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post Jul 26 2015, 14:34
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How do you guys play so much o.O.


We have had two pretty good patches in a row... is anyone worried about 0.84 which is a rebalancing patch?

O.O tension rising.

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post Jul 26 2015, 14:39
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Just opened Crystarium IV. For Crystarium V, I'll watch the the development of the affair and result right now. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jul 26 2015, 14:46
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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ Jul 26 2015, 17:55) *

Now we can remove the babysitter script from HV, but I will miss it because I can't easily see the whole amount from gifts like the script. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Nope. The BabySitter is still required for mass Happy Pill. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(Cats Lover @ Jul 26 2015, 18:09) *

Just opened Crystarium IV. For Crystarium V, I'll watch the the development of the affair and result right now. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Let us know how good Crys-4 is. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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post Jul 26 2015, 14:56
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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ Jul 26 2015, 19:39) *

Just opened Crystarium IV. For Crystarium V, I'll watch the the development of the affair and result right now. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

don't forget to post the result here cat (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jul 26 2015, 15:01
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Jul 26 2015, 20:34) *

How do you guys play so much o.O.
We have had two pretty good patches in a row... is anyone worried about 0.84 which is a rebalancing patch?

O.O tension rising.

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a 1H nerf patch is long overdue.

power slaughter did get some nerf but 1H is still too OP.

i suspect there will some changes in the future to mitigation or imperil/PA to make rapier PA less powerful.



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post Jul 26 2015, 15:07
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 26 2015, 07:03) *

Get someone else to assume the risk for you if you wish (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Also, why Swift Strike? It's pretty bad, isn't it?

even if it isn't, one should either go for godlike speed to deal 2 hits to every mob in the time they deal one, or either stick with offensive potencies like butcher and fatality.
there's no way you'll reach high speeds without shade + waki, so with a club i suggest you to unlock fatality or butcher (depending on your tastes) first and then see what will happen


I have another club for that.
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post Jul 26 2015, 15:12
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Jul 26 2015, 15:01) *

i suspect there will some changes in the future to mitigation or imperil/PA to make rapier PA less powerful.

time to go buy a decent axe then (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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post Jul 26 2015, 15:22
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 26 2015, 20:12) *

time to go buy a decent axe then (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

I have some decent axe for preparation next balancing patch (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Jul 26 2015, 15:25
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 26 2015, 12:34) *
for a 1Her, where swift is eaten by BUR, yes (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

for a DWer it may be a nice potency. i did a check with a swift3-waki and it seemed to me that attack speed was basically additive, so if you consider an EMax waki (10% attacks speed, almost the same as LMax) and add it swift 5, it's ~20% attack bonus from a waki.
my DW build with a 7.7 waki/0 swift already has 27~30 speed, so with swift5 it will be something close to 40, which is not bad, i'd say.
Yeah, we took that into consideration too, remember? The basic problem is the same regardless of 1h/heavy or full shade/DW with waki, like when the benefits were looked at before - increased attack speed has a very minimal effect on the total turns required to finish a battle series. You take very slightly less damage due to monsters getting less action time before they die, but you need the same number of turns to kill them (and damage taken only affects clearing time when you're forced to Fullcure/Cure, which should be pretty uncommon regardless for melee). Compare to Butcher or Fatality or Overpower, which directly reduce how many turns it takes to kill monsters, as well as reducing damage taken due to fewer live monsters. They're more useful by far, for someone interested in clearing speed, which is really the only variable that matters (for most people).
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post Jul 26 2015, 15:43
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for anyone interested, there is a Legendary Amber Phase Pants of Mjolnir lv. 299 in bazaar right now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jul 26 2015, 15:45
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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ Jul 26 2015, 20:39) *

Just opened Crystarium IV. For Crystarium V, I'll watch the the development of the affair and result right now. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Yeah, the new hath perk Crystarium V increases the crystal multiplier to 10 (from the old 5). (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
To balance thing out, the crystal gain rate is reduced by 50% (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Jul 26 2015, 15:45
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QUOTE(Mecha Xanatos @ Jul 26 2015, 13:43) *

for anyone interested, there is a Legendary Amber Phase Pants of Mjolnir lv. 299 in bazaar right now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

bazaar died, no sense to check it anymore.
rip.

QUOTE(Cats Lover @ Jul 26 2015, 12:25) *

Now we can remove the babysitter script from HV, but I will miss it because I can't easily see the whole amount from gifts like the script. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

+1. probably will update it Soon™

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post Jul 26 2015, 15:54
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QUOTE(VriskaSerket @ Jul 26 2015, 19:15) *

+1. probably will update it Soon™

Oi! We still need it for Happy Pills!
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post Jul 26 2015, 16:38
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jul 26 2015, 21:22) *

I have some decent axe for preparation next balancing patch (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


next patch there are going to be changes to weapon stats such that whatever you have right now is going to be crap (again). (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Jul 26 2015, 16:48
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it appears that the monster lab feed all monsters function will feed the monsters with enough food to make its hunger zero. so you are going to waste half a food per monster.
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post Jul 26 2015, 16:59
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Jul 26 2015, 14:48) *
it appears that the monster lab feed all monsters function will feed the monsters with enough food to make its hunger zero. so you are going to waste half a food per monster.
Mentioned that in the thread, but it seemed to be ignored. Food costs almost nothing anyway so IDC.
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post Jul 26 2015, 17:00
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Jul 26 2015, 16:48) *

it appears that the monster lab feed all monsters function will feed the monsters with enough food to make its hunger zero. so you are going to waste half a food per monster.

yup, i noted it as well. being it 1 hunger or 999, it doesn't discriminate it. which does make sense afterall
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post Jul 26 2015, 17:14
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Jul 26 2015, 21:38) *

next patch there are going to be changes to weapon stats such that whatever you have right now is going to be crap (again). (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

nah , I don't think tenb will increase equip range stats again soon ( maybe ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Jul 26 2015, 17:17
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Why is there no monster named Bile Duct Growth? This should have been taken care of weeks ago.
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post Jul 26 2015, 17:27
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jul 26 2015, 23:14) *

nah , I don't think tenb will increase equip range stats again soon ( maybe ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


he will re-do how monster mitigation works thereby resulting in monsters being harder to kill.

and then in order "balance" the new monster mitigation, he will increase equip stat range (again). (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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