in the top50 for a day, so creating many torrents should easily help you get in the toplist.

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post Jan 9 2016, 14:23
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Jan 9 2016, 12:12) *

here's mine. i'm haven't upload anything/torrents for a long while. it seems aside from the total uploaded and up/down ratio. nothing of yours look too special.

all time rank#828 with a score of 5832156.

yep, your completes and seedmins counts pretty high.
in my case all stats from only single torrent at time. and with current score system i got nothing with more uploads...



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post Jan 9 2016, 14:25
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QUOTE(jenga201 @ Jan 9 2016, 03:36) *

That's not really true. It takes a month or more to save up hundreds of HGx.
At that rate, you can fully forge one item for a set in what.. a year? (takes at least a couple thousand)

You plebs consume way more than we 'high level' players can generate.

HGx is pricey because it's RARE.

i'm not really fond of this level of economy but you know, it's not like only higherups can forge. in the current HV it's basically impossible to survive without at least a little forging. and while looking for upgrades of one shade piece of mine, i saw a certain piece of a certain someone: i guess that the materials needed for that piece alone were on par with all i've used to forge both my current sets (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jan 9 2016, 12:28) *

For big galleries, I agree that would be easier, but with current rules, smaller torrents will be put on the to-expunge list if a more complete torrent for the gallery exists.

QUOTE(VriskaSerket @ Jan 9 2016, 12:52) *

not possible in this case. i cant organize that pack by small packs because i constantly replacing pics with better quality/original name. and after ~15k pics only their file names = (? idk which word can be used in this case) 900+kb, what broke e-hentai torrent system.

uh, alright. then i guess there's no easy solution (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

QUOTE(VriskaSerket @ Jan 9 2016, 12:52) *

no one cant create more complete torrent for my own gallery pack except me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

just wondering, which theme for that gallery?
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post Jan 9 2016, 14:30
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Make a post rant for upload vs seed minute maybe tenboro will change it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Just like the rating thing.
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post Jan 9 2016, 14:30
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jan 9 2016, 12:18) *

That should work, a single torrent, if big and shared enough, can usually push me in the top50 for a day, so creating many torrents should easily help you get in the toplist.

(I have 85 torrents)

i created 28 in 2 hours and already got +20% of my completes count (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

thanks all for the info. i got how that works.

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 9 2016, 12:25) *

just wondering, which theme for that gallery?

MLP (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) i already left a link
or you about last part? no theme in this case, just random new arts i can find.

QUOTE(Void Domain @ Jan 9 2016, 12:30) *

Make a post rant for upload vs seed minute maybe tenboro will change it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Just like the rating thing.

im ok with current one, not really fair, but ok.
just wanted to know math of it.

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post Jan 9 2016, 14:32
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QUOTE(VriskaSerket @ Jan 9 2016, 14:30) *

i created 28 in 2 hours and already got +20% of my completes count (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

thanks all for the info. i got how that works.
MLP (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) i already left a link
or you about last part? no theme in this case, just random new arts i can find.


i guess completion counts a lot more. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

QUOTE(Void Domain @ Jan 9 2016, 14:30) *

Make a post rant for upload vs seed minute maybe tenboro will change it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Just like the rating thing.


but then it wouldn't change much. when I'm sure some toplisters have 100+TB uploads and 9 digit seed minute from thousands of torrents.

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post Jan 9 2016, 14:37
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Jan 9 2016, 12:32) *

but then it wouldn't change much. when I'm sure some toplisters have 100+TB uploads and 9 digit seed minute from thousands of torrents.

yep, just like it should work: you(or your PC)(or your money (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)) doing work for system and get reward instead.
right now ~2 weeks of spam can give you yearly EHTracker top10.

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post Jan 9 2016, 14:51
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QUOTE(VriskaSerket @ Jan 9 2016, 13:30) *

MLP (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) i already left a link
or you about last part? no theme in this case, just random new arts i can find.

hmm... twilight sparkle with huge boobs and horse penis? not my cup of tea, i hoped better... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

QUOTE(malkatmp @ Jan 9 2016, 13:32) *

i guess completion counts a lot more. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

which is quite reasonable

QUOTE(malkatmp @ Jan 9 2016, 13:32) *

but then it wouldn't change much. when I'm sure some toplisters have 100+TB uploads and 9 digit seed minute from thousands of torrents.

huh... i guess it's nothing i can really try to stick my nose in, with my 30 kB upload (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Jan 9 2016, 15:32
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 9 2016, 14:51) *

huh... i guess it's nothing i can really try to stick my nose in, with my 30 kB upload (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


tbh, upload speed doesn't really matter that much. since, once there's more completions there are more "seeds"/helps. iirc, you can just DL the Newest galleries then make a torrent. Do 10-20 a day and you can get into top 50 pretty regularly.
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post Jan 9 2016, 15:40
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Jan 9 2016, 14:32) *

tbh, upload speed doesn't really matter that much. since, once there's more completions there are more "seeds"/helps. iirc, you can just DL the Newest galleries then make a torrent. Do 10-20 a day and you can get into top 50 pretty regularly.

hmm... you have a point here
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post Jan 9 2016, 15:45
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Jan 9 2016, 14:32) *

tbh, upload speed doesn't really matter that much. since, once there's more completions there are more "seeds"/helps. iirc, you can just DL the Newest galleries then make a torrent. Do 10-20 a day and you can get into top 50 pretty regularly.

But in that way you're being rude to the peers, and more likely than not someone will make another torrent and seed at 1MB/s.
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jan 9 2016, 14:45) *

But in that way you're being rude to the peers, and more likely than not someone will make another torrent and seed at 1MB/s.

then another way may be to be lucky enough to find - just saying - a full Black Dog or Gumma works first. btw, what's so special with THE top gallery of all-time? it seems to me it was only lucky enough to end first and now everybody clicks on it just to see what it is (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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