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Jan 8 2016, 18:54
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Colman
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Jan 9 2016, 00:25)  Because the item shop bot is shit, we have to use peer to peer trading etc etc.
QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jan 9 2016, 00:48)  nice (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) High demand for mats lately (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) A single old player, who have 100+ PL1000+ army, can dash out 5 digit of HG materials. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) There is at least 5 of those players in this forum. This post has been edited by Colman: Jan 9 2016, 03:02
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Jan 8 2016, 19:01
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nobody_xxx
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Colman @ Jan 9 2016, 00:54)  A single old player, who have 100+ PL1000+ army, can dash out 5 digit of HG materials. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) There is as least 5 of those players in this forum. Dani , Gc , jenga , kei , andywong , mori (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) That six (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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Jan 8 2016, 19:21
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Void Domain
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 2,131
Joined: 30-May 10

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QUOTE(Colman @ Jan 9 2016, 00:54)  A single old player, who have 100+ PL1000+ army, can dash out 5 digit of HG materials. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) There is as least 5 of those players in this forum. Yeah thats exactly the problem. Only a few people has big stock and you have to contact them one by one. And some are too lazy to sell. If we have a proper item shop bot like the hath exchange people can just afk sell/buy.
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Jan 9 2016, 03:03
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Colman
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Jan 9 2016, 01:21)  Yeah thats exactly the problem. Only a few people has big stock and you have to contact them one by one. And some are too lazy to sell. If we have a proper item shop bot like the hath exchange people can just afk sell/buy.
And one of them is controlling the price (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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Jan 9 2016, 03:16
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karyl123
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Jan 9 2016, 00:21)  Yeah thats exactly the problem. Only a few people has big stock and you have to contact them one by one. And some are too lazy to sell. If we have a proper item shop bot like the hath exchange people can just afk sell/buy.
I have suggest to make an auction shop for everything like in most MMORPG, but the answer is always a big "NOPE, TOO MUCH TO CODE"
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Jan 9 2016, 03:32
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(karyl123 @ Jan 9 2016, 01:16)  I have suggest to make an auction shop for everything like in most MMORPG, but the answer is always a big
"NOPE, TOO MUCH TO CODE" The issue is clearly not "too much code". All it would require is to reduce or remove the minimum price number on ISB, and to change the profit stealing from 50% to something reasonable like 2% like with the other exchanges. But for some reason, it is desired for everyone to do everything manually, and to get them to look through each of the 100 shop pages in order to figure out the exact best price for a transaction.
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Jan 9 2016, 04:36
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Koaen
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Joined: 7-April 12

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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Jan 8 2016, 12:21)  Yeah thats exactly the problem. Only a few people has big stock and you have to contact them one by one. And some are too lazy to sell. If we have a proper item shop bot like the hath exchange people can just afk sell/buy.
That's not really true. It takes a month or more to save up hundreds of HGx. At that rate, you can fully forge one item for a set in what.. a year? (takes at least a couple thousand) You plebs consume way more than we 'high level' players can generate. HGx is pricey because it's RARE.
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Jan 9 2016, 06:10
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VriskaSerket
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somepony can explain how exactly EHTracker Toplist works? got nothing for yesterday 100+ gb whole day uploading.
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Jan 9 2016, 06:48
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milannews
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nvm
This post has been edited by milannews: Jan 9 2016, 06:52
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Jan 9 2016, 07:50
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Void Domain
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QUOTE(VriskaSerket @ Jan 9 2016, 12:10)  somepony can explain how exactly EHTracker Toplist works? got nothing for yesterday 100+ gb whole day uploading.
You have to be the one make the torrent or own the gallery. If still yes, you should go to the help forum (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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Jan 9 2016, 08:19
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VriskaSerket
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Jan 9 2016, 05:50)  You have to be the one make the torrent or own the gallery. If still yes, you should go to the help forum (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) too lazy. i hoped for a wiki link with lots of math.
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Jan 9 2016, 08:36
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Necromusume
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 17-May 12

