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post Jun 11 2015, 01:47
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QUOTE(VriskaSerket @ Jun 10 2015, 17:19) *

you are still using mag items ? O_o

Yes, that's why I said it's sad. And it's not like I'm playing low difficulties. I get lots and lots of legendaries, but they are almost all trash, never Freyr, much less Freyr with good stats. And I've gotten 0 Peerless. Ever.
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post Jun 11 2015, 06:32
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Jun 11 2015, 04:50) *

How sad is this? I'm considering upgrading from a very old Magnificent to a new Magnificent.

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Base    |    Old      |    New
AAB     |    0        |    4.16
MAB     |    4.392    |    4.93
PMI     |    3.348    |    3.06
MMI     |    4.009    |    4.19
Evade   |    5.236    |    5.26
Resist  |    0        |    6.31
EDB     |    16.04    |    16.04
Cold    |    18.952   |    0
Crushing|    0        |    2.3
AGI     |    0        |    5.83
INT     |    5.984    |    6.49
WIS     |    6.284    |    6.43


EDB and Evade are the same. The new piece has lower PMI and no Cold mitigation, but Cold isn't important and I think the loss of PMI is more than offset by the added Crushing. The new piece also has Resist+AGI+AAB and has better INT+WIS.

Seems pretty worthwhile, right? I concede that I'll never find my own Legendary or Peerless upgrades. And of course, it's one of the pieces I used my Soul Fragments on as well...


just how old your phase , hito (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Jun 11 2015, 06:44
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> 2 years
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post Jun 11 2015, 07:12
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Jun 11 2015, 11:44) *

> 2 years

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why not just buy it , hito ?

you have more than enough money to upgrade your gears (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


finally get some decent shield to upgrade my old shield (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

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post Jun 11 2015, 09:02
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I don't think I've ever gotten a double mag drop before...
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post Jun 11 2015, 10:56
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Jun 10 2015, 23:47) *

Yes, that's why I said it's sad. And it's not like I'm playing low difficulties. I get lots and lots of legendaries, but they are almost all trash, never Freyr, much less Freyr with good stats. And I've gotten 0 Peerless. Ever.

well, you cant compare ~mmax pmi and <smax pmi.
some unassigned trash from my inventory to compare:
pmax 0.81 http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=2b251ebc3c
lmax 0.81 http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=cb9c69a1b6
lmax ~0.78 http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=bb360cc319
exmax 0.81 http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=f74a8aba51

as you see, almost no difference between Ex 3.15 and L 3.57. so sad (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
also some(lots?) of cloth defence goes from agi.
probably you just playing not so much to be in mood to search upgrades.

QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jun 11 2015, 05:12) *

why not just buy it , hito ?

do that, now!

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post Jun 11 2015, 11:03
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QUOTE(Pickled Cow @ Jun 11 2015, 07:02) *

I don't think I've ever gotten a double mag drop before...
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good luck with double RE legendary .)
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post Jun 11 2015, 15:11
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Jun 10 2015, 23:47) *

Yes, that's why I said it's sad. And it's not like I'm playing low difficulties. I get lots and lots of legendaries, but they are almost all trash, never Freyr, much less Freyr with good stats. And I've gotten 0 Peerless. Ever.


Change all EDB into one, problem solved and allows cycling. Melee has 1 suffix, mage has 6. Nerf mages!
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post Jun 11 2015, 15:27
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QUOTE(skillchip @ Jun 11 2015, 21:11) *

Change all EDB into one, problem solved and allows cycling. Melee has 1 suffix, mage has 6. Nerf mages!

But chance for a power armor to roll as slaughter is much lower than 1/6. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
From my experience, Leg phase with L_max EDB is much more common than Leg power slaughter with m_max+ ADB.

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post Jun 11 2015, 15:48
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QUOTE(Colman @ Jun 11 2015, 20:27) *

But chance for a power armor to roll as slaughter is much lower than 1/6. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
From my experience, Leg phase with L_max EDB is much more common than Leg power slaughter with m_max+ ADB.

yup , I saw 2 leg slaughter with low ADB roll in leg equipment thread (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jun 11 2015, 18:33
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@hitokiri84, upgrade for you, show your "crazy rich" again.)

