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post May 18 2015, 10:30
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QUOTE(tetron @ May 18 2015, 10:02) *

Nope. I was primarily a Warding user. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

it was a bit of humour. i don't really think there are more than 3-4 leg power of slaughter sets around (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


@hito: quote doesn't work, but many thanks, didn't see it

QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ May 18 2015, 10:21) *

Well, I'm an old scavenger, I have a lot of experience. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

old fox, while we're at it, is there a way to discern old-style suffixless from new ones? just found a couple of axes of ox on bazaar and thought about this...

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post May 18 2015, 10:45
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 18 2015, 15:53) *

mag katalox for 10k? was katalox prices reduced?

Katalox lost its value now since dark mage cannot boost the healing with it.
I can use my willow staff for the dark set.
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post May 18 2015, 10:50
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 18 2015, 11:30) *
old fox, while we're at it, is there a way to discern old-style suffixless from new ones? just found a couple of axes of ox on bazaar and thought about this...

By its EID, obviously. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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post May 18 2015, 10:55
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ May 18 2015, 13:33) *

Must be suck if your set is forged, warding get damage boost this patch.

Nope. My set wasn't forged. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

QUOTE(qw3rty67 @ May 18 2015, 13:45) *

All this godly (compared to my gear) stuff rotting in the bazaar that's above my level.
Fuck this patch.

Meanwhile, Tenboro: "Just as planned!" (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

QUOTE(Dead-ed @ May 18 2015, 13:47) *

i can't find proper word.
You said that this patch is 1h nerf, equipments from the shrine don't get level-bounded, & next patch is soul-bound system.

You really are confused. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
Before this patch, I said that this patch (Patch 0.82) is going to introduce the soul-bound system. I also said that equipments generated from Shrine won't be level bound, because that's what Tenboro had initially told us. I also said that the patch after the soul-bound system (That is, patch 0.83) will balance the OPness of 1H. Again, this was also declared before by Tenboro himself.

BTW, how many Soul Fragments did you guys earn as a drop? I'm still at ZERO! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post May 18 2015, 11:13
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QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ May 18 2015, 10:50) *

By its EID, obviously. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

alright. i'll keep looking by myself (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post May 18 2015, 11:42
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holy mage, clearing T&T in 781 turns post-patch vs 700 turns post patch, cleared with tapping to have a positive potion gains.

Hellfest 5911 post-patch vs 5400 pre-patch.

Im feeling depressed that I need to tap in arena now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

What's you elem mage's clear time and method?

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post May 18 2015, 14:10
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ May 18 2015, 02:42) *

What's you elem mage's clear time and method?

Did you try dark mage?
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post May 18 2015, 14:40
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ May 18 2015, 22:10) *

Did you try dark mage?



I don't have dark gear, though I reckon they will have similar speed as holy. Im more interested in elem, since I already have unforged wind set.
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post May 18 2015, 15:03
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can anybody with 1H confirm this ???

do you feel that need more turns to kill enemy now compare to previous patch (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

I feel my OFC and skill damage get nerf after patch even though my ADB is better (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

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post May 18 2015, 15:28
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ May 18 2015, 15:03) *

can anybody with 1H confirm this ???

do you feel that need more turns to kill enemy now compare to previous patch (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

I feel my OFC and skill damage get nerf after patch even though my ADB is better (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Not that, I think it's the other way for me. But the parry-rolling (and following counters) are horrendous @PFUDOR, resulting in more turns too...
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post May 18 2015, 15:59
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QUOTE(boulay @ May 18 2015, 20:28) *

Not that, I think it's the other way for me. But the parry-rolling (and following counters) are horrendous @PFUDOR, resulting in more turns too...

I'm rarely reach 1M+ damage with vital strike crit hit now to SGs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

usually it hit them around 900~1100k damage ( 800k is the lowest ) when crit hit in previous patch , now the lowest damage whe vital strike crit hit only reach 500k (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


btw , credits gain rate from arena get nerf too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

only get 24k from PFU DwD ( usually surpass 30k ) and 9k from TT ( usually 12k~13k )

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post May 18 2015, 16:00
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ May 18 2015, 09:03) *
can anybody with 1H confirm this ???
do you feel that need more turns to kill enemy now compare to previous patch (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
I feel my OFC and skill damage get nerf after patch even though my ADB is better (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

