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post Jan 3 2016, 22:09
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QUOTE(Epion @ Jan 3 2016, 21:41) *

And a second stroke of luck... is Tb sick or something? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=aed68133f4


wuuuh nice, do u want to IW my Katana ? ;D ill give u 2m extra if u can make it perfect^^
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post Jan 3 2016, 22:39
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I had to IW my waki (4 days), then finish IWing my katana (an other 4 days) and then was ok to move on, but now i have to IW also my new shield (4 days), so... if you can wait all that we can see to it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

oh i forgot to mention i need to IW my full light armor set...

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post Jan 3 2016, 23:10
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QUOTE(Epion @ Jan 3 2016, 21:39) *

I had to IW my waki (4 days), then finish IWing my katana (an other 4 days) and then was ok to move on, but now i have to IW also my new shield (5 days), so... if you can wait all that we can see to it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

if you can make Jug appear on my armors, then i may need some help as well (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Jan 3 2016, 23:23
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Well, let me count jugs unlocked...
shield: 0
helmet:0
armor:0
gauntlets:0
leggings:0
boots:2

Emm... might not be the best idea (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Jan 3 2016, 23:40
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QUOTE(Epion @ Jan 3 2016, 22:23) *

Well, let me count jugs unlocked...
shield: 0
helmet:0
armor:0
gauntlets:0
leggings:0
boots:2

Emm... might not be the best idea (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

and my rapier and waki are already IWed. katana has less requirements and mace is only for a backup. club and second rapier, well - who knows when will i ever use them (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
guess i'll pass then.
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post Jan 4 2016, 05:18
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God help me, I'm going to do PF FSM tonight.
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post Jan 4 2016, 07:19
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QUOTE(Epion @ Jan 4 2016, 05:23) *

Well, let me count jugs unlocked...
shield: 0
helmet:0
armor:0
gauntlets:0
leggings:0
boots:2

Emm... might not be the best idea (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

IIRC, shield cannot get jug, only armor. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jan 4 2016, 14:26
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Jan 4 2016, 04:18) *

God help me, I'm going to do PF FSM tonight.

never did it before at your level? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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IIRC, shield cannot get jug, only armor. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

correct. Shield can only earn elemental resistances
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post Jan 4 2016, 14:48
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You guys just saved me a bunch of Amnesia Shards o_O


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and my rapier and waki are already IWed. katana has less requirements and mace is only for a backup. club and second rapier, well - who knows when will i ever use them (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
guess i'll pass then.


Don't bother with club/rapier dw. Trust me. Just don't.
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post Jan 4 2016, 14:54
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QUOTE(Epion @ Jan 4 2016, 13:48) *

You guys just saved me a bunch of Amnesia Shards o_O
Don't bother with club/rapier dw. Trust me. Just don't.

many veterans may tell you're wrong. but actually i cannot give up my rapier/waki's 82% Parry, so for now club/rapier it's not a priority (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jan 4 2016, 15:05
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Well, the veterans and me won't agree on the Dw, that's for sure. I also like shortsword/rapier that i think all veterans consider bad. Well, it worked fine for me for that little i tried it.
But as for club/rapier... slow clears plus the "safety" was an illusion. If i have to be slow why even try DW? No?
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post Jan 4 2016, 15:11
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QUOTE(Epion @ Jan 4 2016, 14:05) *

Well, the veterans and me won't agree on the Dw, that's for sure. I also like shortsword/rapier that i think all veterans consider bad. Well, it worked fine for me for that little i tried it.
But as for club/rapier... slow clears plus the "safety" was an illusion. If i have to be slow why even try DW? No?

well, tbh personally i don't even find DW so quick (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

however, may i have more details on that shortsword/rapier combo?
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post Jan 4 2016, 15:22
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Not like i tried it that much to be an expert.
I just had that day when i told myself "go for it" and put up a thunder shortsword of balance (didn't even have slaughter) with a waki (also balance), enchanted and went to clear T&T at PF. Finished it smooth and clean. Well, not THAT clean, since i had to heal a lot, but still nothing i would say i had a hard time to deal with.
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post Jan 4 2016, 15:35
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 3 2016, 11:10) *

if you can make Jug appear on my armors, then i may need some help as well (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)



The easy way is if you are also forging the equip. For example for one equip I wasted over 200 shards trying to get to jug 5 but then used this method and got jug 5 near instantly.


Lots of people are already doing it. Basically you use forging to get to jug 1 or jug 2 before going into Item world and you will end up with jug 5 far easier.


Poverty method: Unlock the first potency using the first 5 forges to save mats and salvage and buy back the item when you run out of those to forge. (saves mats)

Fast method: forge item to unlock the first two potencies, if you get jug 1 continue otherwise reforge and try again. If you get jug 1 try for jug 2 if not then reforge.