QUOTE(arialinnoc @ Jun 9 2015, 08:22) *

CL07 Legendary Charged Phase Pants of Freyr Level 424 (seller: djackallstar)
Current bid: 35m tokeizaka 0
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post Jun 11 2015, 18:53
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QUOTE(VriskaSerket @ Jun 11 2015, 03:56) *

well, you cant compare ~mmax pmi and <smax pmi.
some unassigned trash from my inventory to compare:
pmax 0.81 http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=2b251ebc3c
lmax 0.81 http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=cb9c69a1b6
lmax ~0.78 http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=bb360cc319
exmax 0.81 http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=f74a8aba51

as you see, almost no difference between Ex 3.15 and L 3.57. so sad (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Since when is PMI an important stat on Phase? Just take what you can get. I think you should be more concerned about Evade and Resist.

QUOTE(VriskaSerket @ Jun 11 2015, 03:56) *
probably you just playing not so much to be in mood to search upgrades.

I usually do all arenas + RE every day and sometimes an IW or Grindfest or two. Arenas + RE always on PFUDOR. Do I make a career out of playing Grindfest, like some people around here? No, but I play way more than should be required to self-find upgrades over a long period of time.

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do that, now!

Not worth it. And I've still never seen Peerless Freyr. Does anyone have any?

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@hitokiri84, upgrade for you, show your "crazy rich" again.)

I can't, because I'm not. I just spent everything to get Æsahættr. You want to subsidize my bidding? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jun 11 2015, 18:58
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Jun 11 2015, 18:53) *

Not worth it. And I've still never seen Peerless Freyr. Does anyone have any?

Found this link in the patch note:
Peerless Charged Phase Robe of Freyr

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post Jun 11 2015, 19:12
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Jun 11 2015, 16:53) *

Since when is PMI an important stat on Phase? Just take what you can get. I think you should be more concerned about Evade and Resist.

i know that all worthless trash, bought them because price was too low.

QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Jun 11 2015, 16:53) *

You want to subsidize my bidding? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

no.) just hoped for bloody bid war.
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post Jun 12 2015, 04:52
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QUOTE(Pickled Cow @ Jun 11 2015, 07:02) *

I don't think I've ever gotten a double mag drop before...
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good luck with double RE legendary .)

almost...
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post Jun 12 2015, 05:32
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Jun 12 2015, 02:53) *

Since when is PMI an important stat on Phase? Just take what you can get. I think you should be more concerned about Evade and Resist.


In general, defensive stats pretty much only matter in pfudor (and at high level, they no longer affect pfudor arena)
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post Jun 12 2015, 06:20
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Jun 12 2015, 03:32) *
In general, defensive stats pretty much only matter in pfudor (and at high level, they no longer affect pfudor arena)
Not even in grindfest? Late hellfest hits aren't that soft, at least for me when I'm playing non-1h. Or do I not count because I haven't forged enough yet? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


I've been thinking about about Frugal/Charged/Radiant/Mystic. Frugal seems pretty unimportant now due to unlimited items, at least for those with high level/Wis... it doesn't help clear speed by any significant amount, since we don't have to Tap anymore, and potion cost isn't that much, especially for elemental. Still, maybe it would be preferred for someone who isn't planning on forging.

Charged means less damage taken per player turn, but less draught regeneration per player turn, so a bit more potions are needed. Maybe one will be able to cast ~3% more between each Full-cure, though damage taken per given action time will be nearly the same. On lower difficulty where curing is pretty uncommon, it probably won't help much, right? (though, better to have it than to not have it on cotton pieces)

Radiant/Mystic: More damage, quicker kills. Less damage taken due to enemies dying sooner. These would probably be preferable over the others in nearly any situation, right? (assuming other stats are somewhat similar)

Though,
Legendary Charged Phase Pants of Freyr will go for at least 35m, and
Legendary Frugal Phase Robe of Freyr will go for at least 25m.
EDBs are amazing, though some other stats aren't. Price seems high, but I'm not sure if I'm missing something, or if it's because bidders have a ridiculous amount of funds and because they're one of the first nice-prefix Freyr of the new patch.
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post Jun 12 2015, 06:45
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jun 12 2015, 04:20) *

Not even in grindfest? Late hellfest hits aren't that soft, at least for me when I'm playing non-1h. Or do I not count because I haven't forged enough yet? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

in my glass cannon dark set i can do 800-900 rounds of pfufest, for nin- fest matter only kill speed.
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post Jun 12 2015, 15:59
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Finally get an upgrade (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) . After shrine all of my trophies. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
Still no useful drop from playing. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

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post Jun 12 2015, 17:49
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Finally get an upgrade (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) . After shrine all of my trophies. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
Still no useful drop from playing. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

using fire now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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