No. I am a 1H Plate of Protection player (using the gear in my signature) but I do not have OFC. I keep an Excel spreadsheet with my Arena clear information, such as number of turns to clear, clear time, experience per round, and other parameters that I find interesting/useful. I only run Dreamfall through The Trio and the Tree because those 7 Arenas give the best experience per round per hour and consumes 21.6 Stamina while above 79 Stamina. I am experiencing no significant change in any parameter across all Arenas except for To Kill A God, Eve of Death, and The Trio and the Tree. Before patch 0.82, I was doing Arenas on IWBTH and I needed to Focus to regain mana for the first 10-20 rounds of those 3 Arenas so that I wouldn't run out of mana at the end. Now that I don't need to Focus, I am not only clearing those Arenas 10%-30% faster but also doing so on PFUDOR. I use the following Spell Spam conditional:
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$HP>50;$Protection;$Hastened;$SparkofLife;$Regen;Greater Mana Potion;Attack
Yes, a Greater Mana Potion every 50 turns is enough to keep my mana topped off at all times.

TL;DR - 1H Plate of Protection got buffed. No clue about 1H Plate of Slaughter or Protection/Slaughter hybrid.
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post May 18 2015, 16:07
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QUOTE(CronoBoA @ May 18 2015, 21:00) *

No. I am a 1H Plate of Protection player (using the gear in my signature) but I do not have OFC. I keep an Excel spreadsheet with my Arena clear information, such as number of turns to clear, clear time, experience per round, and other parameters that I find interesting/useful. I only run Dreamfall through The Trio and the Tree because those 7 Arenas give the best experience per round per hour and consumes 21.6 Stamina while above 79 Stamina. I am experiencing no significant change in any parameter across all Arenas except for To Kill A God, Eve of Death, and The Trio and the Tree. Before patch 0.82, I was doing Arenas on IWBTH and I needed to Focus to regain mana for the first 10-20 rounds of those 3 Arenas so that I wouldn't run out of mana at the end. Now that I don't need to Focus, I am not only clearing those Arenas 10%-30% faster but also doing so on PFUDOR. I use the following Spell Spam conditional:
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$HP>50;$Protection;$Hastened;$SparkofLife;$Regen;Greater Mana Potion;Attack
Yes, a Greater Mana Potion every 50 turns is enough to keep my mana topped off at all times.

TL;DR - 1H Plate of Protection got buffed. No clue about 1H Plate of Slaughter or Protection/Slaughter hybrid.

I feel my damage get nerf somehow (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

take more turns to finish arenas now in PFU (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post May 18 2015, 16:07
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Any kind of melee got buffed because of the new potion mechanics. You are no longer bound by mana costs and you can just keep spamming mana pots. This not only means people can finish arena easier, but people can now easily finish grindfests. Spirit costs usually get huge in the last ~200 rounds of grindfest, but that should no longer be a factor.

In fact you should be able to clear a bit faster because you don't need to full featherweight for mana conservation in grindfests anymore, which means less evade. Less evade for 1H means more reliable counters and thus a higher clear speed.
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post May 18 2015, 16:37
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QUOTE(erwtsnert @ May 18 2015, 07:07) *

you can just keep spamming mana pots.

Uh, 50 turn cooldown?
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post May 18 2015, 16:48
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ May 18 2015, 16:37) *

Uh, 50 turn cooldown?


Spam with cooldown is still spam.
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post May 18 2015, 16:56
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I find I have 3 mana pots and 22 mana draughts. Is the drop ratio 1:7 skewed... Or is there something I'm missing? :S
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post May 18 2015, 17:02
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QUOTE(needaname @ May 18 2015, 16:56) *

I find I have 3 mana pots and 22 mana draughts. Is the drop ratio 1:7 skewed... Or is there something I'm missing? :S


I have 80 mana draught and 18 mana potion. Do the math yourself.
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post May 18 2015, 17:02
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QUOTE(needaname @ May 18 2015, 22:56) *

I find I have 3 mana pots and 22 mana draughts. Is the drop ratio 1:7 skewed... Or is there something I'm missing? :S

The announced ratio is 2:8. Not sure does the training affect it.
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post May 18 2015, 17:02
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ May 18 2015, 16:37) *

Uh, 50 turn cooldown?


Using as soon as it is off cooldown, that is.

QUOTE(needaname @ May 18 2015, 16:56) *

I find I have 3 mana pots and 22 mana draughts. Is the drop ratio 1:7 skewed... Or is there something I'm missing? :S


Sample size is a bit small, it seems to be working fine for larger numbers.
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