Benefit: Rapid: you can unlock two potencies and reforge in less than a minute. Once you have Jug 2 unlocked within the first two potencies then you are far more likely to IW Jug 5. So you can have 10 plus attempts to get Jug 2 in time it takes most people to do one IW.


Baller Method: If you are heavy forging you don't even need item world, I got four of my latest phase to jug 5 with zero IW. Unless you are a super rich shop owner or auctioneer then this method is only good for your own equips.
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post Jan 4 2016, 15:44
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QUOTE(Epion @ Jan 4 2016, 14:22) *

Not like i tried it that much to be an expert.
I just had that day when i told myself "go for it" and put up a thunder shortsword of balance (didn't even have slaughter) with a waki (also balance), enchanted and went to clear T&T at PF. Finished it smooth and clean. Well, not THAT clean, since i had to heal a lot, but still nothing i would say i had a hard time to deal with.

you spoke about shortsword/rapier before (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
actually i may give it a try. not certain which the best combo may be, but still...

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The easy way is if you are also forging the equip. For example for one equip I wasted over 200 shards trying to get to jug 5 but then used this method and got jug 5 near instantly.
Lots of people are already doing it. Basically you use forging to get to jug 1 or jug 2 before going into Item world and you will end up with jug 5 far easier.
Poverty method: Unlock the first potency using the first 5 forges to save mats and salvage and buy back the item when you run out of those to forge. (saves mats)

Fast method: forge item to unlock the first two potencies, if you get jug 1 continue otherwise reforge and try again. If you get jug 1 try for jug 2 if not then reforge.

Benefit: Rapid: you can unlock two potencies and reforge in less than a minute. Once you have Jug 2 unlocked within the first two potencies then you are far more likely to IW Jug 5. So you can have 10 plus attempts to get Jug 2 in time it takes most people to do one IW.
Baller Method: If you are heavy forging you don't even need item world, I got four of my latest phase to jug 5 with zero IW. Unless you are a super rich shop owner or auctioneer then this method is only good for your own equips.

yep, the only two times when i unlocked Jug was by this mean. but you make it sound like i have a shitton of credits to burn into forging (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jan 4 2016, 16:12
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 4 2016, 20:54) *

many veterans may tell you're wrong. but actually i cannot give up my rapier/waki's 82% Parry, so for now club/rapier it's not a priority (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

82 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
My shielding set has 78.4 block, maybe fully forge them can have 80% block (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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post Jan 4 2016, 16:28
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Jan 4 2016, 15:12) *

82 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
My shielding set has 78.4 block, maybe fully forge them can have 80% block (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

yep. 82.2 Parry isn't so hard to reach with the right gears and a bit of forging. maybe with a Rapier of Nimble and fully forging both weapons i may reach 85 or so, but it seems quite a waste of credits for such low update.
especially if you consider that with >50% Evade such improvements is somehow halved (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Jan 4 2016, 17:18
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Yeah sowy. Trying too many things together and made a mess in my mind.

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I used this and this. The shortsword in the main was not even forged, yet it got a smooth clear.

QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Jan 4 2016, 13:35) *

The easy way is if you are also forging the equip. For example for one equip I wasted over 200 shards trying to get to jug 5 but then used this method and got jug 5 near instantly.
Lots of people are already doing it. Basically you use forging to get to jug 1 or jug 2 before going into Item world and you will end up with jug 5 far easier.
Poverty method: Unlock the first potency using the first 5 forges to save mats and salvage and buy back the item when you run out of those to forge. (saves mats)

Fast method: forge item to unlock the first two potencies, if you get jug 1 continue otherwise reforge and try again. If you get jug 1 try for jug 2 if not then reforge.

Benefit: Rapid: you can unlock two potencies and reforge in less than a minute. Once you have Jug 2 unlocked within the first two potencies then you are far more likely to IW Jug 5. So you can have 10 plus attempts to get Jug 2 in time it takes most people to do one IW.
Baller Method: If you are heavy forging you don't even need item world, I got four of my latest phase to jug 5 with zero IW. Unless you are a super rich shop owner or auctioneer then this method is only good for your own equips.



Emm... wait... i missed something.
How do you "forge" jug? o_O
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post Jan 4 2016, 17:27
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QUOTE(Epion @ Jan 4 2016, 16:18) *

Yeah sowy. Trying too many things together and made a mess in my mind.

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I used this and this. The shortsword in the main was not even forged, yet it got a smooth clear.

uhu. well, worth a try...

QUOTE(Epion @ Jan 4 2016, 16:18) *

Emm... wait... i missed something.
How do you "forge" jug? o_O

you don't. you forge stats, and this raises PXP as well. if you forge enough, you can unlock some potencies via forging. if item is soulfused it will still gain 2x PXP
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post Jan 4 2016, 17:36
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Clear.
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