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post May 19 2015, 07:50
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QUOTE(Colman @ May 19 2015, 15:46) *

They scale to gears' level if they have level. The stat scales to viewer level if the equipment is Level Unassigned.

You can check my staff 1, it is at my level. Other things in my sig are Level Unassigned.


so basically, a level 1 player will see the same numbers as I do when we check your staff?
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post May 19 2015, 07:51
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ May 19 2015, 12:50) *

so basically, a level 1 player will see the same numbers as I do when we check your staff?

I see his base MDB staff is 53.04 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

how about you , demon ?
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post May 19 2015, 07:51
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ May 19 2015, 13:50) *

so basically, a level 1 player will see the same numbers as I do when we check your staff?

Yes, you can find a lot of samples in the bazaar shop.

@nobody_xxx:
Magic Damage+1047.21 (base 53.04) on my side

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post May 19 2015, 07:57
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QUOTE(Colman @ May 19 2015, 07:51) *
Magic Damage+1047.21 (base 53.04) on my side

Oh, the base is fixed? Nice..
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post May 19 2015, 07:57
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QUOTE(Colman @ May 19 2015, 12:51) *

Yes, you can find a lot of samples in the bazaar shop.

@nobody_xxx:
Magic Damage+1047.21 (base 53.04) on my side

same with me , I see your base 53.04 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


finally have funds for binding my 1H set , but I don't feel like to spend 7M just to make my gears catch up my lvl (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

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post May 19 2015, 07:59
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ May 19 2015, 14:48) *

hello , cat (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

already bind your 1H set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Hi~ (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Yep, I'll soulbind my primary set because I don't have plan to sell them anyway. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
They are my soulmates on HV from now on (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post May 19 2015, 08:00
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ May 19 2015, 15:51) *

I see his base MDB staff is 53.04 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

how about you , demon ?



QUOTE(Colman @ May 19 2015, 15:51) *

Yes, you can find a lot of samples in the bazaar shop.

@nobody_xxx:
Magic Damage+1047.21 (base 53.04) on my side


i see the same

thanks for helping (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post May 19 2015, 08:19
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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ May 19 2015, 12:59) *

Hi~ (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Yep, I'll soulbind my primary set because I don't have plan to sell them anyway. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
They are my soulmates on HV from now on (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I will bind my 1H set too after find enough soulfragment from RE (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post May 19 2015, 08:31
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QUOTE(helno @ May 19 2015, 07:17) *

Never actually believed in the propaganda and I still don't. I mean now Exq and Mags mostly drop with 2 PAB, light now drops with 1 less PAB... sure we have higher chance of drop but when they are just junk what difference does it make?

Heck now I start to even dread patches rather than look forward to them but some prefer to have change and head further into the nerfstorm than to stay in the "lesser nerf" area

what? are you telling me those aren't 'less trollish' drops? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post May 19 2015, 08:47
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ May 19 2015, 09:36) *

all my mag drop in this new patch is crap since only have 2 PAB (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Yeah, only Legendary and Peerless can have 3 PAB (Excluding Shade-Arcanist). Magnificent grade can't. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ May 19 2015, 09:45) *

I accidentally started PF TTT without my staff equipped. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

I beat it but it took 2k turns and a bunch of potions. And I only got the usual ex cotton trash for my trouble. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) *speechless*

QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ May 19 2015, 09:49) *

I think it's better to kill FSM now since noodly give better chance to get at least mag ( like tenb said in the patch thread ) and WTB price increase too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Noodly sill giving Exquisite grade. Something is not right. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

QUOTE(m118w11 @ May 19 2015, 11:07) *

According to the stats, legendaries are now ~4x as common as before and it may be much better if the rare tier is different from 2% (although the two legendaries I found since were cotton of warding). If it is as high as 20%, that would mean your are 40x more likely to get a good piece then before.

1H, 2H, and Staff doesn't have any Tier anymore. So theoretically, those common drops may include them too rather than being plain Cotton/Leather/Plate.

QUOTE(Colman @ May 19 2015, 11:08) *

In addition,
For light, you need to make sure the missing PABs is not END (25% chance?) or it is rubbish even for Peerless. Same for Shield I guess.

Yeah. I just don't understand why Light Armor got nerfed.

QUOTE(Colman @ May 19 2015, 11:08) *

I'll level up very soon.
How about you?

I'm not playing Arena for now. Only did the SGs in Normal and T&T in PFUDOR yesterday. Currently doing IW for some Staffs (For some test runs on Elemental Maging). When I'm done with the IW, I'll resume Arena as a mage.

QUOTE(Cats Lover @ May 19 2015, 11:29) *

They are my soulmates on HV from now on (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I wonder what you'll do after the next patch. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 19 2015, 12:01) *

what? are you telling me those aren't 'less trollish' drops? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

When Tenboro said "less trolish drop", I thought he would fix the "Troll Prefix, Toll Suffix" Combo. But he didn't. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Let's see what happens in the long run. This whole weeks is basically a beta testing. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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post May 19 2015, 09:07
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QUOTE(tetron @ May 18 2015, 23:47) *

Yeah, only Legendary and Peerless can have 3 PAB (Excluding Shade-Arcanist). Magnificent grade can't. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


Yes they can. I got these from DwD today: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=bee3762962