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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jan 9 2016, 01:32)  The issue is clearly not "too much code". All it would require is to reduce or remove the minimum price number on ISB, and to change the profit stealing from 50% to something reasonable like 2% like with the other exchanges. And display the actual price you'd get, not just the highest bid. And then you'd still have to manually sell 500 mid-grade metals one at a time to avoid getting skunked since it doesn't display how many units the offer is good for. To completely automate things, would need some more code. QUOTE(Tenboro @ May 1 2015, 20:48)  I do plan to add an exchange-like feature at some point, but it's quite a bit of work to get right, and hasn't been a priority since people can always find a way to trade stuff. QUOTE(VriskaSerket @ Jan 9 2016, 04:10)  somepony can explain how exactly EHTracker Toplist works? got nothing for yesterday 100+ gb whole day uploading. http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Toplists#Time_DiscrepanciesThis post has been edited by mechafujoshi: Jan 9 2016, 08:48
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Jan 9 2016, 08:54
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VriskaSerket
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QUOTE(mechafujoshi @ Jan 9 2016, 06:36)  and what? nothing new for me and i still not know what exactly i doing wrong. more details if needed: i created torrent (46gb) for my gallery, seeded 100+gb in ~12 hours 1 day ago. ~2 torrent completions from me and ~4 total from all seeds. how much EHTracker score i got? This post has been edited by VriskaSerket: Jan 9 2016, 09:01
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Jan 9 2016, 09:02
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Necromusume
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"and not see these changes in the toplists until the following day or two." If it doesn't show up within 3-4 days, then maybe there is a problem.
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Jan 9 2016, 09:02
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Superlatanium
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(mechafujoshi @ Jan 9 2016, 06:36)  And display the actual price you'd get, not just the highest bid. And then you'd still have to manually sell 500 mid-grade metals one at a time to avoid getting skunked since it doesn't display how many units the offer is good for. To completely automate things, would need some more code. Yeah, I suppose to be perfectly clear it would have to display (highest bid * 0.98). Still, if the ISB is made usable, buy prices will be very predictable (much more than they are now, with no one using it), and anyone with a bit of market sense would see which few items have a listed price significantly higher than normal. Even if nothing is changed but the profit stealing % and minimum price, it would change from " completely unusable" to " the most convenient method to buy and sell" despite an imperfect interface. Strange to spend the effort to code up everything in ISB, which would be a great system, only to render it meaningless by adding those two extra constraints.
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Jan 9 2016, 09:13
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Necromusume
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 17-May 12

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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jan 9 2016, 07:02)  Yeah, I suppose to be perfectly clear it would have to display (highest bid * 0.98). It can be second-highest bid plus 1 credit.
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Jan 9 2016, 09:15
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VriskaSerket
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 27-December 08

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QUOTE(mechafujoshi @ Jan 9 2016, 07:02)  "and not see these changes in the toplists until the following day or two." If it doesn't show up within 3-4 days, then maybe there is a problem.
well, until now i waited year or two. 1.86Tb uploaded in 2k hours, still wasnt in any toplists. i just need a math how that score counting.
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Jan 9 2016, 09:21
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izpekopon
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Joined: 27-August 15

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QUOTE(mechafujoshi @ Jan 9 2016, 15:13)  It can be second-highest bid plus 1 credit.
I think the ISB should charge the buyer for the exact current highest bid and not 2nd highest +1c. As it is, while bidding at 80,000c, i can get away with paying 72002c for a Binding of Destruction (since 2nd highest bid was 72,001c). QUOTE 2016-01-08 16:41 -72002 Auto-buy: 1x Binding of Destruction
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Jan 9 2016, 09:29
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Necromusume
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 17-May 12

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http://ehwiki.org/wiki/EHTracker#Rewards says GP depends on size of the torrent, but it doesn't say that toplist points do. If toplist points depend only on completions and seedmins, and seedmins count even if the gallery is never downloaded, then maybe you're being pushed off the toplist by people who spam torrents on small galleries and dead galleries.
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