I think Snowflake should be a little biased when it comes to PAB selection, especially on higher-quality gear. PABs that are most important to the fighting style that a piece of equipment is aimed at should be favored, to avoid aberrations like cloth with only AGI and WIS or AGI and INT. It's likely that a piece of equipment with less than the maximum possible number of PABs will be thrown out anyway, but if the key PABs are there, then at least there's a chance it will be used.
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post May 19 2015, 09:19
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 19 2015, 16:31) *

what? are you telling me those aren't 'less trollish' drops? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I think the proper term to use now is the drops are now more "consistently trollish"

QUOTE(n125 @ May 19 2015, 17:07) *

Yes they can. I got these from DwD today: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=bee3762962

I think Snowflake should be a little biased when it comes to PAB selection, especially on higher-quality gear. PABs that are most important to the fighting style that a piece of equipment is aimed at should be favored, to avoid aberrations like cloth with only AGI and WIS or AGI and INT. It's likely that a piece of equipment with less than the maximum possible number of PABs will be thrown out anyway, but if the key PABs are there, then at least there's a chance it will be used.

Overall the trend I am seeing now is mag level equips/armors and below consistently have -1 PAB vs pre-patch scenario. There are some exceptions too of course and those are Legendary light armors who also have -1PAB
What I have seen so far: -
1) Light/Shade (except Arcanist Shade) armors from legendary and below consistently only has 3 PABs (down from 4PAB)
2) Cloth/Phase armors from mag and below consistently only has 2 PABs (down from 3 PABs)
3) Didn't bother checking heavy/power yet but I assume it will be the same as cloth/phase.
4) Weapons seem to fluctuate between 2-3 PABs

Of course it is still too early to tell if they are the new max values or we just got unlucky (or trolled)

So please someone enlighten me how is this patch a buff again???

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post May 19 2015, 09:49
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QUOTE(n125 @ May 19 2015, 12:37) *

Yes they can. I got these from DwD today: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=bee3762962

That's something new. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
But I think it's now much much harder to roll full PAB. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

QUOTE(helno @ May 19 2015, 12:49) *

So please someone enlighten me how is this patch a buff again???

FYI, this patch wasn't supposed to be about Buffs. It was intended to nerf the "Get upgrades from market" syndrome all along. But to do that, Tenboro killed the entire market, which was not expected.

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post May 19 2015, 11:02
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ May 19 2015, 15:19) *

I will bind my 1H set too after find enough soulfragment from RE (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Good. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
We don't know when 10B will raise the soul fragment's cost again. I think you'd better soulbind them fast ASAP.

QUOTE(tetron @ May 19 2015, 15:47) *

I wonder what you'll do after the next patch. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I think it would be always the same, getting better equips or noticeable collections which may be meaningful only to me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
Before the patch there were even some interests watching auctions, but now... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post May 19 2015, 11:20
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QUOTE(helno @ May 19 2015, 09:19) *

I think the proper term to use now is the drops are now more "consistently trollish"

which makes me wonder who is the biggest troll, snowflake, the whole game or tenboro himself (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(Cats Lover @ May 19 2015, 11:02) *

We don't know when 10B will raise the soul fragment's cost again.

is it really planned? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post May 19 2015, 11:24
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 19 2015, 18:20) *

is it really planned? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Well, he already said that using 'temporarily' and 'reevaluate this at some point'.
But dunno when. Maybe... soon™? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
QUOTE(Tenboro @ May 18 2015, 01:28) *

- Temporarily reduced the soul fusion base cost to 50 to get people started. I'm going to reevaluate this at some point.

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post May 19 2015, 11:30
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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ May 19 2015, 11:24) *

Well, he already said that using 'temporarily' and 'reevaluate this at some point'.
But dunno when. Maybe... soon™? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

dang. i won't surely be able to bind more than 2 gears before 0.83 (aka '1H nerf' patch, afaik) comes. i guess my 1H set is pretty doomed (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post May 19 2015, 11:42
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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ May 19 2015, 14:32) *

I think it would be always the same, getting better equips or noticeable collections which may be meaningful only to me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I'm talking about the next "1H Nerf" scenario. For example, if the next patch makes "Only 1 attack can be Blocked per Turn", will you still play as 1H+Power Slaughter? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(Cats Lover @ May 19 2015, 14:32) *

Before the patch there were even some interests watching auctions, but now... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Yeah. Equipment Auctions were fun. Material Auction sounds boring. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 19 2015, 15:00) *

dang. i won't surely be able to bind more than 2 gears before 0.83 (aka '1H nerf' patch, afaik) comes. i guess my 1H set is pretty doomed (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

If I play enough, I can bind a full Elec Mage set in nearly 1 month. And that's what my aim is right now. +_+
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post May 19 2015, 11:55
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QUOTE(tetron @ May 19 2015, 18:42) *

I'm talking about the next "1H Nerf" scenario. For example, if the next patch makes "Only 1 attack can be Blocked per Turn", will you still play as 1H+Power Slaughter? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Well... maybe I'll use 1H forever. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
As I'm always playing a fighter with 1-handed weapon and shield on almost RPGs, because I like the style, regardless of the style is superb or not.
Fortunately 1H Power style rules amonst melee at least on HV since 0.76, so I have already played it pleasantly till now.
So I will gladly accept the next patch how badly it got debuffed or not. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post May 19 2015, 12:06
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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ May 19 2015, 15:25) *

Well... maybe I'll use 1H forever. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
As I'm always playing a fighter with 1-handed weapon and shield on almost RPGs, because I like the style, regardless of the style is superb or not.
Fortunately 1H Power style rules amonst melee at least on HV since 0.76, so I have already played it pleasantly till now.
So I will gladly accept the next patch how badly it got debuffed or not. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Hat's off to you. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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